Boy, do I feel used

I was contacted recently by a person who wanted to buy one of my pieds. Said he was just starting out, trying to build his collection, absolutely loved a certain pied I had pictured, would be a big part of his collection if he could get it but he couldn't afford the retail price I was asking. After talking with him a few times, he offered a reduced price and I agreed based on his circumstances and the potential that he would return in the future as a satisfied customer.

I shipped yesterday for arrival today. Not more than 1 hour after he picked up the pied from FedEx he had it listed on Kingsnake as a "Gorgeous '07 Female Pied" for hundreds more than he paid.

I know its business and I agreed to the sale, but boy do I feel used. Right now I feel like I should never give anyone a break in the future based on their "story". . .

What an a hole!!! Is it somebody you've seen on kingsnake before?

That's terrible. :mad: I guess it goes to show that there are just as many bad buyers out there as bad sellers. Thanks for relaying the story, though. I'll definitely steer clear of this person if I ever see one of his ads.

Oh you best believe miss Ansli A Pemberton would find a way to let people know about that. That is completely and 100% unacceptable. No matter if he paid the agreed price, you lowered your inital estimate because of a LIE to earn him profit.

it burns me up that people do that crap and inturn hurt the real people who might need a deal later on.

Prehaps you could post a Sellers Beware on the BOI? i'm sure they'd love that. :P

Oh Alice, that sucks! I am so sorry that happened to you!

Amazing what people would do :mad: .

Alice remember you were just trying to put someone's dream bp into their collection. Con artist will alway's get what's coming to them.

You went out of your way to cut someone some slack, and it turns around to bite you in the butt. I'm so sorry Alice. Karma will hopefully return and smack them upside the head ten fold!

Alice, that's beyond disgusting to take advantage of you like that. You do this person a favor from the goodness of your heart, a favor mind you that cost you money and this is the thanks you get! I'd certainly do a BOI thread if you have the documentation and want to expose this idiot for the flipper and liar he so obviously is! Sure you can sell any snake you own but seriously, this is just awful. :mad:

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Message about: Gorgeous '07 Female Pied
From: clutch_pig@hotmail.com

Way to appreciate an act of generocity.

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That sucks...and is just plain wrong.


Maybe we should all email him and string him along for awhile...sort of payback for being an arse. ;)

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

That sucks...and is just plain wrong.


Maybe we should all email him and string him along for awhile...sort of payback for being an arse. ;)

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LOL, that was my thought.

My thought too. He's got an email ;)

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Originally Posted by Royalherper

LOL, that was my thought.

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that. is. really. low.

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

My thought too. He's got an email ;)

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Make that 2 :sweeet:

Here was my return e-mail:

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I understand where you are coming from. I have since emailed alice and apoligized if i have offended her. I already took the ad down. The snake is not being sold. i do really appreciate what she did for me and i will maintain my word that i will be a returning customer... if she will allow it. I didn't mean to offend anyone... it was an honest mistake and i hope to make it right.

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An honest mistake???????

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Originally Posted by ladywhipple02

An honest mistake???????

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that's exactly what i was gonna say! u beat me to it! umm... so, alice... whaddaya say? he wants to do business with u again...

Alice, that is just frustrating...very frustrating.

However, I urge all of us to look at this from a different perspective....I recently had a friend spend a decent amount of money on some ball pythons..some things came up and he is forced to sell days after receiving them.

Now, i know that's not the same as one hour after...that's just shady IMO. He did apologize to her, and he has taken the ad down. He was also honest with me about who produced the pied.

It's nice that he apologized but the mistake part is hilariou's.

A mistake LOL, I dont think it would have still been a mistake if no one noticed. He would have just sold it off.

Thanks everyone! It really made me feel better after reading your comments.

I received an email from this person at 9:27 (about 45 minutes after I posted this thread). He said "You haven't been duped. I didn't mean to offend you. I had second thoughts this morning and have since changed my mind. The ad is no longer up. You were a great person to deal with and like i said, i will be a returning customer. I hope i have not offended you as i do hope to have a continuing relationship with you in the future." I have to wonder how much of his reaction was based on the quick action/questions by my ball-pythons.net friends.

I am chaulking this one up as another learning experience. I refuse to let this alter the way I do business in the future. I love to work with ball python enthusists buy that first or second ball that they've fallen in love with and just have to have. I was momentarily p*&sed off, but you guys have helped me remember there are great people in this hobby! :blowkiss:

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Originally Posted by Alice

I am chaulking this one up as another learning experience. I refuse to let this alter the way I do business in the future. I love to work with ball python enthusists buy that first or second ball that they've fallen in love with and just have to have. I was momentarily p*&sed off, but you guys have helped me remember there are great people in this hobby! :blowkiss:

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good for you! no harm, no foul i guess!

Alice,

It is good karma on your part, no matter what he decides to do/not do. We need more people like you in this world, trust me ;)

I would try not to let this person be an example of the majority of people out there. Hopefully you will one day be able to do a favor for someone without being too apprehensive because of this.

There are many great people in this hobby and I am glad that this experience will not affect how you do business. I am sorry that this happened to you! I can understand about having second thoughts, but I would at least give it some time and see what the animal is like, and then if I decided that it wasn't the one for me, I would have at least spoken to you/the breeder about it. Some people...... Unfortunately it is people like him that can ruin it for others, and that is such a shame.

A mistake? Oh please...I may have been born...but it wasn't just yesterday! This person sells Alice a sob story to get a pied at a reduced price, receives it, unpacks it and posts it within hours for sale at a nice little profit. Sorry folks, that's a con in my books and one that was planned prior to the snake's arrival quite likely. Personally I wouldn't do business with this type of person. I don't need to be ripped off and I wouldn't want one of our snakes flipped like that so somebody can pocket some easy cash (let alone the worry if the snake will really be cared for if all it represents is just an easy buck for a scammer).

So something happened so drastic in this guy's life that within 24 hours (from when he could have let Alice know he didn't really want this snake and to stop the shipping to when he received the snake), that he felt he "must" sell it. Okay, so why didn't he immediately contact Alice and see if she wanted to buy her snake back? Why didn't he let the breeder know that either he was #1 so dissatisfied with this snake he wanted it sold immediately or #2 something happened and he needed to sell it so fast? We are talking hours here folks, not days or weeks.

Because he's a little scumbag that was trying to make quick cash by basically ripping off Alice is my best guess. I'm not giving any leeway to someone that does this to a decent person and to a snake that deserves a hell of a lot better care than being shipped and flipped! If that makes me a hardas$$ so be it...this is just wrong and Alice is very nice to not do a BOI thread anyways.

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Originally Posted by Alice

I was contacted recently by a person who wanted to buy one of my pieds. Said he was just starting out, trying to build his collection, absolutely loved a certain pied I had pictured, would be a big part of his collection if he could get it but he couldn't afford the retail price I was asking. After talking with him a few times, he offered a reduced price and I agreed based on his circumstances and the potential that he would return in the future as a satisfied customer.

I shipped yesterday for arrival today. Not more than 1 hour after he picked up the pied from FedEx he had it listed on Kingsnake as a "Gorgeous '07 Female Pied" for hundreds more than he paid.

I know its business and I agreed to the sale, but boy do I feel used. Right now I feel like I should never give anyone a break in the future based on their "story". . .

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Put him up on the BOI

I, for one, would like to know the guy's name. I want to ensure that I never buy from him or sell to him!

Steve