Help me choose!

I'm sorrrryy... I know sometimes I cringe when I read these threads too, but alas, it is a what should I get one... I've been wanting a female morph for a future pairing with my pastel male. My boyfriend told me today that he will get me one for my birthday in October, I just have to let him know in the next few days, EXACTLY what I want. Isn't that great?!

What I have in mind, is Spider, Mojave, or Cinny. This isn't so much of me not knowing what I want -- I want ALL of them -- I just have an extreme case of indecisiveness. Please help me!

I would get the cinny and shoot for pewters! But it's your call ultimately.

Ugh you make it such a hard choice. Personally i'd want a Mojave, Spider, and Cinny equally- but since you have a pastel i marked cinny because that would look awesome.. but then again, you could get a bee or a pastave(sp)? i mean, it is so awesome.

lucky you. i love hard choices like these, you cant go wrong, really.

Oooh I see quite a few votes for cinnies. Cool! Keep em comin!

i like the pastaves , so mojo for me but on a side note , spider could get ya bee's !!

Ok, i am still kinda where you are. I think i've narrowed the few pairs i want down. But out of the three spider, cinny, mojave i think you should get a spider. Here is why. Cinny while can be cool and are not too expensive anymore don't always have that cinnamon look to them. A lot that i've seen on kingsnake and when i went to the daytona show just looked normal. But on the other hand they can do some interesting things. Mojave, i was 100% sure i wanted one, until i saw a lesser. The lesser make a much whiter, better, still blue eyed leuistic snake when two are bred together. And by the time you raise your new snake to breeding age and you sell the babies the prices on them should have gone way way down. So why get a mojave now when you can get a lesser in the future for a better price. On the other hand pastel mojave are pretty and super pastel mojave are even better. Now if you breed a spider with a pastel you would hope to get a bumble bee which are amazing. I love the high white sides of the spider, the light green eyes, the crazy reduced patterns, and all the possiblites to them. I should have a spider and a pastel in the near future( hoping for next wednsday to come home with them). And hopefully ill get a spider or two from the clutch as well as the bumble bee. But in the end it is up to you and what YOU like and want to breed. If you like the cinny get it. If you like the mojave get it. Or if you like the spider get it. Good luck and lucky you to get an awesome present!

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Originally Posted by darkangel

Oooh I see quite a few votes for cinnies. Cool! Keep em comin!

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Well here's a list

male pastel x spider female = spiders pastels bee's. depending on how much breeding back you could ultimately get a super pastel bee (cant rememeber name! ha!)

male pastel x cinny female = pewters, pastels, cinnys. then depending on how much in/line/back breeding you do you could get super cinnys & silver bullets (i think).

and then with mojaves you could get a pastave, or breed back to mom and get the mojave x mojave white snake? or does it take a mojave x lesser? im lost lol

I swear it's only getting tougher the more I think about it. I think I could narrow it done to Spider or Cinny.

Spider or cinny? :confuzd: :frustrate
I am so indecisive.

Thanks for all the input!

How about a Spider 100% het ghost :D Then you'd be one step closer to Honey Bees and Bees :)

Crap. More options. LOL

What a terrible burden to have, having to make this decision. :P

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Originally Posted by darkangel

Crap. More options. LOL

What a terrible burden to have, having to make this decision. :P

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well, what every you get, make sure to get pics lest we skin you alive :P

personally i've been wanting to get a spider next, but then again i'm in love with mojaves & dang it if i dont want a super cinny some day.

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Originally Posted by shhhli

well, what every you get, make sure to get pics lest we skin you alive :P

personally i've been wanting to get a spider next, but then again i'm in love with mojaves & dang it if i dont want a super cinny some day.

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I promise I will be annoying everyone with pictures :D. It's easy to have a wish list but it's so hard to pick that one thing that you want next.

i'd choose the spider to make bees

i personally like spiders because they have such a stick-out look to them. thats why i got a spider. but i voted for mojave because i saw and fell in love with a super pastel x mojave (forget what it was called). i would get a breedable pastel female, and a hatchling mojo. then you breed for super pastels (hopefully get a male) and then by the time your mojo is breeding age, BAM you got those beautiful looking snakes.

thats what i would do, but best of luck with you and anything you choose.

