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Shedding and Humidity

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  • 12-05-2007, 02:49 PM
    kira1123
    Shedding and Humidity
    I'm a new owner of a baby ball python and I have a couple of questions and any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. Before I got her I did a lot of research on my own, but there is still a lot of things I would like to know.

    First off, I was wondering how to raise the humidity in my tank. She is currently in a 10g tank with a secured screen lid. She has two hide boxes, one on the warm side of the tank under a heat lamp and the other is on the cool side. I also have a UTH that is used at night when the heat lamp is off. I have a 2 Flukers thermometers, one on each side of the tank and I also have a Flukers Hygrometer. Her tank normally reads 40%-50% during the day when the Heat Lamp is on and it gets anywhere from 60-70% at night when its off. Even when the heat lamp is off during the day the humidity level doesn't reach the 60-70% mark.

    Currently she is shedding, but she's shedding in pieces. Her head has completely shed, the eyecaps are gone, but as for the rest of the body it's uneven. She has only shed to the back of her head on top and on her belly it has gone about an inch farther than the top. I can see shed skin all over her tank and currently she is hiding in her hide box on the cool side of the tank. When should I try to help her finish her shed?
  • 12-05-2007, 03:13 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    First off do you have the heat pad & heat light connected to a thermostat? If so are they connected to separate thermostats? The belly heat is more important than the heat from the light and should be on all the time between 90-93. A heat light should only be used if you need help getting the ambient temps up. If you do need a heat light get a ceramic heat emitter... As youve noticed the heat lights kill your humidity... A CHE works very well for providing heat w/o killing humidity too bad. Again all heat sources need to be connected to thermostats... To be honest your best bet is to switch to a plastic rubbermaid tub. Youll have no problems with humidity and the heat pad on the bottom is usually good enough if the room the tubs kept in isnt too cold...

    As far as helping with the shed... You can go with the damp warm pillow case method or wet wash cloth snake through the hands trick haha... Check out some previous threads and youll see theres much information on your situation. Welcome to BP.net and good luck with the new guy!
  • 12-05-2007, 03:20 PM
    pitbullNpythons
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Eventually you'll want a tub. Soooooooo much easier to control their environment. Not as cool for us to look at them in, but whats more important, their health/happiness, or ours?

    If my snakes ever have problems shedding (which happens rarely since i put them in tubs.) I usually just fill the bathtub with an inch or two of warm water and let them "bathe" in it for about 15 minutes. Then they have no problem removing the excess on their various rough rocks and half logs ;)
  • 12-05-2007, 03:29 PM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Just change your water dish to one with a bigger surface area for more evaporation. Right underneath the heat lamp or above the heat pad depending on what your heat source is...:gj: Good luck.
  • 12-05-2007, 03:31 PM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Oops i forgot about the shedding part. I suggest you take a pillow case, dampin it with warm water and let him sit in it for about an hour and the stuck shed should come right off.
  • 12-05-2007, 03:38 PM
    kira1123
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Thanks for the help, What is y'alls definition for warm? I know my definition for warm is completely different than my g/f's
  • 12-05-2007, 04:07 PM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kira1123 View Post
    Thanks for the help, What is y'alls definition for warm? I know my definition for warm is completely different than my g/f's

    Luke warm or tepid i guess, No boiling water:colbert:
    Also seriouly give the pillow case method a shot, no real need to let him soak in water at all.
  • 12-05-2007, 04:23 PM
    kira1123
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Won't an UTH eventually melt through the rubber tub if its on all the time?
  • 12-05-2007, 04:27 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    No it wont melt through if kept between 90-95... thats why you need a thermostat... if you just plug it in the wall and leave it on... some can get up to 120 degrees and burn your snake... You need a thermostat to keep it where it needs to be... It should be 78-83 on the cool side and 90-95 on the hot side.
  • 12-05-2007, 04:43 PM
    kira1123
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    ok, thanks. What kind of thermostat would you recommend?
  • 12-05-2007, 05:10 PM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Helix:gj: You can order one from rich at reptile basics....
  • 12-05-2007, 09:15 PM
    kira1123
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Are there any other thermostats you would recommend? The ones listed on the care sheet are way out of my price range at the moment.
  • 12-05-2007, 09:26 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    the reptistat500 is prolly the cheapest one that will do the job for now... Its not the greatest as it has like a 5-7 degree swing between when it turns off and back on but itll do the trick. Should be able to find one anywhere between 20-40$.
  • 12-06-2007, 01:34 AM
    kira1123
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    thanks everyone for all your help. I did the bath and towel trick and her shed is finished :) I'll post some picture soon
  • 12-06-2007, 08:30 AM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    My whole thing is why by a cheap unreliable tstat when you can spend another 20 or so and get at least a johnson or ranco control, just sayin why skimp on the safety of your snakes.
  • 12-06-2007, 08:38 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    I dont see why everyone has a problem with the repti500 thermos? Yea theyre not the best but I still use 2 of them and theyve been workin just fine for over a yr for me. It keeps the temps between 88-95 just fine so whats everyones beef with them? Is it not better than nothing?
  • 12-06-2007, 08:43 AM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Thats fine for you man, but i use helix i dont want to have to worry about anything going wrong. To each his own, just sayin:gj:
  • 12-06-2007, 10:44 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Thats cool... I use herpstat pro as well as repti500 but that doesnt mean im not going to suggest another thermo if they dont have the cash to buy a great one right now. People make it seem like if they use a repti500 and not a good one their snakes gonna die or something... Its no different than picking up a tv... you can buy a 100$ one that will do what you need it to just fine... or you can spend 3000$ on a 50'' plasma... In the end you get the same results so what does it matter what they use?
  • 12-06-2007, 11:22 AM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    The result is the well being of my animals. If i dont have the money then i save. Tv's dont have anything to do with my animals anyway.
  • 12-06-2007, 11:33 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Im glad you got my TV analogy? So your saying dont worry about getting a thermostat until you can afford a good one? This isnt about what you would do... its giving the OP the best advice for their situation... Who knows maybe itll take them 3-4 weeks to get enough money to buy a helix... is their snake supposed to just suffer until then?

    Again I use both a repti500 and a Herp pro... only difference is a herp pro doesnt have such a big temp swing... other than that they both have the same effect on the "well being" of my animals.
  • 12-06-2007, 11:38 AM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshJP7 View Post
    Im glad you got my TV analogy? So your saying dont worry about getting a thermostat until you can afford a good one? This isnt about what you would do... its giving the OP the best advice for their situation... Who knows maybe itll take them 3-4 weeks to get enough money to buy a helix... is their snake supposed to just suffer until then?

    Again I use both a repti500 and a Herp pro... only difference is a herp pro doesnt have such a big temp swing... other than that they both have the same effect on the "well being" of my animals.

    Good for you buddy! My snakes are all set up before they are even shipped to me. Look im not trying to debate with you, personally i dont trust the cheap tstats bottom line, i wont buy them thats it. So to the OP good luck .
  • 12-06-2007, 11:59 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    I get what your saying but why not just say that theyre cheap upfront? I never said they were great but will they work... yea... I agree with you he should get a good one but that obviously thats not gonna happen... next best thing is finding something that will keep the temps under 120 degrees.
  • 12-06-2007, 12:26 PM
    juddb
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    agreed! :gj: But in the long run it would be a good idea to invest in a top notch proportional tstat!
  • 12-06-2007, 12:31 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Shedding and Humidity
    the damns things gonna live 20 yrs id say its worth the extra $$ for a good one!
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