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i think Montys a girl!

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  • 10-15-2007, 06:06 AM
    rottendj
    i think Montys a girl!
    Hi everyone, since my last post about future breeding i went on a mission to find out the sex of Monty.
    a friend has corn snakes and showed me how to pop them, its simple and harmless if done gently/firmy/swiftly and said its the same for royals.
    i know a lot of people will say only get someone who has done it before on royals but i was 100% happy i could do it properly on my snake.

    i went home and examined this article ( http://www.vpi.com/publications/dete..._sex_of_snakes ) to check before i did it.

    after that i went and got monts out and did it with no problem, he didnt mind at all, he just wondered what i was doing with his bits :oops:

    now the problem i have is telling the difference between female and male! by looking at the two pics on the link above it looks like a female as i could see what looked like scent gland papillae, kind of like little ants eggs either side of the very slightly inverted cloaca.

    i would have taken a pic but didnt have a spare hand :cool:
    please can you let me know what it sounds like to you, it would be very very helpful.

    kind regards, mike...
  • 10-15-2007, 08:52 AM
    Het4Something
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    from what i hear "popping" is most affective with younger snakes..... the only way i find out my snakes sex is through probing.
  • 10-15-2007, 08:54 AM
    juddb
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    How old is he?
  • 10-15-2007, 10:06 AM
    rottendj
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    he or she is five and a half months old...
  • 10-15-2007, 10:08 AM
    juddb
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    I would get him probed to be sure....
  • 10-17-2007, 06:53 PM
    rottendj
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    i would get it probed but theres no one to do it near where i live.
    can anyone tell me exactly what should i should have seen when i popped it as the differences are supposedly small?
  • 10-18-2007, 05:34 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    Unfortunately my camera is down and out for the count. Perhaps one of our other members could pop a male and a female of about 6 months of age, take a clear picture of what is seen and post it for this member. Actually come to think of it that would make a good pictorial sticky wouldn't it....hand position for proper popping and so forth then what is seen on various ages and genders of snakes. Anyone up for it?
  • 10-18-2007, 06:44 AM
    rabernet
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Perhaps one of our other members could pop a male and a female of about 6 months of age, take a clear picture of what is seen and post it for this member.

    Robyn at ProExotics already has! :D

    http://www.proexotics.com/FAQ2.html#1
  • 10-18-2007, 09:50 AM
    rottendj
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    thats some excellent advice there but im still uncertain if my 6 month old BP is partially retaining its "bits"
    are the hemipenes red with blood on ALL males and are the glands white on all females?

    many thanks, Mike...
  • 10-18-2007, 10:39 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rottendj
    i would get it probed but theres no one to do it near where i live.
    can anyone tell me exactly what should i should have seen when i popped it as the differences are supposedly small?

    Popping adults is just as easy as popping babies IMO. If done properly popping and probing are both 100% accurite. The difference is pretty easy to see even if the hemipenes are not fully inverted. If you had a male you would know it.
  • 10-18-2007, 10:50 AM
    rottendj
    Re: i think Montys a girl!
    cheers pal, will have another looky when it comes out tonight :)
    will let ya'll know the verdict if i can decypher

    p.s. i now refer to monty as "it" as i dont know what "it" is :P
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