We all have our favorite and mine out of this list would be Spider, the question is what is yours and what first project would excite you the most? Bee, Pewter or Pastave?

I have to say Spider I think it's the best combo morph available.:2cent:

Get'em all! You can never have enough ladies! :D

The great thing about a male is they can breed multiple times in a season. Get them all :)

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Originally Posted by Royalherper

The great thing about a male is they can breed multiple times in a season. Get them all :)

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Hmm... I love this idea. Really I do. Who wants to give donations? :P

Thanks for all the input! To be honest I wasn't really impressed with the pastave, but it may have been the one picture I looked at wasn't all that great. Bees are awesome and just the chance of a pewter is amazing. This is gonna be a toughie! I think I probably will let this poll decide for me because I'm having a tough time. Keep em comin!

i voted for a cinnie.... i would do (almost) anything for a pewter! btw... there are worse decisions to be forced into!:P

i have to say spider... cause that's what i just did... a pair of pastels and a nice spider to go with them. (plus some 100% het pieds to round things out)

Id go with the spider. Thats what i just ordered. Ill be picking up sometime next month with a male yellow belly. The spider will be going with my male pastel. Yellow belly will be going with some normals and maybe a het albino female. Ive read that some of the cinnys when bred to another to try and get the super cinnys. Theres some that have came out of eggs with deformed heads or noses. Not sure that might be worth checking into. I think i also heard something about spiders when they first showed up too. Kinked spines and acting funny like brain damage or something. Again might be something you want to check into more before you decide on what to get. Might not be that big of a deal. If you could buy male and female unrelated pair. Breeding back to mom or dad might not be the best thing to do. With snakes that are know for having some defects. But ive only been keeping balls since 92. Started breeding in 03. Im sure there is someone out there that has worked with both spiders and cinnys and knows more about them than me. Just something to check on.

Spidey's really winning out! Looks like I have a winner! Thanks for all the votes and replies!

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Originally Posted by darkangel

Spidey's really winning out! Looks like I have a winner! Thanks for all the votes and replies!

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If you haven't made your mind up yet, the Super Pastel x Mojave is a wicked looking snake IMO.

http://market.kingsnake.com/image/671241.jpg

But it all comes down to preference and the goals you want to achieve with your projects. Good luck...I'm torn b/w spider and mojave for my next pick up as well :confused:

Man, as soon as I have the money saved up, I'll be buying myself a nice, light gold reduced spider girl for my pastel apollo.. then maybe a few years later a spider het xanthic male, and a het xanthic female to make me some xanthic bee's, and my dream, the super xanthic bees!!! *drools*

I picked the spider because bee's are my personal favorite base designer morph.



I've had a similar dilema as of late. I've been trying to decide a 2nd co-dom male to go with along with a spider male. I Finally decided on a cinnamon after seeing the pics of the "Miracle" pewter in the other thread. I'm picking up 2 female pastels, so im going to try to make pewters and bees.

Bees!!!

As much as I love spiders and bees, I have to vote Cinny. Pewters are HOT. Hey, maybe you can talk him into a het Clown male too, just think of all the morphs not around yet with them in the mix!

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

As much as I love spiders and bees, I have to vote Cinny. Pewters are HOT. Hey, maybe you can talk him into a het Clown male too, just think of all the morphs not around yet with them in the mix!

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Ughh.... That is what is SO hard. Pewters ARE hot. So are bees. So are spiders just as a base morph. Tough decisions! :D

I would say cinny then spider, but i always love a good super pastel!

I love the spiders but ive changed my mind on getting one. I decided to go with the mojave. Read alot of bad things about spiders all the spinning and head wobble. That changed my mind. Dont get me wrong spiders are great there killer mix well with most other morphs. I just dont want to take the chance of hatching out a bunch of messed up baby spiders i cant get rid of.

Hey, since your boyfriend is paying, why not say F-it and go with a killer bee or a platty :D

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Hey, since your boyfriend is paying, why not say F-it and go with a killer bee or a platty :D

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Unfortunately he's not a doctor. :P

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Get'em all! You can never have enough ladies! :D

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I agree, try and convince him to get you all of them. you've beeen good enough to be spoiled :P

I would go for the Spider. Maybe you'll get a Bumble Bee! :sunny: