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Keeping beardie outdoor

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  • 09-20-2007, 06:56 PM
    iloveherps
    Keeping beardie outdoor
    Hello everyone,

    I`m not actually a new member, but I re registered because I forgot my password and can`t seem to be able to re log in with a new one.

    Anyways... I had a beardie that passed away due to UVB deficiency, that was almost two years ago now.

    I`m thinking of keeping a beardie again and would like to know if it`s ok if I keep it outdoors with regular sunlight and natural photoperiod. Temps will constantly be between 80-90F and humidity never below 50%. ( I live in the tropics ). Would it get sufficient UVB and would the valuable UVB rays be blocked by the glass?

    Look forward to hear any input and many thanks in advance.

    Cheers
  • 09-20-2007, 07:53 PM
    bigjerm
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iloveherps
    Hello everyone,

    I`m not actually a new member, but I re registered because I forgot my password and can`t seem to be able to re log in with a new one.

    Anyways... I had a beardie that passed away due to UVB deficiency, that was almost two years ago now.

    I`m thinking of keeping a beardie again and would like to know if it`s ok if I keep it outdoors with regular sunlight and natural photoperiod. Temps will constantly be between 80-90F and humidity never below 50%. ( I live in the tropics ). Would it get sufficient UVB and would the valuable UVB rays be blocked by the glass?

    Look forward to hear any input and many thanks in advance.

    Cheers

    I know that a beardie will benefit from the suns natural uvb, but they need a basking spot of about 103 degrees, also you have to think about the night drop. you dont want it to get below 75 degrees. Also DO NOT put any animal out side in a glass cage!!!!! It will literally cook them. Hope this helps.....jerm
  • 09-20-2007, 08:19 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    I live in Southern California and have kept beardies out side in the summer. I would recommend a screen type cage and many hide spots. The sun is the best UV but your beardie will spend alot of the time out of the sun relaxing in the shade. Since reptiles cannot control their body temprature they need to go in shady areas to relax. I would not let a baby beardie get under 70-75 degrees but an adult beardie can get down to 60 degrees with no ill side effects. I have also kept beardies in a green house for years with lows in the 60's with no ill side effects. But once again this is for mature established adult beardies. I would still have an indoor enclosure for when there is inclement weather but I have found my beardies enjoy thier outdoor enclosures much more than the indoor ones. Some days they may act real antsy and when I put them outside they relax and enjoy the scenery. Don't forget lots of hides and a nice perch and a sceen type enclosure, glass will cook them.
  • 09-20-2007, 08:29 PM
    bigjerm
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    I would also be carefull of lightning bugs (fireflies) they are deadly to beardies. Not sure if you have them in your area. Just a pre-caution.
  • 09-21-2007, 05:25 PM
    iloveherps
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Thanks for all the advice.

    I have a 4ft glass cage by exo-terra with a net on top, it`s the same cage that I used to house my previous beardie which died when it was 1 year old.

    I plan on putting the cage on my front porch which is covered so it won`t be exposed to direct mid day sun but will get some direct sunlight in the early evening when the sun sets, you know the yellowy sunlight. I do have a basking light but I`d most likely only switch it on for 1-2 hours and I`d have to monitor the temps closely if I do place the cage outside.
    I`m also thinking of maybe having a 30minute daily session free in the yard, like taking your dog for a walk kind of thing.
    Daytime temps 80-90F, night 70F. And there are no fireflies where I live, only mosquitoes lol.

    The reason I`m thinking of placing the enclosure outside is because I can only find uva lights and I can`t find any uvb lights where I am... believe it or not. I still get very sad everytime I think of my previous beardie and I`m so afraid of MBD, I`ve learned a lot and I just want to make sure I get everything right this time.

    So what do you all think, ok to keep it outside?

    Thanks.
  • 09-21-2007, 11:12 PM
    dr del
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Hi,

    Could you possibly order the uvb lights over the net?


    dr del
  • 09-22-2007, 12:04 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Here are some bulbs from Bean Farm. The mercury bulbs put out lots of UV. This should cure your problem.
    http://www.beanfarm.com/store/agora....ng&user4=Bulbs

    The reptisun 10. bulbs are really good too!
  • 09-22-2007, 01:50 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    i would hesitate to house it outside... especially since the rays don't properly penetrate the screen and they don't penetrate the glass. this is why you are supposed to place your lights INSIDE your enclosure for beardies.

    here's our free instructions on how to make an enclosure for beardies... the link page may have some helpful info for you.

    http://www.timelessspirit.com/enclosure.html
  • 09-25-2007, 01:45 AM
    iloveherps
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    I just felt a bit silly to order online and get it shipped halfway round the world. So I thought of keeping it outdoors with natural uv eventhough I actually prefer to house it indoors.

    And I had some doubts on the screen glass blocking some of the rays, so thanks for clearing it up.

    Well I guess I may still be ordering online afterall then.

    Again, really appreciate it guys and thanks for the links.
  • 09-25-2007, 11:57 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    what's silly about caring for you pet properly? taking the time and effort to make sure it'll have a long healthy happy life?

    i call that responsible and mature... not sily!
  • 09-27-2007, 02:20 AM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    what's silly about caring for you pet properly? taking the time and effort to make sure it'll have a long healthy happy life?

    i call that responsible and mature... not sily!

    Agreed! :) Heck, I'd order online and have it shipped 3 blocks if need be for the health of my animals. If you live in an area where UVB bulbs are hard to come by, ordering on line is simply a luxury and need not be thought of as silly or a waste of time. ;)

    Do whatever you need to do to ensure that you don't have a repeat and that you'll be able to enjoy a beardie for years to come. I wish I had the time for one.
  • 09-27-2007, 06:43 AM
    iloveherps
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shadowspider
    Agreed! :) Heck, I'd order online and have it shipped 3 blocks if need be for the health of my animals. If you live in an area where UVB bulbs are hard to come by, ordering on line is simply a luxury and need not be thought of as silly or a waste of time. ;)

    Do whatever you need to do to ensure that you don't have a repeat and that you'll be able to enjoy a beardie for years to come. I wish I had the time for one.

    Yes I agree with you both. Actually, I have never ruled out online purchase but what I meant was I thought it was a bit silly to order and ship something as simple as light bulb from halfway around the world.

    But yes I shouldn`t take any chances on health issues.
    Thanks again guys.
  • 09-27-2007, 10:45 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Keeping beardie outdoor
    and you can order a few of the bulbs at once... to cut down on future shipping costs ;)

    also, have you approached the stores in your area and asked them if they can special order it in? mine do that for me all the time.
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