getting a new chondro

hi all well as you read the title im getting a new chondro (aka gtp). anyways im not going to get him for at least a cupple of months. But i want to decide what kind of chondro i want
soo im going to decide now. What i put my choices down to were to these three
a sorong,biak,aru i really like these and i want to choose but i see all kinds of pics and im confused on what to get can you guys plz help me decide what to get also plz post pics of your chondros
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feel free to offer differnt localitys for the chondros

I'm getting a Morelia Viridis soon too, and i think I'm going with the Sorong but that could change!
I dont have any pictures for you! Sorry!
Good Luck on your search!

I really like Arus. The blue and white on some of them is just awesome, and I hear they tend to tame a little easier than Biaks. If I got another one I would definately get a pure Aru myself. Do you now who you are going to buy from yet?

I do. Signal Herp. The canary.... loooove them. :D

What are the differences between them? I'd like one that tended to have a lot of blue and green in it that stays a bit more calm. If thats an Aru like Jake says then I'd go for that one.

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Originally Posted by Jonny2184

I'm getting a Morelia Viridis soon too, and i think I'm going with the Sorong but that could change!
I dont have any pictures for you! Sorry!
Good Luck on your search!

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cool gl to you

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I really like Arus. The blue and white on some of them is just awesome, and I hear they tend to tame a little easier than Biaks. If I got another one I would definately get a pure Aru myself. Do you now who you are going to buy from yet?

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well aru's are cool just i need too look around alot more cuz i want to see some parents genetics. and imm prolly going to get it from ben seigels reptiles i live like 1h and 30 min away so i can go over their and buy ( dont wanna pay on shiping if i can drive their) on their they allways have a good selection of gtps i got my jaya type chondro their

i like a lot of aru's but i've seen great examples of all so i'd say just take your time and study the parents!

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Originally Posted by kzooherpetoculturist

i like a lot of aru's but i've seen great examples of all so i'd say just take your time and study the parents!

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hmm im getting alot of responces on aru's well then i guess biak is out of the question i like sorong types the maroone ones with the yellow spots are awsome i just dont like when they go throught the color change and turn orange hmm hard decision aru or sorong:confused: lol

It is a hard decision. Sorongs are nice too.

yea i like sorongs alot they usually have a nice blue patterns

I have a Sorong locality type...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...111/tramp7.jpg

Mark, these stay nice and blue and green... and my guy is not aggressive.

nice looking chondro. who did you buy him from? how much did he cost. and how old is he?

I got him from a guy here in TX, he was produced by Frantz herp, and he's about 2 years old.

Since you are not intending to buy one for a while, I would do some researching and check out a couple of GTP forums. You definitely need to shop wise and don't be afraid to spend a bit more money on one that you really like.
Arus are some of the tamest. Sorongs are nice too. Biaks tend to be a bit higher strung than the other locales.
If you are truly looking for a locale GTP, you need to check parents and do reference searches. Many people tag on a locale to their GTP's to make a little more money on them.

I also noticed on your signature, that you have a coastal x eastern carpet. What is an eastern carpet?? I am fairly well versed in carpet pythons and never heard of an eastern carpet.

yea i know what to look at when buying chondro babys the i allready have a jayapura anyways i pretty sure ill wait till next season to buy my new chondro and i have an idea of where im going to get mine if he still has them avalible ill buy the one i want but if he doesnt then ill wait also your last question when i bought my carpet i asked the guys what i was and they said coastal x eastern and i looked eastern up and i found this website http://www.mark.org.au/pages/cs_carpetpython.htm i guess the easterns are very similar to coastals

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Originally Posted by bonheki

yea i know what to look at when buying chondro babys the i allready have a jayapura anyways i pretty sure ill wait till next season to buy my new chondro and i have an idea of where im going to get mine if he still has them avalible ill buy the one i want but if he doesnt then ill wait also your last question when i bought my carpet i asked the guys what i was and they said coastal x eastern and i looked eastern up and i found this website http://www.mark.org.au/pages/cs_carpetpython.htm i guess the easterns are very similar to coastals

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By looking at the link you provided, it says "coastal carpet or Eastern carpet python", meaning they are the same thing. So you either have a coastal crossed with a coastal which is "a coastal" or since they told you it was a cross, I believe you were lied to. No one uses the term Eastern carpet.

oh ok thanks ill change my siganture now soo i have a coastal right but compared to that pic mine looks darker and with a liitle differnt patterns

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Originally Posted by bonheki

oh ok thanks ill change my siganture now soo i have a coastal right but compared to that pic mine looks darker and with a liitle differnt patterns

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I don't think so. Go over and read the hybrid thread you started. I posted some info over there. Without background info on your carpet, I would have to say that it is an American carpet, Morelia domesticus.
Considering in your own words, you said that told you it was a coastal cross. No one sells a ball and says, "This is a ball x eastern ball." It was either a ball breeding or a cross breeding.
I bet you have a cross but without seeing it and knowing any background info on it, who knows.

yea true ill post some pics of her shes only 5 months

This is also a reason to buy from a respected breeder instead of a wholesaler or jobber.

i saw your website are you carpet pure breed or mixed?

I work with pure specimens. I am also working with a gentleman in Europe to import some more pure lines in.
My original Lemke line of coastals has a long pedigree going back to the mid 90's when carpets were just really hitting the scene in the US. A good deal of carpets were brought into the States back then in less than legal ways.

this is the only pic i can get now a pic of his whole body http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...i/PICT3078.jpg

oh hmmm prolly in the future ill buy a carpet from you

I can't get a good look at it but from what I can see, it looks to be a jungle x coastal. I would need a clearer pic.

But even at that, it is only a guess.

well shes going into shed soon soo she looks a little darker ill try to post better pics tommorow but she moves way to much

Turn the flash on. ;)

i got her right on the light and i decided to go with the sorong i was reading up on my greg maxwelll the more complete chondro and i was looking them up and i decided the sorong is right for me then ill get the biaks and arus in the future also im only going to breed pure breeds from now on with the exception of some hybrids on my list (carpondros)

Bonheki,

In a sense, I have each of the types you're thinking of, so I can tell you what little I know about the localities based on my experiences with the ones I own (individual results may vary!).

I have a 5 yr. old male that was sold to me as Aru but looks more Sorong than Aru, but has aspects of both. Best guess so far from people who've looked at him is that he's an Aru/Sorong cross. Extremely gentle chondro and always easy to handle, though some days he's more enthusiastic about it than others, e.g., on a bad day he'll huff and puff once or twice before settling in, but on a good day he'll come right off his perch and into my arms without any prompting...I just take his perch out of the tank with him on it and he comes off. Allows petting, touching his head and nose, etc. From what I've heard, that's the Sorong personality coming through.

I have a Manokwari female yearling. You haven't mentioned this locality, but if you check the maps, you'll see the Manokwari regency is adjacent to Sorong, and it's not like they collect these snakes in the cities, so it's a safe bet the snakes themselves aren't as descriminating in the wild about borders and races as we are. They're probably not concerned with keeping their types pure. So Sorongs and Manokwaris look similar to me, and here's the kicker: my Manokwari is also very gentle and actually fell asleep in my hand yesterday (at least I assumed she was asleep...she rested her head on my wrist and didn't move for almost an hour while I typed one-handed). When she got up, I let her curl up on the wooden grid of a chair back. She was all wrapped up around two vertical slats and a crossbar, and when it was time for me to put her away she let me untangle her, never once resisting despite numerous wide-open opportunities to bite me.

Here's what she looks like:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...hons/small.jpg

I also have a female Biak, 3 years old. She's nervous and unpredictable. This weekend I had a nice handling session with her but it wasn't until 15 minutes after I managed to get her off her perch that touching her didn't provoke sudden reactions/movements from her. She's given me easier sessions in the past, but she's also given me harder ones: she bit my daughter in the face a few months back, and she tagged me on the wrist about a week ago. Usually she doesn't bite, but the way she looks right into my eyes can be unnerving. When she does strike there are no warnings and no clues. I wear safety glasses when handling her, because evading her will not be possible. When she bit my daughter, my daughter was holding the snake in her arms for 10 minutes, then suddenly thought she'd been stung by a wasp. She saw neither the strike nor the recoil.

I will never get another Biak. She sure is pretty, though!

Finally, if handling is important for you, I would encourage you to purchase a yearling or older, and try to have an opportunity to handle the snake for yourself.

I'm no expert and I'm new to chondros, but that's how I'd do it.

oh well thanks for your info and view on chondros i have a jayapura type 2 month old yellow and i think getting yearlings are alot more difficult to handel cuz usually breeders dont play with the snakes or they can be considered cb but actually wc soo i like to go with hatchlings and as hatchlings you actually see them grow and change colors like the kind of chondro that i might get or that is on my mind is a sorong . I saw who i wanted them from and the color i wanted i want a red one with yellow spots but thanks for you opions but i think i might get a burm my 3 options are a redtail boa,chondro,burm in that exact same order is the ones im most intrested in the burm being the one i want the most soo i will see and again thanks

dont they have really long fangs? i though arboreal snakes have longer fangs for catching birds etc

yes they do cuz if they dident their food would drop faster my chondro bite me over 10 times yesterday and hes only one foot and he bites harder hen my carpet witch is 3 ft but he isnt stronger

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Originally Posted by bonheki

yes they do cuz if they dident their food would drop faster my chondro bite me over 10 times yesterday and hes only one foot and he bites harder hen my carpet witch is 3 ft but he isnt stronger

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I hate to sound like an ass but have you ever attempted to use the spell-checker that they have so graciously provided for posters here???
If you don't know where it is, look in the upper right hand corner of the box above the smilies box. It is an "abc" with a checkmark under it.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

I hate to sound like an ass but have you ever attempted to use the spell-checker that they have so graciously provided for posters here???
If you don't know where it is, look in the upper right hand corner of the box above the smilies box. It is an "abc" with a checkmark under it.

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i agre wif u there, i h8 whn ppl typ lyke tht.

Haha, oh man.

Were you feeding him by hand? Not very wise. I think most chondro keepers avoid that by using long tongs... just some advice.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Were you feeding him by hand? Not very wise. I think most chondro keepers avoid that by using long tongs... just some advice.

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Every wise GTP keeper that I know of uses feeding forceps.

Yes exactly!! I can't even imagine being bit 10 times by a GTP. Did you visit the doctor? And really, invest in some tongs/forceps. It will be worth it.

hahahahahhahahahahaha

once more hahahahahhaahhaha

Would you care to share what's so darn funny? :confused:

I also want to know why you want a GTP for a handling snake? They are fragile and shouldn't be handled unless necessary(removable perches are a must).

Hope you're not handling that 2 month old.. :confused:

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Would you care to share what's so darn funny? :confused:

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yea its funny dat ur trying to rank on a 14 year old who knows these thing allready i know im not a dee dee dee just these things are animals not freakin butterflys in da wild do you think when their getting eatin and banged up the preadator will go easy just because their fragile like seriously they dont care i would say some people just put too much attention to these things and wow my spelling is bad its the end of world . i mean i treat my snakes good and i know that and i dont care what anyone alse says. this is a forum to talk about helping others nd experiences on these animals just some people think wow you do something wrong were gonna rank on u now well NO! i just dont give a fuhhhh i do my reasearch i doo these things just dang some people think i care about their opinions well guess what i dont cuz i know what im doing. i just ingnore these kind of things and people think they get to me but guess what no . hehehehehhehe . and are my snakes dead no are my snakes healthy yes soo guess what apearently im doing a good job maybe every now and then i makes some mistakes but guess what im human your human were not perfect der i said it theirs sumthin to think about for the rest of ur lives
:O:D:rolleyes::snake::8::taz::salute::banana:
heheheh

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

I also want to know why you want a GTP for a handling snake? They are fragile and shouldn't be handled unless necessary(removable perches are a must).

Hope you're not handling that 2 month old.. :confused:

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i bearly handle my chondro maybe once a week some times not even ok

Yes, your maturity is overflowing in this post. I don't see how recommending a feeding tong is condesending. But thank you for letting us know that you don't want any advice. I will make sure I don't offend you with my obnoxious drivel. :rolleyes:

Bonheki,

If you are not looking for advice or information, than why post?? I am sorry but your grammar skills are atrocious. My 9 year old daughter can write better! You may not care but rest assured that most people determine your IQ level by how you type and respond on a computer. :banned1: I, for one, will no longer respond to your illiterate and incomprehensible posts. I already have a headache and reading your dribble makes them worse.