Iris sweater rack from RBI

Anyone with experience with these... what type of heating should I get. Back heat or belly heat? I heard they use back heat and they "say" it's better than belly heat. Also, they offer 80 watt flexwatt and recommend it for rooms that may be below 74 degrees. During the winter, it will definitely be in the 70s from time to time.

Is it MANDATORY that I get the 80 watt, or can I get the 40 watt standard and just rely on my helix backed up by a ranco. I'm not entirely sure.

Thanks for the click guys.

I have 8 of these racks. I love them. They all have belly heat. I have a tempeture controlled room for the snakes, The ambient temp stays at 83. I use the common 40 watt flex with helix therms..I usually get 83 on the cool side and 92 on the warm side....I wouldn't let the room get that cold in the winter unless you rig up some additional flex for the cool side and run it on another helix...or you can get an oil filled space heater and heat the room up a bit...

well the thing is that, no one is usually in the house during the middle of hte days, so the heat is off in the house. Gas bills can be very expensive in New York. Should I get the 80 watt installment since that's what they recommend for cold rooms?

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Originally Posted by dotc0m

well the thing is that, no one is usually in the house during the middle of hte days, so the heat is off in the house. Gas bills can be very expensive in New York. Should I get the 80 watt installment since that's what they recommend for cold rooms?

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I understand the expensive gas bills..(I'm in north jersey now..originally from Yonkers NY...) BUT...your snake is always home....You can try the 80 watt..I'm not too familiar with it, but if it has to heat the entire tub, your hot end might be too hot inorder to sufficiently heat the cooler end....

Does the flexwatt run on the inner part of the rack? I was planning on using a divider that they have for options, and put two small pythons in one tub.

It runs across the back. I use the dividers also..They are great!

would it be possible if I just placed maybe a bath towel to cover the front on the cold cold days of NY, so it may hold in some heat?

I think that would work, and I can just get the regular 40watt flexwatt

That might work, but would cut down on their fresh air flow...

well since all the tubs now have their own flexwatt, I may just double up on the flexwatt during the winter time, and that should work like a charm. Thanks for helpin me figure it out =)

I think ball pythons are illegal in New York. Don't let the man find out. :eek:

No BP's are not illegal in NY City as far as I can tell from reading of the final bill. Burmese pythons, reticulated pythons, etc. are. Here is a link regarding this bill with a pdf on the final bill. Unless I'm reading it wrong, I cannot see p. regius mentioned anywhere on this particular law. According this this link a Tom Hudak was instrumental in keeping ball pythons off the list even when the lawmakers kept trying to include them.

http://scalesandtails.com/ban_exotic.html

That's agreeing with the last post. BP's are NOT illegal in NYC. Also, I live outside the city, in one of the three burroughs, so I'm sure the same rules apply.

Won't all 5 boroughs be considered "the City"....

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That's agreeing with the last post. BP's are NOT illegal in NYC. Also, I live outside the city, in one of the three burroughs, so I'm sure the same rules apply.

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Jo, that link you quoted is NY State. NYC makes their own laws.

BPs are most definitely illegal in NYC. This includes all 5 boroughs (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten Island)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...healthcode.pdf

It is definitely stupid that they include all snakes in the Pythonidae family and Boidae family but what can you do?

That can't be right, because Petco sells ball pythons in the middle of NY city, and so does my local petland store. That must be an interpretation.

Also I know there are some local NY'ers on this forum as well, and we discussed how it was legal as well. I do see where you say all Python stuff, but if they're in the chain stores... it must something else.

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That can't be right, because Petco sells ball pythons in the middle of NY city, and so does my local petland store. That must be an interpretation.

Also I know there are some local NY'ers on this forum as well, and we discussed how it was legal as well. I do see where you say all Python stuff, but if they're in the chain stores... it must something else.

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When is the last time you saw a Ball Python in a store in NYC? I lived in the city for years and in fact lived there when the ban went into effect. I have not seen one since.

