Labeling/Record keeping type of question

I was wondering how people labeled their cages. In pictures of snake rooms there are usually colored dot sticker things on the tub and I was wondering what those meant. Also, I was wondering how people “named” their hatchlings, ie what do you put in the id for each baby.

I use Degei software that has easy printing of cage cards so all my tubs are labled. Others use the dots to indicate feedings, breeding times, male/female, etc....but those people have their own system of knowing what each one means.


I don't name my hatchlings but each one is assigned a unique alpha-numeric tracking code that is placed on their tub (once they have their first shed and are sexed)

just find something that works for you. For me, I include the year sex and number of every animal in its id. most ppl have a variation on that theme, some also will include the clutch # in the id.

per example 06019_f-spider#004 = 2006 clutch #19 female spider #004 (4th female spider of 2006)

just find something that makes it simple for you to keep everything straight.

Justin

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I don't name my hatchlings but each one is assigned a unique alpha-numeric tracking code that is placed on their tub (once they have their first shed and are sexed)

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That is what I meant when I said naming; I just didn’t know what to call it. What goes into the tracking code?

Also, I have read a few things about writing on eggs. Can you write on eggs and if so, what kinds of pens are safe to use?

Thanks!!

Edit: Lol I was typing as you responded jkobylka

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Originally Posted by Ksovich

That is what I meant when I said naming; I just didn’t know what to call it. What goes into the tracking code?

Also, I have read a few things about writing on eggs. Can you write on eggs and if so, what kinds of pens are safe to use?

Thanks!!

Edit: Lol I was typing as you responded jkobylka

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It is called and ID #...in mine goes the year, animal number and sex (ie. 2007-14F) 14th female of this year.

As for righting on the eggs..why would you want to...unless you were mixed different clutches)? My egg boxes only contain 1 clutch each and the boxes themselves are labled with when they arrived, the clutch weight, due date and parents.

I use Degei also here is a pic of what my cage labels look like only in color. The program has another size cage card think its 5x7 this ones 4x6 i think. The 5x7 has more info on it.
Heres the pic of the cage card 4x6 and also the link where to find the program
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...gecards4x6.jpg

http://www.eyehit.com/degei/
Hope that helped.

are those printed on a sticker type paper, do you tape to the tub, or do you make a "folder" for it slide into?

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Originally Posted by FIREball

are those printed on a sticker type paper, do you tape to the tub, or do you make a "folder" for it slide into?

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The software has 2 sizes of cage cards (5x7, 4x6 and what they call a cage label (which is basically the same but no picture so it alot smaller)

You could use sticker paper and attach them that way if you want. I got those magnet picture frames and put a magnet strip on all my tubs...so now the cards are placed in side these flexible frames. The benefit is I can easily move them around with the snake as needed (like cleaning tubs, or in pairing them, etc.)

I just stick them to the tub with tape. I would think you could get some kind of sticky paper and print it on. I print these out once a month for all the snakes. Then just switch them with the ones on the tubs. Ive been trying to find the little plastic holder type things that will stick on the tub so i dont have to stick the label on the tub. But i havent been able to find them yet. The info on the cards is always changing everytime i feed or they get weighed. Thats why i change them once a month to keep things kind of up to date. The bigger 5x7 ones look like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...gecards5x7.jpg

These labels im not sure i would stick on the cage like a sticker. Then you have to try to get them off when you want to put a new one on. If you just want to stick on an id number id get a few pages of blank mailing labels and put an id number on them.Then just stick those to the tub/cages. That way you dont have all that sticky crap thats left behind by stickers.

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Originally Posted by ama1997

Ive been trying to find the little plastic holder type things that will stick on the tub so i dont have to stick the label on the tub. But i havent been able to find them yet. .

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Not sure you have them but I found mine at a store called the Hobby Lobby. It is a big craft store.

Ill have to check around here and see. Theres not much around here other than a walmart. They didnt have them. I forgot about the cage labels. I use the 4x6 cage cards. But heres the cage labels.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._avery5164.jpg

Thank you for the picture, it does help tons. I don’t have the full version yet but I will defiantly have to upgrade.

What are the plastic holders that you have called? I think that the magnet is a fabulous idea!

I was at office depot and found clear holders.

Heres another program. Its free takes a bit to get working. I think theres alot more to it. But alot harder to get set up. The other link i gave you for the degei. That one is a free demo but to unlock it you have to pay for it. This one is free. But to me alot harder to use.But does have alot of stuff the degei doesnt have.
http://www.metzcal.com/

i just downloaded both of the advised programs and i prefer the look of degei for the fact that its simpler and i dont need the extra functions.

i do however have a few records already incorporated in the download which i cant delete.
does anyone know how do get rid of them?

thanks, Mike...

I use business card software. I put the name, sex,hatch date, species, morph and the dame and sire on it. I also put a small picture of the morph on it for kicks. I have business card protectors that have a self stick back on them and stick it to their tub. I keep all the other info like feedings, sheds and the excrement on a spreedsheet.

Mine's a little longer than others but I got the idea from Adam. First 3 letters of the morph (or nor if its normal. i.e. Possible Het Pied would be poshetpie) then a dash and M or F dash year of birth dash sequential #. For adults that come in I keep track of the last number I used. For hatchlings I start fresh every year at 01. So something like ALB-M-06-30. It works for me. I put a brother p-touch label on every tub and I use index cards to track feeding so the ID goes on there as well. Wow that was some rambling...

I haven't got into the computer record keeping, although it looks pretty cool! My hatchlings get code letters which help identify parents, for example I hatched a clutch from reduced pattern and a pastel. So all the hatchlings are RP then a number(1-5) for 5 hatchlings them M or F for sex then the year 07. Adults are named and numbered. I use colored stickers on my tubs so I can identify at a glance what snake and sex. I use blue dots for boys and yellow for girls and write in names, codes or initials. I leave a red dot on a tub if a feeder(usually dead) had been left in there so I don't overlook it(stinky). Sometimes a green dot sometimes if in shed or some other side note.Tubs with 2 dots(yellow and blue) means breeding pairs. On my cards i keep track of feeding sizes/dates, shedding dates,weights, dates put with breeding partner, ovulation date(if I see it) and dates of medication if needed. I think thats about it.

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Originally Posted by rottendj

i just downloaded both of the advised programs and i prefer the look of degei for the fact that its simpler and i dont need the extra functions.

i do however have a few records already incorporated in the download which i cant delete.
does anyone know how do get rid of them?

thanks, Mike...

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I think you have to have the full program before you can delete them. I cant remember for sure. You can try go to edit then down to delete current record (master and all detail records). You will have to do that for each record that you want to delete. There might be a faster way to do all of them at once but im not sure. Think i just went through and deleted each one. Hope that helped some. I like degei one better too easier to use. Dont have to do alot to set it up like the other. The other one does have alot of stuff i would like to see in degei but not that big of a deal.

I also use Degei. I just print the cage cards out on ordinary paper, and use a small piece of scotch tape to attach them to the bins. This doesn't leave any stickiness behind when peeled off again. No need to have a big card when it's just going to get reprinted every week.

Degei isn't very expensive, so I just bought the full version. That unlocks all of the locked features (such as the rack tool and the ability to delete records, including the sample records).

yeah i definately cant delete the existing records, thats not a problem but when i tried putting in an old date of 19/05/2007 it wouldnt let me. as you know the its format is to put the day, then a number for the month and automatically comes up with it in words, and then the year. however it wont allow me to have a day over 12.
i guess i'll have to get the full program unless anyone knows whats wrong :confused:

Sounds like your transposing the day and month. Remember it's an American program and they go month/day/year. Canada and the UK usually go day/month/year if I remember correctly.

i dont think so as i simply enter the data it asks for, there is no other way of entering it!
p.s. May automatically appears and not " 05 "
heres a record entry screen shot of what it pops up with:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...screenshot.jpg

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Originally Posted by rottendj

i dont think so as i simply enter the data it asks for, there is no other way of entering it!
p.s. May automatically appears and not " 05 "
heres a record entry screen shot of what it pops up with:

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Are you physically typing in the date? If so you why and you don't need to...that little down arrow next to the date spot when clicked brings up a calendar that you simply click the date you want and it enters it correctly for you. Also, when you first start the program (each day) you set the date....so there is no need to change it once inside the program.

Hi,


Like this;

http://www.satanswombat.pwp.blueyond...ets/degei3.JPG

I only have the trial version just now though - still using notebooks and can't face transfering everything across.:)


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