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  • 12-07-2007, 08:40 AM
    ClairvoyantDisease
    experience needed
    how much experience do you think is needed before getting an anaconda? I don't think I'll get one for a long time I just wanted to know.
  • 12-07-2007, 10:09 AM
    cutler07
    Re: experience needed
    is this your 1st snake?

    if so i dont recomend it.

    they do get over 10+ ft.

    and yellow condas get 7-1o FT.

    they are need for expreiced owners. they are a pain in the but when they are babies cuz they dont like to eat.

    and do you know anything about condas?
  • 12-07-2007, 10:09 AM
    cutler07
    Re: experience needed
    but ask anything else cuz ik ben can help me out if im wrong
  • 12-07-2007, 10:51 AM
    PythonWallace
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cutler07 View Post
    is this your 1st snake?

    if so i dont recomend it.

    they do get over 10+ ft.

    and yellow condas get 7-1o FT.

    they are need for expreiced owners. they are a pain in the but when they are babies cuz they dont like to eat.

    and do you know anything about condas?

    7-10 feet? Try 25 feet.
  • 12-07-2007, 11:25 AM
    jdmls88
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    7-10 feet? Try 25 feet.

    he said yellow anacondas:D
  • 12-07-2007, 11:28 AM
    cutler07
    Re: experience needed
    green anacondas get up to 10+ ft in captivity

    and YELLOW ANACONDAS get up to 7-10 ft in captivity.
  • 12-07-2007, 11:30 AM
    cutler07
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    7-10 feet? Try 25 feet.

    and no captive breed and raised anaconda get 25 feet. sry but that is really hard to get

    and msot condas in captive homes usally get 16-20+ for males and females sometimes 16-22 ft.
  • 12-07-2007, 12:15 PM
    Shelby
    Re: experience needed
    Depends on the kind of conda you want. As was said yellows stay relatively small.. however I knew one female that was 12' and about 70+ lbs.

    My male is around 7' or so. I have three yellows.. they all bite. :)

    Greens get a lot bigger. Males 8-10' females.. watch out. Greens are the heaviest snake species in the world.

    My male is only around 4-5' now.. he's pretty well behaved, but he has bitten too. It's a conda thing. :)
  • 12-07-2007, 03:03 PM
    cutler07
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby View Post

    My male is around 7' or so. I have three yellows.. they all bite. :)

    Greens get a lot bigger. Males 8-10' females.. watch out. Greens are the heaviest snake species in the world.

    My male is only around 4-5' now.. he's pretty well behaved, but he has bitten too. It's a conda thing. :)

    ok well ur condas bite cuz u dont handle them much mine is the nicest thing u want. he will never bite you. and condas are one of the most heaviest snakes. next to reticulated pythons.

    and green males condas get 16-20 ft and green conda females get 16-22FT.

    and yellow condas stay not as big as agreen conda they stay aroudn 7-10 ft

    but get around a lil heavy weight
  • 12-07-2007, 06:26 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    cutler is totaly correct lol

    but you should be exp. with big snakes b4 u buy one
  • 12-07-2007, 07:45 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cutler07 View Post
    ok well ur condas bite cuz u dont handle them much mine is the nicest thing u want. he will never bite you. and condas are one of the most heaviest snakes. next to reticulated pythons.

    and green males condas get 16-20 ft and green conda females get 16-22FT.

    and yellow condas stay not as big as agreen conda they stay aroudn 7-10 ft

    but get around a lil heavy weight

    Shelby knows more than you will ever know. You should listen to her.

    Oh wait your banned...good job mods!!

    :D

    Mike
  • 12-08-2007, 12:20 AM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    only reason y i am banned on there other one is cuz i had 2 accounts.

    and i bet ik more then her.

    i dont even think she owns one any ways.

    most anacondas are very docile. only way they will bite is if there unhappy or u dont handle them as much.
  • 12-08-2007, 12:32 AM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    only reason y i am banned on there other one is cuz i had 2 accounts.

    and i bet ik more then her.

    i dont even think she owns one any ways.

    most anacondas are very docile. only way they will bite is if there unhappy or u dont handle them as much.

    Please don't make assumptions about people if you don't know them. April owns one of the most diverse collections on this forum. She is an incredibly experienced keeper, and anyone would be wiser for listening to her.

    Perhaps your Anaconda doesn't bite. I'm happy for you. But that doesn't mean she's doing something wrong because hers do. It just means you have a very docile specimen... while April's are a little more... frisky.

    Snakes are different, just like people. To accuse April of lying just because you feel your methods are better than hers is just... not cool. :colbert:
  • 12-08-2007, 01:27 AM
    Reediculous
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    and i bet ik more then her.

    i dont even think she owns one any ways.

    i agree you don't think!
  • 12-08-2007, 01:30 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    only reason y i am banned on there other one is cuz i had 2 accounts.

    and i bet ik more then her.

    i dont even think she owns one any ways.

    most anacondas are very docile. only way they will bite is if there unhappy or u dont handle them as much.


    wow you sure do act 16. there is 14 year old kids on this site that are more respectful than you
  • 12-08-2007, 01:40 AM
    8b8ll
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    only reason y i am banned on there other one is cuz i had 2 accounts.

    and i bet ik more then her.

    i dont even think she owns one any ways.

    most anacondas are very docile. only way they will bite is if there unhappy or u dont handle them as much.


    Hahaha!

    3 ball pythons
    1 green anaconda
    1 anasestine
    1 retic
    1 carpet python
    2 nicaragua Boas
    2 burmese pythons
    3 king snakes
    and 1 corn snake

    Whats an anasestine?? LOL!

    :colbert:


    Mike
  • 12-08-2007, 02:46 AM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    it doesnt say anasestine

    i dont own w/e that is

    well my methods must work better over aprils if mine dont bite. so yea

    and im 17 not 16

    and if u got a prob. deal wit it

    im going to say my way is better, idc wat you guys say. thats how i think about it. i think i do better then some of these "EXPREIENCED" people.

    but thats my choice of thinking
  • 12-08-2007, 02:52 AM
    Gooseman
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer
    it doesnt say anasestine

    i dont own w/e that is

    well my methods must work better over aprils if mine dont bite. so yea

    and im 17 not 16

    straight from your public profile....

    Quote:


    Date of Birth:
    March 22, 1991
    Age:
    16
    Location:
    Logan,Ohio
    Interests:
    football, counter strike, MY SNAKES
    Occupation:
    STUDENT
    My Collection:
    3 ball pythons
    1 green anaconda
    1 anasestine
    1 retic
    1 carpet python
    2 nicaragua Boas
    2 burmese pythons
    3 king snakes
    and 1 corn snake

  • 12-08-2007, 03:12 AM
    Gooseman
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    and if u got a prob. deal wit it

    im going to say my way is better, idc wat you guys say. thats how i think about it. i think i do better then some of these "EXPREIENCED" people.

    but thats my choice of thinking

    No problems here... I find it amusing. Even if by impossible odds you actually are more "experienced" than April... then you lost all credibility by the way you conducted yourself in this thread. As you called out a highly respected/valued member let alone moderator and called her opinion worthless and accused her of claiming to own animals which arn't in her possession (which you seem to be guilty of yourself) as well as attempted to mis-represent yourself and then cover the tracks after being called out (hence your recent profile update). Sorry if that's just MY way of thinking... I guess your entitled to your way just as much as I'm entitled to mine.
  • 12-08-2007, 03:30 AM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    thats your thought. i have my thoughts. april has hers.w e all have diffrent thoughts.
  • 12-08-2007, 03:30 AM
    Nicole Truesdell
    Re: experience needed
    No offence but I'm turning 13 in 2 weeks and I've only looked at a couple green anacondas and I could say a little more "experianced" stuff then you could...

    Most green anacondas are aggressive, yeah, you can tame them down a bit, but that doesn't gaurantee that its going to be a nice cute snake for you.
    The majority of green anacondas do bite and are quite aggressive.

    My best guess would be to own A jungle carpet python for a start and then work on a blood python even then that's not even close compared to what a green anaconda is going to be like.
    Even if you were to get a anaconda, as said start with a male, they're generally smaller then females and that would be a start.
  • 12-08-2007, 03:33 AM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    please tell me what you know, and ben or paril or goose will interfer if its true.



    besides there size... where they from (originated)? how do you house them? whats there temerpmant?

    iwould like to see if you know the basics.
  • 12-08-2007, 03:44 AM
    Nicole Truesdell
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    please tell me what you know, and ben or paril or goose will interfer if its true.



    besides there size... where they from (originated)? how do you house them? whats there temerpmant?

    iwould like to see if you know the basics.

    For one, this isn't a contest on who knows how much about green anacondas...

    The guy was asking a simple question and I responded.

    If your going to challange me to a little game of "I know more then you" go right ahead, because I'm not going to deny that I don't know "all that" about anacondas, because I don't...
  • 12-08-2007, 10:14 AM
    Reediculous
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    please tell me what you know, and ben or paril or goose will interfer if its true.



    besides there size... where they from (originated)? how do you house them? whats there temerpmant?

    iwould like to see if you know the basics.


    :rofl: those are your step daddy's snakes in your momma's basement, you can't afford or handle any of those snakes by yourself, just stop it! grow up, and listen instead of being a know it all!
  • 12-08-2007, 10:37 AM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    thats your thought. i have my thoughts. april has hers.w e all have diffrent thoughts.

    More drops of wisdom from the peanut gallery.

    But when you accuse a very knowledgable and respected member of the forum to out-right lying, you better be able to back it up. It seems to me that anyone with a differing opinion than yours is just wrong. Even Nicole... she was just trying to offer some insight based on her knowledge and you wanted to challenge her??? Why? Does it make you feel like more of a man? Because it only makes you look like a child.

    Indeed, we all have the right to our thoughts and opinions... but you are being disrespectful to others. And that is totally uncalled for. Lighten up, dude.
  • 12-08-2007, 11:15 AM
    Brimstone111888
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    please tell me what you know, and ben or paril or goose will interfer if its true.



    besides there size... where they from (originated)? how do you house them? whats there temerpmant?

    iwould like to see if you know the basics.

    Judging by this picture in your profile:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Picture019.jpg

    I would have to say, shut up or have a mod bad this name too. You are useless to the community here. Come back when you don't live with mommy anymore.
  • 12-08-2007, 12:36 PM
    Shelby
    Re: experience needed
    My oh my what did I miss? lol

    You're right, I don't handle my anacondas very much. Usually just when I need to clean their cage. I don't like to stress them out. They're high strung animals.

    That said, MOST times when I pick them up, they don't bite, but all of them will at times, usually with little to no warning. In my experience, this is common for anacondas. Never let your guard down with them.

    You can not believe that I own them if you wish, I don't really care. There's pictures of all of them in my gallery though. ;)
  • 12-08-2007, 01:04 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    and we do have a new cage and a better one for the conda.

    oh i said i dont think u own any.

    but all my snakes are fine. ill give u updates on them if u want me to.

    and shelby i didnt mean to judge against wat i said. i just was tellin my mind off.

    also the stick in the tanks is not in there any more.
  • 12-08-2007, 01:06 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby View Post
    My oh my what did I miss? lol

    trust me, not much!
  • 12-08-2007, 01:11 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    and we do have a new cage and a better one for the conda.


    so you purchased the snake without the proper caging requirements, but yet your giving advice, and challenging someone else about husbandry methods. I'll let the mods handle you, I'm done posting about you, it's obvious, you here to cause trouble, and not help in anyway!

    I just hope anyone that really needs advice, won't take yours!
  • 12-08-2007, 01:12 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    im not saying i know everythig about them. i just know alot about them.

    also i like to speak my mind. and im sry if im mean and people take it offensive, but i say wat i want to get off.

    and im done with this topic. ima go help some other people who need it
  • 12-08-2007, 01:18 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    im not saying i know everythig about them. i just know alot about them.

    also i like to speak my mind. and im sry if im mean and people take it offensive, but i say wat i want to get off.

    and im done with this topic. ima go help some other people who need it

    i said i was done........then you PM me, with more lies!

    Plummer wrote this to me in a PM in response to me telling him the snakes he has are not his, and that they are his mothers boyfriends!



    "and no the snakes are nto his

    he has 11 and i have 5

    mine

    conda, 2 bp, corn snake, redtail boa

    and i feed them... i buy my food off of rodent pro with my own money where i get form my job".


    but his Sig says!

    1.1 Burmese Python (one albino)
    0.1 Reticulated Python (wild type)
    3.0 Ball Python (normal type)
    1.0 Green Anaconda
    0.0.1 Nelson Milk Snake
    2.0 King snakes
    1.1 Nicaragua Boas
    1.1 Red Tail Boas
    1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
    0.0.1 Corn Snake


    Now I'm done, I'm not going to risk crossing the line in this thread, i unlike you don't want to cause trouble
  • 12-08-2007, 01:20 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    thats wat my moms bf and mine collection are.

    he goes on this to
  • 12-08-2007, 01:21 PM
    Shelby
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    oh i said i dont think u own any.

    I'm just curious what would make you think I'd lie about owning the snakes?
  • 12-08-2007, 02:12 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: experience needed
    First of chief the snake posted in the picture looks like a retic. and not an anaconda.

    I don't have an issue with the stick really but the stick combined with the exposed lights is just asking for trouble.

    Hows your anastine? LOL:rofl:


    Mike
  • 12-08-2007, 02:46 PM
    Gooseman
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    it doesnt say anasestine

    i dont own w/e that is

    Thats funny... you don't even seem to know what your step dad has.

    straight from your gallery...
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...e017_thumb.jpg

    that looks like a baby amethystine/scrub python to me. I can sorta understand misspelling it if you were looking to get one, but already owning one and still so grossly misspelling it? but then claiming you don't even have it at all... I guess you must take excellent care of the animals since feeding them once a week isnt enough to even know whats in your care.
  • 12-08-2007, 02:53 PM
    juddb
    Re: experience needed
    If you take a look at this guys gallery, i dont think anyone would seriously take advice from him. Looks like horrible husbandry to me. :colbert:
  • 12-08-2007, 05:32 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juddb View Post
    If you take a look at this guys gallery, i dont think anyone would seriously take advice from him. Looks like horrible husbandry to me. :colbert:

    WOW your right.

    I just looked in his gallery at "his" snakes. Those burms need to be moved to bigger enclosures ASAP, look at the albinos cage.

    I don't think I've seen a dirtier cage. Those are tiny tiny cages for a burm, they look to be aquariums.

    :gj:


    Mike
  • 12-08-2007, 06:02 PM
    Nicole Truesdell
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    im not saying i know everythig about them. i just know alot about them.

    I don't think you know the correct information to say the least. :rolleyes:
    Now the question is do YOU even know what size of a cage a burm should be living in when full grown?
    I definately wouldn't think it :rolleyes:.
  • 12-08-2007, 06:12 PM
    rabernet
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by plummer View Post
    he goes on this to

    He goes on this too? Uses your login and username?
  • 12-08-2007, 06:25 PM
    Argentra
    Re: experience needed
    All I'll say here is: Oy. Some people only own snakes so they can say they have them and know about them, to sound big. I'm not saying for sure that this guy is one of those, but the evidence is certainly there...
  • 12-08-2007, 08:15 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    yea he uses my username and password. he usally ison in teh morning at late at night
  • 12-08-2007, 08:25 PM
    bonheki
    Re: experience needed
    ok people say things out of the experience they have like size just cuz some one says they grow 10 ft doesnt mean they will they can grow 8 or even 12 soo it all depends on genetics,food,and habbitats i would say you need at least 2 snakes before getting one orat least one snake and hands on experince with other snakes yellow condas can get from 7-10 ft males usually get like 7 and 8 ft and some 9 females allways are bigger soo they will grow 8, 9 and usually 10 ft and some yellows get 11 and 12 ft
    now green condas usually get 15ft and bigger i would expect at least a 18 ft snake they can also get 25 ft but usually that doesnt happen to green condas in captivity soo like i said before depends on genetics,food,and habbitat soo i would recomend a yellow conda or any other snake you want if you have the time,money now lets say you got the yellow conda and its fully grown and ur up to a green conda I SAY GO FOR IT! BUT YOU need money and time cuz they bigger they are the more they need usually when any snake get around 10 ft it cost alot more cuz of food they eat bigger things
    so i say buy a yellow if ya want then if ya want get the green in the future theirs no harm in haveing big snakes just need some one to help you carry a snake that is 15 ft long right soo i hope this helped
  • 12-08-2007, 11:08 PM
    Nicole Truesdell
    Re: experience needed
    Quote:

    genetics,food,and habbitat
    I read that a little bit fast to be honest so I could've read it wrong, but when you say habitat do you mean if you keep a 2 foot burm in a 20 gallon its never going to grow bigger then 2 feet?
  • 12-08-2007, 11:35 PM
    Argentra
    Re: experience needed
    Correct me if I'm wrong, of course...but I think the only thing that could determine LENGTH on a 'conda would be genetics and chance. Food would only determine weight: a snake that's underfed will still grow longer, but it will be malnourished, really skinny, and probably have skeletal problems.
    Habitat...that certainly has no effect on the snake except to stress it out or give it diseases. Length and weight are in no way dependent on habitat size or type.

    Ok, end of rant. Like I said, correct anything I was off on since I don't know a lot about the really big snakes.
  • 12-08-2007, 11:49 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: experience needed
    I think underfeeding any animal can stunt growth. Just not effectively. Sickness and stress are also factors, but I dont see how the habitat will keep an animal from growing to it's full potential. I hope that sounded correct... :P
  • 12-08-2007, 11:54 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    you should always feed it on a weekly basis
  • 12-09-2007, 12:38 AM
    Shelby
    Re: experience needed
    I think genetics is the biggest deciding factor in ultimate size.. feedling less will slow growth certainly.. but you don't want to starve a snake just to keep it small.

    Male green anacondas usually only get 8-10' in length. There are exceptions, but there is a big difference in size between the sexes.
  • 12-09-2007, 06:08 PM
    plummer
    Re: experience needed
    females are usaully bigger then males
  • 12-09-2007, 11:09 PM
    Ben_Renick
    Re: experience needed
    Because I can't reply and see the entire thread, I can't really respond to everything, but as far as experience goes... Really, what is needed to take care of a yellow is basic husbandry, time, and appreciation for the snake. I can say it's MUCH better to have experience working with slightly more aggressive, bulky, and medium size constrictiors though.

    I keep mine with a temperature range with a basking of 90-92 F, background of 82-84 F, humidity around 60%. I use a paper towel substrate and basic drinking dish. Typically males average around 6'-8'+, females 10'-12'+.

    Some of them can be nippy, but if you can find a quality captive bred neonate and work with it, they do tend to tame down fairly well. Having an aggressive Anaconda does NOT mean you are doing anything wrong though, they definently aren't puppies.

    I hope that helps!

    Sorry, I'm not sure if I should go back and give opinions on everything else, I'd write a book. :8:
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