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  • 11-19-2007, 12:18 AM
    pythontricker
    Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    i was just wondernig what would happen with an albino and a spider? would you get an albino spider. and how much do albino spiders cost?
  • 11-19-2007, 12:25 AM
    Thunder Kat
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    I don't know about albino spiders, but I have seen albino pieds and spider pieds. Just about any thing is possible with morphs.
  • 11-19-2007, 12:29 AM
    gncz73
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    if you breed a spider to and albino you would hatch out spiders and normals that are 100% het for albino. then you would have to let the spiders that are 100% het grow up and breed them back to an albino to get a abino spider
  • 11-19-2007, 12:31 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gncz73 View Post
    if you breed a spider to and albino you would hatch out spiders and normals that are 100% het for albino. then you would have to let the spiders that are 100% het grow up and breed them back to an albino to get a abino spider

    nice call :gj:


    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gal...piderF-5_1.jpg
  • 11-19-2007, 12:35 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    oh ok thats cool. so 100% het albino + spider = albino spider rite. how much do albino spiders cost?
  • 11-19-2007, 12:39 AM
    gncz73
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    no the spider has to be 100%het for albino and when breed back to a albino or 100% het albino you have a good chance for an albino spider and they cost around 15000 if i recall right

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    oh ok thats cool. so 100% het albino + spider = albino spider rite. how much do albino spiders cost?

  • 11-19-2007, 12:41 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    look for a post where i asked about albino pied
  • 11-19-2007, 12:44 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    then how do you get a spider that is 100% het for albino?
  • 11-19-2007, 12:48 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    exactly what you said HET albino X spider = spider het albino, het albino and spider right everyone???????
  • 11-19-2007, 12:53 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    omg this is getting so confusing! could some one please explain this in dummy vertion!
  • 11-19-2007, 01:15 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    ok so here it goes. 100% het x 100% het = 25% albino, 50% Het, 25% normal.


    in your situation....if you wanted an albino spider you would need a spider, and an albino aka homozygous

    homo albino x homo spider = double het (not sure of percentages)

    you need to raise the double hets and prove those together inorder to achieve the double mutation. one in sixteen chance.


    If i am correct
  • 11-19-2007, 01:20 AM
    OhClueless1
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    I am lost... you all have gotten me interested in genetics and morphs and what not. The last three days I have been reading everything I can get my hands on about it and my poor mind is boggled now. Thanks. j/k

    $15,000?????:O:O:O:O OMG that is crazy
  • 11-19-2007, 01:21 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    thats not even that much money for a mutation. the new super stripe red tail boa goes for 65K
  • 11-19-2007, 01:25 AM
    Brimstone111888
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Wrong. There are no homo spiders or no one has been able to prove it yet. To get an albino spider you need to first breed a Spider and Albino.

    The offspring will be normal looking or spider looking, but all of them will be het for albino or every snake in the offspring has 1 albino gene. You need 2 albino genes for it to show in the phenotype.

    Now you take your Spider het albino and you breed it to an albino. Then you have a CHANCE at an Albino spider.
  • 11-19-2007, 01:30 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brimstone111888 View Post
    Wrong. There are no homo spiders or no one has been able to prove it yet. To get an albino spider you need to first breed a Spider and Albino.

    The offspring will be normal looking or spider looking, but all of them will be het for albino or every snake in the offspring has 1 albino gene. You need 2 albino genes for it to show in the phenotype.

    Now you take your Spider het albino and you breed it to an albino. Then you have a CHANCE at an Albino spider.


    this is becuase spiders are a dominant gene????? and albino is recessive?
  • 11-19-2007, 01:38 AM
    Brimstone111888
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    No its because a lot of people believe that a homo spider is a lethal combo so the eggs never hatch or survive.

    No one has seriously tried to prove it because it is a waste of time. They can make much better combos than tying up a female for a year.

    I also believe spider is a Co-dom gene. That is why it can be shown in Bumblebees and many other spider morphs
  • 11-19-2007, 01:39 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    hmm....
  • 11-19-2007, 01:44 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    what gene is a spider albino? dom, co-dom, reccesive?
  • 11-19-2007, 01:49 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    there seperate......go to that link i posted


    http://www.ballpythons.ca/genetics.html


    oooops there it was
  • 11-19-2007, 01:53 AM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    what gene is a spider albino? dom, co-dom, reccesive?

    I'll make this easy for you And Me.. An albino (reccesive) x spider(dom) = Every baby in the clutch 100% het albino. Any Spider from this clutch bred to another animal carrying the albino gene will eventually produce an albino spider..

    An albino spider= Half reccesive half dom....
  • 11-19-2007, 01:57 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    So basically, to get an albino spider, you would need an albino to breed with a spider het albino.

    :gj:
  • 11-19-2007, 01:59 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Now I Gots It. Thank You So Much I Was So Freakin Confused. I Gots A Gnarly Head Ach. Oy
  • 11-19-2007, 02:06 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    so ok here goes. coming from the dyslexic. albino+spider=spider/norm all het albino. spider het albino+albino= spider albino. please forgive me if im wrong. its so confusing.
  • 11-19-2007, 02:29 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    :gj:YES!!! :gj:
  • 11-19-2007, 02:35 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    and is this proven? cuz i would love to test this some time within some time. i could use $15000 or more!
  • 11-19-2007, 02:38 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Of course it is proven. This is how the Albino Spider came to be! :D
  • 11-19-2007, 02:40 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    well. there you have it ive learned a crap load tonight. woohoo. gnarly head ach! woo thanks aton lol jk!:salute:
  • 11-19-2007, 03:43 PM
    andwhy6
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    and is this proven? cuz i would love to test this some time within some time. i could use $15000 or more!

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ava...cat.php?cat=28

    heres some awesome albino spiders from NERD for as low as 4000
  • 11-20-2007, 12:39 PM
    jcp
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Hi

    you pair a Spide x albino then you also get some Spider Het albino hatch.. When you breed those Spider Het albino x Albino then you will have a change of albino spiders

    Gr stijn

    i now somebody have tell :p but hehe i like it
  • 11-20-2007, 04:08 PM
    juddb
    Re: Albino bp + spider = albino spider?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brimstone111888 View Post
    No its because a lot of people believe that a homo spider is a lethal combo so the eggs never hatch or survive.

    No one has seriously tried to prove it because it is a waste of time. They can make much better combos than tying up a female for a year.

    I also believe spider is a Co-dom gene. That is why it can be shown in Bumblebees and many other spider morphs

    Ive never heard of this, lethal??? The spider is a dom trait until there is a super produced, bumblebees are just a designer morph. What do bumblebees have to do with spiders being co dom???
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