fires!!!!

im about ready to purchase a pair of fires, i know that they can do some cool stuff, does everyone here that knows a thing or two about fires think they are a good investment
thanks

and i was also wondering if anyone here has done buisness with Dan Wolfe

im probably getting them from him but the pics of them on his site dont look very much like fires but i could definitly be wrong

Fires make the Black eyed lucy's, which are awesome imo. Fires, like pastels, tend to clean up any morph. Also, some of the adult fires that I've seen (which were only 2-3 years old) tend to lighten as they age instead of dull.

Personally I would spend my money on Lessers over Fires. Something about a nice clean white snake that I like!

Do a search for Dan Wolfe on Fauna. He has a lot of good feedback.

the black eyed lucy is clean white too!

thanks guys i really like asking questions like that to people at this site i trust everyone here a lot and thats good to know.

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

the black eyed lucy is clean white too!

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Only one Black Eyed Lucy has been produced that doesn't have orange blotches.

Now if you had Photoshop you could definitely make them all white! :rockon:

Just my thoughts...

Lessers are nicer looking than fires
Lessers make a nicer looking super
Lessers are less expensive

Kind of a no brainer to me...but to each their own!

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Personally I would spend my money on Lessers over Fires. Something about a nice clean white snake that I like!

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Agreed or even better i would spend that money on a nice pair of butters.

In my humble opinion, fires have much more crossing potential then Lessers. I like the yellow blotching on the Black eyed Lucies.

Can the blotching be accentuated (sp?) with the Pastel or darkened with another mutation. Not sure that can be done with a Super Lesser?

We have a nice colony of lessers and I am also looking to acquire a pair of Fires in 08 :)

Marc

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In my humble opinion, fires have much more crossing potential then Lessers.

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My opinion (for whatever it's worth) is a little different ... mostly because I don't think of mutations as "competitors" ... lessers serve a purpose in making crosses ... fires serve an entirely different purpose ... depending on a breeders goals and what that breeder hope to produces, a lesser might be right for some and a fire right for others ... or maybe a combination of both. I personally like the lesser spider over the fire spider ... but I like the fire pastel over the lesser pastel ... can you imagine a lesser fire spider pastel? pure hotness!

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Originally Posted by RegiusCo.com

I like the yellow blotching on the Black eyed Lucies.

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I think that it's interesting, but when I set out to invest in a white snake project years ago, I chose to go with as pure of a white snake as I could ... a white snake to me is "all white" ... after I had the pure white snake project covered with lessers, fires were certainly on my list.

-adam

I agree, Adam. I don't think you can argue about the Lesser vs. Fire like you could with the Cinny vs. Black Pastel or even the Mojave vs. Lesser. The latter two are similar enough and produce similar combos that one can compare which one might "look better", but of course it's subjective. I think the Lesser and Fire produce completely different combos even though they can both produce Leucies.

So if you're in the market for either one, take a look at what your long term goals are and decide from there.

I agree with Adam on this one, it's really what you are shooting for. Fires and Lessers do make a Lucy, and even if some of the Black Eyeds have some yellow blotching, they are still totally killer animals. But as far as crossing potential, it's what you like best.

With the Fire/Pastel for instance, it comes out looking like a super pastel, even brighter looking in some cases, the animal continues to lighten up as it ages instead of dulling out a bit like normal pastels would. Now once you cross a Fire into a Bumblebee, or even a Pastel Pied, the snakes will continue to get better and better as they age. Which I would love to have a Bumblebee that never dulls out!

But then again, Lesser Bees and Lesser Pastels are still a couple of my favorite looking animals, the patterns and color mixes are just insane!:rolleye2:

Just my :2cent: To each their own. :rockon: