Salmon Boa Female (DUW)

So yesterday my gf and I followed up on a CL ad for Salmon Boas. We went to the location, and was in love. (not to mention we could care for them better than they could). Here is one of the females. She was titled as a "Salmon Boa", but that was it. Anyone have any suggestions as to what she is? Thanx so much!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/SalmonF5.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/SalmonF2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...an/SalmonF.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/SalmonF1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/SalmonF3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/SalmonF4.jpg

I dont know that shes a salmon.. i thought they had a more pink/red look to them.. shes pretty though :D

shes a lot more colorful in sunlight, but those pics are on my gfs camera. she looks alot different than the normal columbian female he had, a lot different

if you google "salmon boa" you will get what comes to mind to me... such as

http://www.boasandballs.com/Photo's/...n%2002f%20.jpg

and variations of that.. she looks much darker to me, but then again im not an expert, congrats on the pick up shes very freckly (is that a word?)

haha, she was the more spotted one, we are trying to pick up the other female and male soon. i actually looked at that same pic, but i thought i got that under super salmon? i have no idea

didnt knwo there was a "super salmon" i suppose there could be..

thats just what i found, there were lots of salmon boa pictures when you look up "salmon boa" under google image search, that was just a normal looking salmon one (not hypo, exc)..

perhaps a more seasoned boa owner can help

i know ive been on google for about three hours now and they very so much. and most of the ones i see are hatchlings. and she is about 3-4 feet

She looks like a hypomelanistic boa... I don't know if she's a salmon or not.

There are different lines of Hypo in boas, just like there are different lines of pastels in BPs, Lemon and Graziani. There's the Orange Tail line, the Salmon line, etc. So, for her to be a Salmon boa, she would have to be a hypo from that line... which is really hard to tell without proper paperwork.

Super hypos or super salmons have very little black on them, as well as very small saddles. They are usually very clean and very bright.

Nice pick-up... she should make some nice looking hypos for you down the road... or even, dare I say...... ghosts?!:D

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didnt knwo there was a "super salmon" i suppose there could be..

thats just what i found, there were lots of salmon boa pictures when you look up "salmon boa" under google image search, that was just a normal looking salmon one (not hypo, exc)..

perhaps a more seasoned boa owner can help

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Supers are normally quite a bit cleaner, with less black in them. Supers can, however, look quite a bit like normals... these are usually questionable as to whether or not they are really supers and are labeled as possibles (they will not be from a super to super breeding, but from normal hypo to normal hypo).

Supers are homozygous for the hypo gene. When bred to a normal, they will produce all supers.

looks sorta like a mite phase to me

Thank you Lynn. I wish he had paper work for her, i really do.

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looks sorta like a mite phase to me

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hey now! hahaha, they are huge mites!!!! not freckles hahaha

freckles are way cuter ;)

well i know gtps have a mite phase so i figured maybe its something like that cuz thats what the pattern looks like

could be a dark hypo, either low grade or just needs some good care.

or a salmon, i just don't know why someone would craigslist a salmon boa, they're the popular boa right now.

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looks sorta like a mite phase to me

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mite phase refers to chondros

whoops should have read further...

its cool qiksilver yea i went and corrected myself too but it deff reminded me of that pattering

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could be a dark hypo, either low grade or just needs some good care.

or a salmon, i just don't know why someone would craigslist a salmon boa, they're the popular boa right now.




mite phase refers to chondros

whoops should have read further...

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Definately a hypo, look at the tail saddles. Salmon... don't think so. Salmons tend to be pretty clean, colorful and much lighter than other hypo lines, which is why they're so popular; they can add lots of color to lots of projects.

Along the same lines, though, an adult hypo of any line can run you a pretty penny, especially females. And she looks pretty big... curious as to what you got her for?

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Definately a hypo, look at the tail saddles. Salmon... don't think so. Salmons tend to be pretty clean, colorful and much lighter than other hypo lines, which is why they're so popular; they can add lots of color to lots of projects.

Along the same lines, though, an adult hypo of any line can run you a pretty penny, especially females. And she looks pretty big... curious as to what you got her for?

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got her for actually quite a good deal. 250 i thought was not a bad bargain. and yeah shes pretty big, bigger than i thought

For her nice orange color, and her size, I would definitely say you got a steal.

You can clean up those freckles with a nice pastel... or get a cleaner hypo male, breed them, and get yourself some possible super hypos :) Or.... get yourself an anery/ivory and make some DH ghosts... ;)

Seriously, the possibilities are endless with a girl like that!

well he has a male that he is callin a salmon as well, and he is alot cleaner. he has another female too that has a few less freckles. thank you so much for your input, we really had no idea on what she was. when my gf gets home ill make her post some pics of her outside. so you def think shes a hypo? thats just as good in my book, becuase she is stunning in person those pics dont do justice, and i know everyone says that but i REALLY mean it! ;)

heres a few more outside, and you can see her true color!!!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/outside3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/outside2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/outside1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...an/outside.jpg

absolutely gorgeous

thanx monty

any ideas as to origin. columbian? central american?

no idea not that familiar with boas i just think they are beautiful snakes

You know, I can't be sure... but the more I look at that tail, the more I think she's a Central American hypo of some sort.

Check out the hypo nics on this page (the hypo nics are at the bottom): http://ballpython.com/page.php?topic=bcavailable


Of course, there's no way to tell for sure. If she's a CA, she's a pretty good size girl for that subspecies.

She may just be a very dark hypo Columbian.

way crazy! whatever she is, we love her, she is precious

Here's a pic of an adult Hypo nic: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...&tbnw=63&prev=

More and more I'm thinking that's what she might be.

No way to tell... but I agree, she's bery special and very gorgeous!

Yes she is amazing... I love her to pieces already!!! Can't wait to see her babies...

jesus wheres jimi when you need him..

Looks like a labrador..... :P nice color

i know i was thinking of emailing jimis myspace and see whats up.

hey pat there was a thread about a central boa that had the same markings as you if i find the thread ill pm it to you

yead dude if you find it that would be awesome. ive just been goin through the redtail forum clicking on every post

I know practically nothing about boas so sorry I can't help any..

but, I can tell you this....Sis very pretty...I love the "freckles"

Yes that is a Hypomelanistic, aka Salmon. You see the very slight "bowtie" saddles? It also has that very reduced black around the red saddles on the tail too. It's not a "top notch" salmon, very muddy actually, but it is a Salmon/Hypo nonetheless. I've seen worse, but she's not the cleanest Salmon...I would make sure whatever I bred her to was EXTREMELY super clean in order to balance some of her peppering and such.

To also clarify, a super salmon/hypo boa cannot really be pointed out too easily. They USUALLY will have a higher contrast and much more abberancies, but this is not always the case. It's a "breed and proove" thing.

dude jimi, you are the man! Thanx a bunch for responding. the male salmon that was going to be paired with her is SUPER clean. almost no pepper marks, so i hope that should take some out like you said. i might even have to get an anery from you my man! :D

Forget the anery, get a ghost male and then you'll have all 100% Dh Ghosts and het anerys, lol. Step it up a little, ;)

so your gonna hook it up right? hahaha ;)