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Short/no quarantine
What is the general concensus for this: Would I be pretty safe pairing a male I've had since he was a hatchling with a new adult female, if I buy from a reputable breeder and get a fecal done on her when I get her? I want to try to breed my albino this year if I can find an adult het female for him at NARBC. What are your opinions on this?
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I Qt for 60 days even if all tests come back just because. I'd as get her and if you can get a late breeding in after the 60 days I'd say go for it.
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I quarantine any new animal regardless of the source (30 to 60 days) and would never jeopardize my collection because of being in the hurry to breed.
Breeding means patience ;)
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Cool, 2 months is definately doable. I thought everyone would tell me to wait untill next year. I'll get the new girls tested and as long as everything comes back negative, I'll just cycle them all and introduce them in December. That's not too late in the season, is it? I thought December-February were the prime copulation months anyway.
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I quarantine for 90 days regardless of the source..... :oops:
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I've seen so many horror stories concerning people that didn't quarantine their snakes... because they thought the snakes were from a reliable source, they were tested and came back clean, etc.
Maybe I've become a little bit paranoid because of it, but I think you should always quarantine, just to be safe. No sense risking two snakes---and possibly your entire collection---just because you were in a hurry!
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Originally Posted by PythonWallace
Cool, 2 months is definately doable. I thought everyone would tell me to wait untill next year. I'll get the new girls tested and as long as everything comes back negative, I'll just cycle them all and introduce them in December. That's not too late in the season, is it? I thought December-February were the prime copulation months anyway.
Yup, I started seeing lock ups, last year, in January and February.
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I didn't think there would be any way I could breed a new girl this year, as I've always quarantined for 6 months, and never considered doing less than 90 days. I have one breedable female that I've had for a year that I am going to breed. I am also going to breed the new mojave with the two new females in quarantine if the tests are neg., because they are all cbb from the same breeder, coming in the same box. I'll still probably wait 60 days to introduce them, though. Does any one see any problems with that?
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Just out of curiosity what could a snake be carrying that wouldnt be caught with a screening test? Not sure what everyone else considers quarentining but my snakes do not interact with eachother until I have tests done and theyve been in my care for atleast a month... If you dont see anything wrong and tests come back negative why do people wait so long? What could a snake have that couldnt be noticed in the first 30 days?
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Ever heard of IBD? 100% fatal in pythons, and not detectable in a typical screening by a vet...
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Also, getting it from an environment like a show is putting more risk of infection/harm.
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Yes ive heard of IBD but this is more common in boas than balls... Also if a ball has it ive read it usually passes away within a couple weeks.
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Originally Posted by JoshJP7
Just out of curiosity what could a snake be carrying that wouldnt be caught with a screening test? Not sure what everyone else considers quarentining but my snakes do not interact with eachother until I have tests done and theyve been in my care for atleast a month... If you dont see anything wrong and tests come back negative why do people wait so long? What could a snake have that couldnt be noticed in the first 30 days?
Some RI's can be dormant and then pop up when the animal is stressed. Also internal parasites may be in begining stages and still undectable from fecals. or a virus. It is always better safe than sorry. i agree with Deborah at least 30-60 days.
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Yes ive heard of IBD but this is more common in boas than balls... Also if a ball has it ive read it usually passes away within a couple weeks.
I have no experience with this, but I thought I'd read that IBD could incubate with no symptoms for as long as 3-6 months? Or does it show up sooner in some species than others?
Passing away within a couple of weeks once the symptoms onset sounds very likely to me. It sounds like a horrible disease.
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I didn't vote because I would think that my vote would be to get her, keep her in quarantine for 60 days (my quarantine procedure) and then just breed late. That's just my opinion so that you don't risk your collection, or even if you bred separate, your male you'd be breeding to her.
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I would quarantine for 3 months with clean tests--you'll still be able to get in at the end of the breeding season.
I quarantine animals from the same source together. In most cases, if they've been shipped, they arrive covered in pee because one of the snakes always lets loose in the shipping pox, and I feel pretty confident that if any of them had anything, they've all been exposed by the time they arrive. So, they get put in a group together away from the rest of the collection.
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Originally Posted by kc261
I have no experience with this, but I thought I'd read that IBD could incubate with no symptoms for as long as 3-6 months? Or does it show up sooner in some species than others?
Passing away within a couple of weeks once the symptoms onset sounds very likely to me. It sounds like a horrible disease.
IBD can lay dormant in Boa's for that long, but once it passes to Ball pythons (not sure about other pythons) it usually kills the BP around a week.
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ill admit there is afew that i gotfrom goodsourcesthati didnt quarantine, but they were from ppl ive dealt with many many many times in the past and they dont do imports or boas at all, unless it came from a show!
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