Breeding two morphs

if i had money to buy two morphs for breeding purposes what would you suggest buying?

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Originally Posted by martyb

if i had money to buy two morphs for breeding purposes what would you suggest buying?

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What you like and what you dream of hatching out in the future and of course what you can afford.

Everyone have their own favorite, the question is what is yours?

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Originally Posted by martyb

if i had money to buy two morphs for breeding purposes what would you suggest buying?

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I know I'm going to sound like a broken record...but I have to say it. You should buy whatever YOU like. If you want to get into combos, figure out what really excites you and is likely to keep you excited over the years and years it may take to bring such a project about.

There is SO much involved in successfully combining morphs, it should be a project that you don't HAVE to ask someone else's opinion about. Know what you want....know what it takes to create that (which morphs)...and then figure out how exactly you plan on going about obtaining those morphs and keeping them and their offspring for years to come.

If you don't know what to get then you haven't done enough research!

With that out of the way I think female pastels are a great foundation for great combos.

As far as what else think what you want to take care(clean poop, feed, vet bills etc..) of for the next 20+ years. You are young take your time and do your homework so you will always be happy with your decisions. I buy what I like not what anyone else thinks or likes.

i was thinking of bumblebees which are pastelXspider ? :confused:

i guess what i was asking was what would you do as i dont really know of many combos or how to make them
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Originally Posted by martyb

i was thinking of bumblebees which are pastelXspider ? :confused:

i guess what i was asking was what would you do as i dont really know of many combos or how to make them
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Yes, bumble bees are pastels x spiders.

Whole books have been written on the subject of morphs and their combos. Any of us could list a couple of examples, but we couldn't begin to touch on them all. This is where YOU need to dig in and research and learn. There are many great websites that have excellent genetic and morph info on them. There's lots of threads here that discuss any numbers of combinations...many of them achieved with pictures to show...some as yet still dreamed of.

The only way to really learn this stuff is to just dig in and read read read.

ok thank you for the advice and have you got any websites that are good for different combos and have you got a link to a page that explains the gene system co dom reces ETC? thank you im just dreaming for later on when i got a job and a house/flat of my own so i go plenty of research time
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Originally Posted by JLC

Yes, bumble bees are pastels x spiders.

Whole books have been written on the subject of morphs and their combos. Any of us could list a couple of examples, but we couldn't begin to touch on them all. This is where YOU need to dig in and research and learn. There are many great websites that have excellent genetic and morph info on them. There's lots of threads here that discuss any numbers of combinations...many of them achieved with pictures to show...some as yet still dreamed of.

The only way to really learn this stuff is to just dig in and read read read.

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I agree 100% and you will have a great time learning them too. I would recomend The Barkers' book "Ball python's of the World Volume 2" or Kevin McCurley's book "The Complete Ball Python". They will knock your socks off and give you great combo ideas and lots of great pics :carrot:

Do you breed a mojave with a bumblebee to make a killerbee
and do you think going down the bee route would be a good way to go and also can you make an albino bumble or kiler?

I'd go with a lesser and a chocolate... or a lesser and a super chocolate :)

Hi,


Here are some good links to pictures and info on combo's.

Nerds morphs page.

Ralph davis's proven/unproven/designer page.

Reptimanias morph page.


And here's a good page which should help understanding the basic genetic outcomes.



dr del

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Originally Posted by martyb

Do you breed a mojave with a bumblebee to make a killerbee

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No, a killer bee is a super pastel/spider. A bumblebee is a pastel/spider.

go for a lesser and a mojave

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Originally Posted by GirDance

I'd go with a lesser and a chocolate... or a lesser and a super chocolate :)

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GirDance, do you know if that cross has been done yet and if so what it looked like?

thanks for the unfo any more?

and what do mojaves breed with to get a good combo?

I say make your own combo...even with the affordable morphs I am pretty sure their are a couple combos that havent been done or at least havent made it mainstream.

Here is one...pastel x mojave x spider = Pastavebee i would assume.

mojo x mojo! Get more mojos, and possibly a white snake!

I'd go mojo X mojo too but it looks like mojo X cinnamon might also be an interesting pair based on the Brian Sharp animal that was reported to be lesser X black pastel. The ingredients would be related but not the same so your results might be different but I bet still nice. Even here that pair would cost at least $600.

Fires are even more expensive here but maybe cheaper in the UK since they originated there? Still I'm sure more but I really like the fire pastel as a combo. Could maybe one up that by throwing stripe in it or something but that would be a major long project.