Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
I dunno if my new baby pastel male is a wild caught or not...he was about 75 grams when I got him a month and a half ago...temps are perfect, humidity also...made it nice and dark, quite too...looked at him weeks ago and he looked like death..took him to the vet and she said to tube feed him so I have on 3 different times....he finally pooped but it's pretty runny and he will not even look at hopper mice...I have the meds for deworming snakes, but it reqally pisses me off if this is a wild caught, when I was told it was CB.
Who did you get it from,
Did they provide genetic and heritage papers with the animal ???
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actually I got it from a breeder that was suggested to me...I have called him and left continuous e-mails, but with no returns...I own 20 b/p from pastels and spiders and never has it ever gotten this bad..I talked to a breeder that I deal with in Texas and he said a lot of the Florida breeders have gotten a ton of imports from adults to hatchlings and have been selling them.
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
actually I got it from a breeder that was suggested to me...I have called him and left continuous e-mails, but with no returns...I own 20 b/p from pastels and spiders and never has it ever gotten this bad..I talked to a breeder that I deal with in Texas and he said a lot of the Florida breeders have gotten a ton of imports from adults to hatchlings and have been selling them.
I am so sorry to hear you are having all these issues...and I wish I had some vast experience that could help :(
I would suggest you post the experience with this "breeder" in the feedback section so others don't end up having to go through what you have by dealing with him.
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
I talked to a breeder that I deal with in Texas and he said a lot of the Florida breeders have gotten a ton of imports from adults to hatchlings and have been selling them.
This is true!!!
Who is this breeder and have your tried to get back with them. I had a pastel that took two months to get feeding regularly for me. With Daytona loads of breeders have been just slammed getting ready for that. Its not an excuse to ignore your customer but it could be the reason.
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so anyone going to Daytona PLEASE be careful..and anyone looking on KingSnake, watch where you purchase you snakes....if anyone would like the name of this breeder posted tell me now...I have the name and e-mail address!!
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
so anyone going to Daytona PLEASE be careful..and anyone looking on KingSnake, watch where you purchase you snakes....if anyone would like the name of this breeder posted tell me now...I have the name and e-mail address!!
I want it!!
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ok I'll send it to you in a P/M
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If were you I would assist feed him a small hopper mouse or pinky rat. I think tube feeding provides more stress than nutrition. Just place the pinky him his mouth and try to get the pinkies head just past the jaw. Then you can place the snake back in his cage and he should finish eating it on his own. It may take a few trys but he will eat it and it will be much better for him than tube feeding.
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
I want it!!
me too
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by pfan151
If were you I would assist feed him a small hopper mouse or pinky rat. I think tube feeding provides more stress than nutrition. Just place the pinky him his mouth and try to get the pinkies head just past the jaw. Then you can place the snake back in his cage and he should finish eating it on his own. It may take a few trys but he will eat it and it will be much better for him than tube feeding.
If the animal is wild caught and suffering from malnutrition and stress any form of assisted feeding could push it over the edge health wise. Get in touch with the breeder and work it out if the breeder isn't willing to work with you. Assisted feeding is a last resort but time is of the essence. Just my two cents.
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yeah it really sucks because I've never had assist any of my snakes and this poor little guys looks so bad, but I'm not gonna give up
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
ok I'll send it to you in a P/M
I would like it too.
As I said you should also consider posting it in the feedback forum so everyone will know. :)
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
If the animal is wild caught and suffering from malnutrition and stress any form of assisted feeding could push it over the edge health wise. Get in touch with the breeder and work it out if the breeder isn't willing to work with you. Assisted feeding is a last resort but time is of the essence. Just my two cents.
Assist feeding is far less stressful than tube feeding. The chances of his snake being WC are very slim IMO because it is a pastel. Some CB snake eat like crap too. It may be a good idea to get a fecal test done but I really think your most important thing right now is to get some food into him. Just keep the meal smaller than you would usually give to a snake of his size and hope for the best. His stool was more than likely runny due to the tube feeding. From his description it sounds like his snake may be too far gone but assist feeding is his only chance at saving it IMO.
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by pfan151
The animal is not wild caught, it is a pastel.
Excuse me...W/C is the improper term captive hatched. But you can still get W/C pastels
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From his description it sounds like his snake may be too far gone but assist feeding is his only chance at saving it IMO.
The other side of this is that it might have not been an established feeder prior to being shipped. so you may have gotten an animal that has never excepted a meal.
Get with the breeder!!!!!!! If you assist feed and it dies and then try to do anything the breeder can say that the animal was injured during an assist feeding and is in turn not his responsibility to replace.
but in the end its your snake and your decision.
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Excuse me...W/C is the improper term captive hatched. But you can still get W/C pastels
The other side of this is that it might have not been an established feeder prior to being shipped. so you may have gotten an animal that has never excepted a meal.
Get with the breeder!!!!!!! If you assist feed and it dies and then try to do anything the breeder can say that the animal was injured during an assist feeding and is in turn not his responsibility to replace.
but in the end its your snake and your decision.
I edited my first responce before I saw this post. I know it is possible that the snake is a CH but the chances are pretty slim. I agree that it probably never was an established feeder. From what the original poster said it sounds like the breeder is blowing him off and I doubt someone that would send of a snake in poor condition would be willing to help much. I just don't want to see this guys snake die because he is waiting on a breeder to respond. Many times after 1 or 2 assist feeds the snake will take off and eat on his own fine.
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I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it
Well you have one option keep trying the tube feeding and see how it goes.
Best of luck!
Re: Wild caught hatchlings
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Originally Posted by optprime
I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it
How much does the snake currently weigh? What have you been tube feeding him? If he is losing much weight even with the tube feeding I really think you should try to assist feed a very small meal. Sometimes just one assist feed can get them started and they will eat fine for you after that. But it is your choice, good luck.