I just called the Union Square Petco and was told that NO Petco sells them in NYC due to the laws.

You'll get the same answer from Petland (although they close at 9pm so I couldn't get any on the phone)

Does that include Long Island as well?

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Does that include Long Island as well?

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No. Long Island is governed by the rules of NY State. Only the 5 boroughs are bound by the laws in the pdf I linked.

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Jo, that link you quoted is NY State. NYC makes their own laws.

BPs are most definitely illegal in NYC. This includes all 5 boroughs (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten Island)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...healthcode.pdf

It is definitely stupid that they include all snakes in the Pythonidae family and Boidae family but what can you do?

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Wow thanks Jamie. I never wanted to live in NYC but now I surely won't. It's amazing that a single city can just basically over-ride it's own state laws isn't it.

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Wow thanks Jamie. I never wanted to live in NYC but now I surely won't. It's amazing that a single city can just basically over-ride it's own state laws isn't it.

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Keep in mind, that single city is almost half the population of the entire state. I am pretty sure that this is the only state of this size where a single city even comes close to that high of a percentage of the total population. I do understand the ban of large constrictors in NYC. NYC is a huge metropolitan area where the majority of people live in apartment buildings. I think there are definitely some safety concerns that don't apply to rural areas. Unfortunately the lawmakers weren't smart enough or didn't care enough to make distinctions within the Pythonidae and Boidae families.

I do forget about NYC being that sort of mega-city and I do agree that they probably needed some sort of restrictions on certain pets in that kind of over-crowded, apartment dwelling society. Too bad though that they obviously either didn't do the research or disregarded expert opinions on what snakes to include. I may be wrong but I swear Robin mentioned something about corn snakes being illegal where she lives.

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I do forget about NYC being that sort of mega-city and I do agree that they probably needed some sort of restrictions on certain pets in that kind of over-crowded, apartment dwelling society. Too bad though that they obviously either didn't do the research or disregarded expert opinions on what snakes to include. I may be wrong but I swear Robin mentioned something about corn snakes being illegal where she lives.

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I agree. As far as Corn Snakes and Georgia, I believe it has to do with the fact that they are a native species.

http://georgiawildlife.dnr.state.ga....nt=6&txtPage=2

Some corn snakes are illegal to keep in NJ also.

"Corn Snakes are an Endangered Species in the state of New Jersey. Possession or sale of any other color morphs,other that those listed could result in fines, penalties and/or possible revocation of your permit.

The only color morphs that are legal to possess and/or sell are the following:
Red Albino (Amelanistic), Butter ,Snow, Pearl, Lavender, Blizzard ,Creamsicle, Sun Glow, Candy Cane
ANY OTHER COLOR MORPH IS ILLEGAL TO SELL. VIOLATION OF THIS REGULATION WILL RESULT IN PENALTIES, FINES AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT RAMIFICATIONS."

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Some corn snakes are illegal to keep in NJ also.

"Corn Snakes are an Endangered Species in the state of New Jersey. Possession or sale of any other color morphs,other that those listed could result in fines, penalties and/or possible revocation of your permit.

The only color morphs that are legal to possess and/or sell are the following:
Red Albino (Amelanistic), Butter ,Snow, Pearl, Lavender, Blizzard ,Creamsicle, Sun Glow, Candy Cane
ANY OTHER COLOR MORPH IS ILLEGAL TO SELL. VIOLATION OF THIS REGULATION WILL RESULT IN PENALTIES, FINES AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT RAMIFICATIONS."

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Some interesting info, Sam! I never knew that (probably because I never wanted a Corn Snake).

All sorts of interesting info is listed in your NJ animal dealer/wholesaler permit package. ;)

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All sorts of interesting info is listed in your NJ animal dealer/wholesaler permit package. ;)

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Yeah, that thing! I'll have to dig mine out and read up! :eek: