Is it safe to feed a BP a frog

Is it safe to feed a BP a frog? Anybody know? Cuz I want to know if it's safe or not?( I feed my BP frozen/thawed mice)

Ball pythons eat rodents....frogs aren't rodents.

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Originally Posted by jalsdiablo

Is it safe to feed a BP a frog?

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No.

Hope this helps.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

No.

Hope this helps.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

No.

Hope this helps.

-adam

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I agree. While this might be technically "safe", Your BP won't eat it or even recoginize it as food. Stick to your f/t mice!

might give him heartburn

Go for it. :gj:

Just out of curiosity - why do you want to feed a frog?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

Go for it. :gj:

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Just out of curiosity, why would you suggest going for it?

Just out of curiosity...why is everyone so curious?

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

Just out of curiosity...why is everyone so curious?

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Just out of curiosity, why is it so hilarious reading your msg while staring at your avatar?????

Steve

just out of curiosity, why have no questions been answered?

Just out of curiosity, why are frogs are so curious? I thought monkeys were (i.e. Curious George)

Just out of curiosity, why am i curious to find out why a curious person would feed a curious frog and ask a panel of curious people and in a curious forum and even make my little curious niece why im using curious so much in a curious thread...:cool:

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Originally Posted by Krazy99CL

Just out of curiosity, why am i curious to find out why a curious person would feed a curious frog and ask a panel of curious people and in a curious forum and even make my little curious niece why im using curious so much in a curious thread...:cool:

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:headbang:

Are you talking about a frog from a pet store, or a frog you catch up at your cottage?

While I bow to the expertise of those with far more knowledge than I, and thus echo a resolute ‘no’ to the original question, I will also mention; frogs caught in the wild may seem ‘safe’ to use for feeders, but they can harbor a great risk. In recent years frogs in the wild have been undergoing one of the most rapid breakdowns of species stability.

Frogs are heavily influenced by their environments which are quickly vanishing and becoming polluted by man. Their skin is one of the thinnest dermis membranes of any species of animal, and as such, it quickly absorbs all toxins found in their environments; from boat fuel overflow to chemical toilet dumplings. The rapidly increasing mutations among various frog species have also been used as proof of vanishing ozone on living species. Their thin skin is highly susceptible to the radiation normally blocked by the ozone.

While a wild-caught frog may appear healthy, its body may harbor a host of chemical pollutants which render it sterile, only able to produce weak or mutated offspring, or drastically shorten its own life-span. I do not suggest this is always the case, but in a rapidly growing segment of North America, this is a sad reality. (And all of this is not to even touch on the topic of potential parasites!)

Reputable breeders of feeder animals take great care to ensure quality animals that are raised on proper diets and are disease/parasite free. Personally, I think the amount of money I will be paying for feeders from a trusted breeder is a small price when compared to the continued health of my snake, not to mention the peace of mind for myself.

In summation, BPs eat rodents in the wild as a natural course of diet. Why mess with success? :snake:

NightLad--you made some AWESOME points about frogs and the effect that environmental pollutants have on their species. There was one thing in your post that made me do a double-take and gave me a good chuckle...

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Originally Posted by NightLad

chemical toilet dumplings.

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I know you meant "chemical toilet dumpings", but imagining chemical toilet dumplings was really funny. I give this typo a :gj: Thanks for both an intelligent post and an excellent laugh!

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Originally Posted by hoo-t

Just out of curiosity, why is it so hilarious reading your msg while staring at your avatar?????

Steve

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I am so glad I was not the only one thinking that.

AzureN1ght

Thanks for the props on my frog comments.

Hmmm… you know, I actually ate some of the worst Chinese dumplings I’ve ever had in a little dive down in China town today. Maybe that typo was my subconscious at work. Although ‘toilet dumplings’ does have a certain flair. I’ll have to remember to work it into my vocabulary!

hehehe

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Originally Posted by python.princess

might give him heartburn

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Or worse :puke2:,stick to the rodents :mouse2:

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

Just out of curiosity, why would you suggest going for it?

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I have a low tolerence for dumb questions. Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I have a low tolerence for dumb questions. Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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Death in 2 weeks huh? You seem pretty sure.

Myabe you tried it?

I don't understand these posts. Myabe I have a low tolerance for people who chime in for no reason. It would make perfect sense if the thread was entitled "Hey, come be a jerk to me for no reason."

Whatever.

I vote for not safe.

Nope, Never tried it.

And go to hell. :)

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I have a low tolerence for dumb questions. Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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I have a low tolerance for people who make this an unsafe place to ask a simple question. :mad:

Frogs and other amphibians tend to have somewhat pseudo toxic stuff coming from their skin. Perhaps this would be benign in the case of a particular species, but i'm not sure it's worth it.

Plus, frogs are cold blooded. Your snake is programmed to desire eating warm blooded fuzzy things. It might be okay (?) but i personally wouldn't (and i wouldn't expect the snake to take it either way).

There are snakes out there that eat frogs and small lizards. Just not ball pythons. ;)

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

There are snakes out there that eat frogs and small lizards. Just not ball pythons. ;)

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touche.

Lots of good points. Environmental pollutant sponges, cold blooded, potentially toxic skin, parasite infested, not the BP's natural diet - all do it for me. I'm convinced. I wish all you level-headed people would respond to MY threads (bathing with snakes and kissing them, in particular!). :rofl:

I'm still curious, however, how this question came up. Was it a philosophical pondering, or did you catch a frog in a jar and wonder what to do with it?

If you want to give your BP some dietary variety, try gerbils. Then you can ask how to get the BP off of gerbils before you go broke. :D

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Originally Posted by Melissa

If you want to give your BP some dietary variety, try gerbils. Then you can ask how to get the BP off of gerbils before you go broke.

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you breed the lil buggers... they are just as, if not more promiscuous then mice/rats. Just try finding someone willing to feed their snake gerbils if you ever need to sell your snakes.

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

you breed the lil buggers... they are just as, if not more promiscuous then mice/rats. Just try finding someone willing to feed their snake gerbils if you ever need to sell your snakes.

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From what I understand, they are not as "fruitful," let's say. But at least, they don't devour their young. ;)

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I have a low tolerence for dumb questions.

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Then its a good thing when your were asking questions about flea bombs, and boas sheds, and boa eye problems that someone with more tolerance, and the knowledge you were after didn't consider your questions dumb.

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Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

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Let me think.......http://www.davidbowie.com/users/ramoana/thinking.gif

Oh I got it because they didn't know any better

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Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

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And where would you be if someone had just said you know what thats just dumb. Let him fea bomb the house with the snakes in it and when he comes back in two weeks saying "my snakes died" then they'll know.

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Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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Yea maybe.. But I don't find it funny. In the future you might want to remember that you were asking "dumb" questions yourself in the not so distant past and that had our mentality been as "survival of the fittest" as yours was here it might have cost you the lives of your pets.

So in short if your post don't help out in a way that is what we admire in thread that is asking a question best to leave the teaching to someone that can.

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Originally Posted by MelissaFlipski

If you want to give your BP some dietary variety, try gerbils. Then you can ask how to get the BP off of gerbils before you go broke. :D

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Trying to think of a nice way to say this...but that's not very good advice...I think there's a little bit of sarcasm in there, though.

Ball pythons are imprint feeders and don't need any "variety" in their diet.

They get all the nutrients they'll ever need from a diet on one type of rodent prey.

Switching things up on them, including the type of prey, is not a good idea with ball pythons. Some handle it better than others (I have a bp that will eat mice or rats any time, any place), but it is generally a better to find one thing that works for you, whether it be mice, rats, gerbils, or elephants, and stick to it.

Hmmm...elephants. Good bone density, so I'd imagine you'd see quick growth. Does RodentPro stock them yet?

my boa ate an elephant once... must have had a bad aftertaste as she only eats democrats now... :snake:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

So in short if your post don't help out in a way that is what we admire in thread that is asking a question best to leave the teaching to someone that can.

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Post of the DAY!!!

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I enjoyed the whole post Ed...but this was the BEST part!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Then its a good thing when your were asking questions about flea bombs, and boas sheds, and boa eye problems that someone with more tolerance, and the knowledge you were after didn't consider your questions dumb.



Let me think.......http://www.davidbowie.com/users/ramoana/thinking.gif

Oh I got it because they didn't know any better


And where would you be if someone had just said you know what thats just dumb. Let him fea bomb the house with the snakes in it and when he comes back in two weeks saying "my snakes died" then they'll know.


Yea maybe.. But I don't find it funny. In the future you might want to remember that you were asking "dumb" questions yourself in the not so distant past and that had our mentality been as "survival of the fittest" as yours was here it might have cost you the lives of your pets.

So in short if your post don't help out in a way that is what we admire in thread that is asking a question best to leave the teaching to someone that can.

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Amen!

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Trying to think of a nice way to say this...but that's not very good advice...I think there's a little bit of sarcasm in there, though.

Ball pythons are imprint feeders and don't need any "variety" in their diet.

They get all the nutrients they'll ever need from a diet on one type of rodent prey.

Switching things up on them, including the type of prey, is not a good idea with ball pythons. Some handle it better than others (I have a bp that will eat mice or rats any time, any place), but it is generally a better to find one thing that works for you, whether it be mice, rats, gerbils, or elephants, and stick to it.

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Yes, I was kidding. Sorry, if I was out of line.

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Originally Posted by drew5337

Hmmm...elephants. Good bone density, so I'd imagine you'd see quick growth. Does RodentPro stock them yet?

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No. That's PachydermPro. :8:

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Originally Posted by drew5337

Hmmm...elephants. Good bone density, so I'd imagine you'd see quick growth. Does RodentPro stock them yet?

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They probably would, but the shipping is outrageous!

no not at all

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

my boa ate an elephant once... must have had a bad aftertaste as she only eats democrats now... :snake:

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: ahh thats goood stuff. lol

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Originally Posted by MelissaFlipski

If you want to give your BP some dietary variety, try gerbils. Then you can ask how to get the BP off of gerbils before you go broke. :D

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i've heard that gerbils are more defensive/aggressive towards bps- therefore, more dangerous...

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I have a low tolerence for dumb questions. Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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Um.. for one thing, there Are snakes out there that eat frogs. For another thing.. heck, when I was a beginner, I didn't know that BPs do not eat frogs. The person came here asking an honest question and I see no reason to call them DUMB. What would be dumb, would be for them not to ask.. and just assume it could be done.
Sigh.

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I have a low tolerence for dumb questions. Why would some one in thier right mind even consider feeding a frog to a Snake???

Let them do it, then 2 weeks later he can post and say "After I fed my snake the frog it died."

Myabe im an *******, but oh well. :rofl:

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:colbert: Have you ever thought that YOUR questions might appear dumb to other people too?
Yet I am sure people have help you and gave you answers that would not potentially harm your animal or cause additional problems, even though they might have thought that YOUR question were dumb.

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

Um.. for one thing, there Are snakes out there that eat frogs. For another thing.. heck, when I was a beginner, I didn't know that BPs do not eat frogs. The person came here asking an honest question and I see no reason to call them DUMB. What would be dumb, would be for them not to ask.. and just assume it could be done.
Sigh.

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I agree with Jen on this one too...
I read the entire thread and found lots of it pretty silly and funny stuff, but I think it's kinda sad cause the person that started the thread hasn't said anything since he/she asked the question in the first place.
So I think it was a question that this person really felt was important and wanted answered. But everyone seemed to say it was a stupid question and why would someone ask that...
Don't get me wrong I don't mean to rag you all out and some people did answer the question with some very good points about frogs but I hope if I ever ask a stupid question sometime in the future I don't experience that...
Just my :2cent:

ROCK ON!