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  • 11-30-2007, 06:09 PM
    Beardedragon
    I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Well, i got to thinking, what am i going to sell my morphs for. I know that the prices will be different, so i am setting my prices low so i will not be in shock if they drop to much. Id also love to get people their dreams of owning morphs without having to give a leg for the snake.

    Right now i have spiders and a pastel, hopefully if weights permit i'll have babies next spring. I'll also have albinos but they will be no where near breeding by spring. I'll give a price anyways although im expecting albinos to have dropped a lot by the time i have off spring.

    Spiders- males/ females- $300 each I got my first spider for this price and she was a 06 (shes been with me for about a month now) and also a poss het albino, so i think i hit the jack pot there.i know i was in snake price heaven when i got her

    Pastels- males 75, females 200(possible shipped)

    Bumblebees, 1000 shipped. Although im not sure if i'll be getting rid of any out of my first clutch.

    Super pastels(permitting i get a 06 pastel female Ive been eyeing) i think 800-900 will be their price by then so i'll say 900 shipped.

    Albinos, 600 males or females. although i think albinos will stay stable at 500$ soon.

    Albino spiders- $4000 if i ever get around to breeding her with a albino to see if she is more than a 50% het. If not then i think spiders het albinos id sell for $1000 each, i think they are going for around $2000 right now

    Normals- id want to rid of these faster then the morphs, so i think $15 each would be my offer now and in the future, although craigslist is great for these:) What do you guys think? What would you like to see these morphs being sold for(reasonably)
  • 11-30-2007, 06:14 PM
    jdmls88
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    you shouldnt lowball the market on the spiders id do atleast $350.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:19 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    yeah, but this will be in a year and they might naturally be that low. With shipping they would come up to $350 anyways.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:19 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    feed your snakes
    clean your snakes


    when you have enough food, enclosures, and space for babies, then breed them

    then IF you get eggs, put whatever price you want on them


    just keep in mind.............


    its not as easy as it sounds!


    good luck!
  • 11-30-2007, 06:20 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    yeah i kinda agree. it retail its called "cutting under" or at least thats what i was told. i know your trying to be cheap to get out there but at the same time your under cuttin someone else.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:24 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    First, you're bordering on advertising, which is only allowed in the For Sale section on the forum. Second - you should read the sticky in the Breeding Forum about breeding ball pythons.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=49580

    Your name wouldn't happen to be Jimmy would it?
  • 11-30-2007, 06:26 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    i think most of those prices will already be that low within the next three years when my babys are adults, and next year i know they will have gone down some. Ive been seeing spiders pop up every once in a while for 375 already, and pastels really depend on their colors.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:27 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    i think most of those prices will already be that low within the next three years when my babys are adults, and next year i know they will have gone down some. Ive been seeing spiders pop up every once in a while for 375 already, and pastels really depend on their colors.

    It's pre-mature for you to be pricing animals at this stage anyway. And you won't be taken seriously as a breeder if you undervalue your animals.

    Best not to count your snakes before they hatch.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:29 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    no, my names Matt. Im definitely not trying to sell anything, it would be silly to try a year before you have any eggs:P Im sorry, im sort of new to the forum, so i haven't figured everything out yet, i was going to post in the breeding section but after looking it over i was seeing that everything was more focus on selling and not talk. I posted this to see what peoples opinions are also on what they think morphs will be in time.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:31 PM
    jdmls88
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reediculous View Post
    feed your snakes
    clean your snakes


    when you have enough food, enclosures, and space for babies, then breed them

    then IF you get eggs, put whatever price you want on them


    just keep in mind.............


    its not as easy as it sounds!


    good luck!


    GREAT advice!
  • 11-30-2007, 06:35 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Just read over the link, Ive planed this through, im not in this for money. Im not even planing on breaking even because i know i wont for a while. Ive got a vet that is wonderful with reptiles just minutes away, a nice rat and mouse breeding colony going on, and tons of racks time and love:)

    rab, i see that you live in Marietta, i live in the kennesaw acworth area.

    What does everyone think albino ball prices will stop at?
  • 11-30-2007, 06:50 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Isn’t it a bit pre-mature to price BP that you don’t even have? What’s next you gonna take pre-orders? :rolleyes:

    Raise your BP to proper breeding weight, and wait to see what will happen than!

    You have a long road ahead of you and anything can happen.
  • 11-30-2007, 06:54 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons View Post
    Isn’t it a bit pre-mature to price BP that you don’t even have? What’s next you gonna take pre-orders? :rolleyes:


    You have a long road ahead of you and anything can happen.


    Exactly! Im not going to put anyone out, if i had the babys now(this would be in the for sell section) and i would not be selling that low. Anything and alot of things will happen to prices way before (if) i have anything

    Were you talking to me or the person who originally said that on the premature part?
  • 11-30-2007, 07:07 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Were you talking to me or the person who originally said that on the premature part?

    To you since, you are the one that started the thread.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Thats what i think albino balls will be at in the future. Clear that up? These are the prices i think the morphs will be at then, but you just do not know. I wouldnt have posted this if i had known this would cause so much trouble. i just wanted to know what everyone thinks these certain morphs will be in two years time.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:19 PM
    Brimstone111888
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Counting your snakes before they hatch.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:28 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    ok well im droping the thread, ive explained that i just want to know what people think the prices will be and all almost everyone has been to me is rude.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:33 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    I think that they are just trying to tell you, that there is really no way to know what a morph's general price will be in a few years. A lot of factors could come into play..
  • 11-30-2007, 07:38 PM
    jknudson
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Wait until you produce the animals....see what the market prices are at...and set prices from there. Until them, enjoy your animals and don't worry about the mone.

    If you're concerned about how much you're going to make off of them you're in this hobby for the wrong reasons.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:40 PM
    ama1997
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Its hard to say what the price will be. On X morph look at the way the prices are going now. Male pastels as low as 75.00 thats nuts. Who knows something could happen and the pastels could go back up to what they were 2 or 3 years ago. Dont think that will really happen, but the way things are going whos knows what will happen. Like said grow your animals, build your collection and when you have some babies forsale. Sell them for what the market price is at that time for that animal.
  • 11-30-2007, 07:43 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    These two replys i like, no one saying im trying to sell anything years before i even have eggs, and gines response i find much more appropriate, thanks, thats what i want to know. As i said before im not in this for money, i have a great job ata exotic petstore and that brings in plenty of money and is fun. Im doing it because i love Balls!( Royals :P)
  • 11-30-2007, 07:46 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ama1997 View Post
    Its hard to say what the price will be. On X morph look at the way the prices are going now. Male pastels as low as 75.00 thats nuts. Who knows something could happen and the pastels could go back up to what they were 2 or 3 years ago. Dont think that will really happen, but the way things are going whos knows what will happen. Like said grow your animals, build your collection and when you have some babies forsale. Sell them for what the market price is at that time for that animal.

    I bought my pastel for $90, which turned into 140 shipped, 75 shipped would be crazy:cool:
  • 11-30-2007, 07:54 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    One thing with Pastels.. the price will fluctuate greatly depending on the snake's appearance. Also on its lines; there are Lemons; Blondes; Grazianis; etc. :)
  • 11-30-2007, 07:58 PM
    ama1997
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    I paid more than 75 for mine. Ive just herd people say they got a male pastel for 75 from a show or seen them for that at a show. Have also seen them on KS for that low a few times. I paid 200 for my male I didnt have him shipped I went and picked him up. 75 shipped I dont know if I have seen them that low yet. I have herd somewhere that they have been showing up in pet stores now. I havent seen any yet, but sooner or later they will start showing up around here.
  • 11-30-2007, 08:08 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    i never ment 75 shipped, depending on colors/lines the females for 200-250 shipped. but as i keep hearing lately, dont count on anything before they hatch...
  • 11-30-2007, 08:15 PM
    rabernet
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    And if you notice, the pastels under $100 are usually very low grade, lower quality pastels. The nicer ones are worth more. I won't be under pricing my lemon pastel males - you can bet on it!
  • 11-30-2007, 08:25 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    well, heres my pastel that was 90, i think i got a great deal. He is very high contrast

    http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/IMG_0529.jpg
    http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...Picture087.jpg

    (his hide was upgraded to a cocconut hide soon after wards, that was just a quick fix untill i got one)

    http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/IMG_0337.jpg
  • 11-30-2007, 09:35 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    I agree with everyone else about "hatch some snakes, 1st, then worry about pricing afterwards".

    But as for pricing; I think that's the hardest thing about breeding. On the one hand, you can't charge as high as people like Adam at 8-ball or NERD. If they're selling pastels for $500 and you're selling pastels for $500, people will buy from the big guy because they're well known and have a good rep. On the other hand, if you price too low, it looks fishy and people will think "if it's too good to be true...".

    So there is a definite balance there that hobbyist breeders have to find when pricing. Anywho, good luck with your snakes. Get the raised up and hatch some snakes, then lets talk about pricing.
  • 11-30-2007, 10:43 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    discussing prices is uncomfortable for everybody
  • 12-01-2007, 01:33 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    I dont think ive seen it mentioned yet but you pay for what you get... Yea you may find a pastel for 75 but it prolly doesnt look that great... Good looking parents make good looking snakes... try sellin a 75$ not so great looking pastel against a 300$ bright yellow one and the majority of people will pay the extra cash. Just because you have a snake for sale doesnt mean people are going to want to buy it. Everyone and their best friend has a pastel so its not about finding one for sale cheap... its finding a great looking snake for a reasonable price... This is just how I see it when I purchase snakes.
  • 12-01-2007, 02:49 AM
    jknudson
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Post that same snake when he's 1000g+....

    My guess is he'll be a nice shade of....brown....but congrats on your purchase and getting him as cheap as possible....good luck with that one, should make some nice brown babies!:gj:
  • 12-01-2007, 11:42 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBallPython View Post
    Post that same snake when he's 1000g+....

    My guess is he'll be a nice shade of....brown....but congrats on your purchase and getting him as cheap as possible....good luck with that one, should make some nice brown babies!:gj:

    Thanks
  • 12-02-2007, 10:13 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: I was thinking about these prices to sell my babys for
    Hey guys, im sorry for this thread. I did not know it would cause so much trouble for everyone. I'll put prices on my snakes WHEN(if) i have babys, never before again.
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