Yellowbelly or Normal?

So I loaned my S.O. my copy of "The Ball Python Manual" and she thinks that Patches may be a yellowbelly. Here is what the book says about the yellowbelly morph:

"This is one of the true mystery snakes as it is difficult to recognize unless you can trace the parentage. Most of its external markers are variable at best. Generally, there is a light spot on the center of the top of the head that may be either quite visible or obscure. The eyes are dark as seen in the wild type ball, and the tongue is pale. The neck, back, and tail patterns are also normal, but some specimens have a brighter yellow color. Look at the ventral and side coloration for your confirmation: the yellowish or whitish patternless belly forms 'triangles' of color intrusion into the side pattern, and a speckled appearance is sometimes apparent.
In order to determine if a snake that you suspect is a yellowbelly is indeed a yellowbelly, it must be bred to either another yellowbelly or to a normal snake. If a true yellowbelly is bred to a normal ball, approximately halve of the babies will be yellowbellies. If two yellowbellies are bred together, then one out of four babies will be a super yellowbelly (ivory) also confirming the heritage."

Obviously, from that, I'll never know unless I decide to test-pair her, but I'd like opinions. I'm not asking for a sure answer... I just want to see what people think. Here are some various pictures of Patches from different angles (hands provided by my roommate).

Here is a shot from the top:


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P8250005a.jpg

This is the best tongue shot I could get:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P9100004b.jpg




I take that back. THIS is the best tongue shot I could get:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P9100002c.jpg




Here is a side-pattern shot:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P9100003d.jpg




Tummy shot:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P9100006e.jpg




And here, you can see the lighter spot on the top of the head:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3.../P9100007f.jpg




So what do you think? All opinions are appreciated. I'm also posting this on the Cornsnakes forums (where I'm much more active), so if you're on both, please only vote on one.

As a side note, we are betting on this, of course. Don't ask the terms of the bet. :D

Nope, not a Yellowbelly. Very pretty, clean patterned normal though :)

not a yb. but very pretty!

Justin

Here you go check this out

http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgyb.htm

Ah.... That helps.

ill have to agree and say yes, cats do rule!

but dont think it's a yellow belly...

Nope nope nope.. Very cute though!

Normal... cute snake though.

The YBs have such distinct belly patterning that they are hard to miss once you know what you are looking for.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Loft Lizard

Normal... cute snake though.

The YBs have such distinct belly patterning that they are hard to miss once you know what you are looking for.

Bruce

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The last time someone posted on this was September of last year. Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by darkangel

The last time someone posted on this was September of last year. Just sayin.

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logs!

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Originally Posted by darkangel

The last time someone posted on this was September of last year. Just sayin.

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For whatever reason it was on my front page... i'll be sure to check the dates from here on out.

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Originally Posted by Loft Lizard

For whatever reason it was on my front page... i'll be sure to check the dates from here on out.

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Someone probably dug up the old poll and voted on it. That'll pop a thread back up to the top of the active list. I closed the poll on this one, since its obviously served its purpose.

i voted for normal. i just got mine and she doesnt look nothing like that. very hot normal tho.