Leopard!

Who else has pre-ordered the next major release of OSX? Ok I JUST ordered mine moments ago (been a long hard week) and it will be released tomorrow. It said it delivers on the 26th but I'm not so sure I'll get it that quick since I chose regular shipping.

Anyway I know there are long time mac users here so I thought I'd ask about it. Looks like many great new features and improvements. I'm starting to miss windows less and less accept for when I occasionally need to do some gaming but I haven't had time for that in forever.

I got a 5 pack that will be here this weekend. I still like my PCs though.

i really want to order my copy, but honestly i think i may need to upgrade my mac itself before i upgrade my software. besides, if do get a new machine it will come with leopard. of course, this is mostly wishful thinking as i don't really have the cash for a new machine at the moment. aah well, there's always christmas... :P

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Originally Posted by mlededee

i really want to order my copy, but honestly i think i may need to upgrade my mac itself before i upgrade my software. besides, if do get a new machine it will come with leopard. of course, this is mostly wishful thinking as i don't really have the cash for a new machine at the moment. aah well, there's always christmas... :P

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You always have the money for a PC with Vista :D

gah....So expensive. I went and customized my own Mac Pro on their web site and with my needs, i end up spending 5,000 for the low end mac pro....but I have to be honest...when I buy a mac, I will be confident that it will be the best money i've ever spent on a computer. I'm so sick of PC's going nutty on me.

I probably would not have my own mac if I had not purchased through work. They are expensive...and I got my mostly loaded at the time. The only thing more I could have had added to 15" macbook pro I have is another gig of memory but it just wasn't worth the extra cost for 3gb! I did upgrade it to a 7200rpm hard drive though...which apple offers as on option on the 15's now!

I run OSX and Vista simultaneously 5 days a week all day and it works very well for me. I use parallels to run Vista within OSX, really the only time I full boot into Vista (bootcamp) is when I want to play game.

Anyways! I'm looking forward to the OSX release!

i have one mac on unix and one windows machine and if you like your mac set up and are tired of windows go to unix or linux its got more of a learning curve but if you know macs you'll know linux

I ran linux for a while on my last laptop but I still need windows to run some software. Most of what I use windows for is user management tools, our email client, security camera system, and whatever requires windows. I have sorta been itching to try and get Linux running on my macbook pro but I'll be darned if I can find the time.

I am planning to format my pc that I use for my home theater system and running Linux as a media center. Having a pc with wireless highspeed dedicated to storing music and video and hooked up to 6.1 surround is the best $300 I've ever spent. I can play any movie or music I've ever downloaded or rented with a mouse click, and I can pull up internet videos and stream internet t.v., videos and radio in a split screen while sitting on my couch. Let's see the Apple fan boys beat that :D

Macs are very very well made computers, but the price just turns me away instantly. I used to sell computers a few years ago(CompUSA). I could buy a MAc Pro for around $2,799 or I could spend $1000 on an hp with twice the power and internal hardware of the Mac Pro. IMacs are beautiful if you have ever seen one. I would consider one of those over a laptop.

The other thing that bugs me too is all the incompatibility. Having to run boot camp or Parallels to use a lot of daily programs, doesn't seem worth it to me.

I still use XP and I was still selling computers around when Vista came out. It was nothing but horror stories, so I am still waiting.

I have yet to have any PC's go crazy on me, like everyone says.

PythonWallace: Ever heard of appleTV ?? LOL, I'll be honest I'm not THAT into apple products that I even know all the features of it. The macbook pro is the only apple product I use. Personally I would be in the same boat as you, I would rather have the flexibility of open source software for my media library. There are probably such applications for macs but unless your using their media appliance I don't see to many people being able to afford a "spare" mac and using it for media storage and delivery LOL -Just another personal preference having worked in networking as one of my many duties over the years I would still use good 'ole ethernet for anything delivering alot of data...especially media files.


Brimstone: Your point is well made...in your situation. What something is "worth" and how it applies to other situations varies infinitely. Being able to run OSX and Vista side by side couldn't be more perfect for me and my job. I need to be able access tools to support both mac and PC users on a daily basis. Before I got approval for the purchase of the macbook pro I run now I was always scratching my head for a good 5 minutes or more just trying to figure out or remember where something was in OSX. Now that I operate virtually simultaneously in both operating environments I am MUCH more efficient at addressing my user's issues. Granted you need to have a machine that can handle the work load and in my case I am very happy with the stability. When OSX is able to run on PC's/windows legally and without hacked up versions of OSX it will only make sense to revert back to the cheaper, more easily upgradeable hardware.

I'll say again...I'm no fanboi of either "side" I look at being able to efficiently use multiple operating systems as valuable skill in my career. In technology you don't gain employment by convincing someone that what you know is "better". You definitely increase your chances of employment by being flexible and diverse ;)

Even though this has gone WAY beyond what my original post was about...I think we all have our preferences and everyone's technological needs will vary and there are numerous options out there to fulfill them.

Yeah, I'm no fan boy of either side, either. I use both 5 days a week, and both are fine by me. I'd just rather spend a few hundred dollars for my personal use and be able to download what I need, than spending a few thousand dollars on a Mac and having to buy all the other Apple hardware and software. Apple can be used as a media server, but not for any amount that's even close to a dedicated Windows or Linux machine. We're not in the 3.1x days anymore. :)

One thing I do like about Macs is that the run bettwe with less than a PC. Windows is huge compared to OSX, which is why. If OSX becomes more standardized, I would probably get an IMac. god I love those things.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

You always have the money for a PC with Vista :D

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hells no i don't! i don't spend money on crap.

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Originally Posted by mlededee

hells no i don't! i don't spend money on crap.

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Oh common. You can get a refurb Compaq for like $150. Granted I don't have $150, but if you start saving you'll get there a lot faster than the $3k - $5k for a mac. :)

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Oh common. You can get a refurb Compaq for like $150. Granted I don't have $150, but if you start saving you'll get there a lot faster than the $3k - $5k for a mac. :)

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Well let me make mention that not all macs are 5k. As a multimedia junkie, I NEED performance and i damn sure need reliability! I have literally 20 applications open at once..and If things get going too much on a PC, i hear it scream like a little girl.

The computer I built was a Mac Pro, with 4 gigs of memory, a Quad core processor, 750 gb hard drive, 20" flat screen, and a lot of other little goodies...5 grand is a machine for straight up performance.

The things that others will do on a mac will not ever need that kind of power. A Macbook Pro is around 2,000, mac minis start at 599, iMacs start at 1199....I've spent more on snakes :rolleyes:

That's all true, but the cheapest thing you mentioned was a Mac Mini for $600. I bought one and maxed out the ram. It was a complete joke. A $600 Dell with the ram maxed will be 4x the performer the Mini is. I also run a $900 PC with OS 10x, and it runs just as good as my $3000 G5, for what I use it for.

To each their own :gj:

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

To each their own :gj:

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absolutely. i don't care how much macs cost--it's worth it to me. :)

i'm on leopard right now... and i love it.

there are 3 macs in my house, and no windows pc's. i can do everything i want to on my macs. i don't need windows for anything. compatibility is not an issue anymore. it's all about simplicity, plug and play.

example- you just buy a new printer. in windows you plug it in pop in the drivers and install them, restart, then try and print. with a mac you plug it in, go to file print, Voila!

i looooooove my macs. i am not a total fan of apple (iphone and itunes store suck at this moment), but i will own a mac till they start planting computers in our brains....

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Originally Posted by mlededee

absolutely. i don't care how much macs cost--it's worth it to me. :)

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To each his/her own. I'd just rather spend 10% of what I'd have to pay for a Mac, personally, for a nice PC.

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Originally Posted by Kagez28

i'm on leopard right now... and i love it.

there are 3 macs in my house, and no windows pc's. i can do everything i want to on my macs. i don't need windows for anything. compatibility is not an issue anymore. it's all about simplicity, plug and play.

example- you just buy a new printer. in windows you plug it in pop in the drivers and install them, restart, then try and print. with a mac you plug it in, go to file print, Voila!

i looooooove my macs. i am not a total fan of apple (iphone and itunes store suck at this moment), but i will own a mac till they start planting computers in our brains....

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I'm glad you looooove your Macs. The cheapest your family got off buying 3 Macs is like $6k. I would certainly hope they can function for you. I would never pay an extra few thousand dollars for plug and play simplicity. You act like Win XP isn't good w/ PnP. It is, even on a $150 machine. I did editing and video special effects for a multi million dollar feature film, all on a PC while the studio all used incredibally overpriced Macs. When they saw what I was able to do, the entire company switched from 100% Macs to 80% PCs, and bought me a $3,000 PC for my good work and showing them that Macs are a waste of money. Anyone whose seen Napoleon Dynimite know's Uncle Rico. His best friend is a cinematographer who used to live in Glenn Ellyn, IL., and he gave me the biggest hug I've ever seen when I showed him a trick that saved him over a hundred hours of B.S. work by making an applet on my used, $200 laptop, while he was grinding it out on a $11,000 Mac. Basically what I'm saying is:
1. the days of Win 3.1 are long gone.
2. During those days Macs were P.O.S and still expensive, w/out decent cheap sofware.
3. You can get a new PC with XP pro that will blow away any Mac that costs 2x or more than the PC.
4. PCs are no longer POS.
5. If you never learned DOS or anything since the 80's you might be better off with an overpriced PnP Mac system, but than you're not allowed to talk about Unix or Linux, unless you think they are the newest thing made for your $4k Mac. I can go on, but I don't care. I just hate seeing people acting like PCs are garbage, while Apple products are the only useful machines. I think a good rule of thumb is that any Mac is outmatched by any PC or Linux system that costs at least 50% of said Mac. Also, I've never run into anything that wasn't plug and play compatable with Win XP SP2. I still hate MS, but Apple never made much sense to me. The big reasons for using Macs in a professional environment were als\ways music production, movie editing and graphic design. I've used Macs and PCs for every aspect of these and Macs have nothing that explains the price tags over PCs.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I can go on, but I don't care. I just hate seeing people acting like PCs are garbage, while Apple products are the only useful machines.

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but that's kind of what you are doing, just the other way around...

i have used pcs for as long as i have used macs and for what i need to do (graphic/web design and some multimedia), i have to use a mac. i've had pcs that were equally equipped as the macs i had at the same time and they just couldn't do the work i needed them to do at the speed i needed to do it but that's just me--it doesn't mean it works that way for everyone. :)

Erg...there's a moderator AND an Admin participating in this topic and neither have have bothered to try and keep it on track!

Folks this topic was not meant to fight about PC vs Mac loyalty BS...


sheesh!

6K for three macs... yea right. i have a mac mini ($800) and me and my girlfriend both have macbooks ($1200 and $1100), which is nowhere near 6k.

i grew up with windows, i only got my first mac (the mini) in 2005. i just find the things i do the most, like music, photos, movies, browsing the web, maybe a game for chess, are nice and simple. not to mention the good looks of OS X...

and on a final note... if i really want/need to have windows, i don't need to spend $150 or what ever you said. my mac has boot camp, which will turn my mac in to a PC, all i got to do is buy a copy of XP.

I installed and played with Leopard on my work computer today and really enjoyed the new look and feel. Very nice :gj: