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  • 08-20-2007, 12:26 AM
    Swingline0.0.1
    Morphs and health problems
    Do morphs have any health problems because of their genetics? I wasn't sure if the genetics only affect the pigmentation, etc, or if anyone had heard of any other problems with them.
  • 08-20-2007, 03:38 AM
    dr del
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Hi,

    I think there are a few that are supposedly more succeptible to problems. I'm only reporting what I've read though so the more experienced people will be able to answer more fully. The ones I've heard mentioned are;

    Spiders and spinning.

    Caramels and kinking.

    Super cinnamons and shorter snouts ( I think - never seen an example).


    Hopefully someone else has better info?



    dr del
  • 08-20-2007, 09:00 AM
    mricyfire
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    ^ those are the only three i know of...but the spide thing varies it isnt all of them.
  • 08-20-2007, 09:06 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    some BEL's have the duck bill thing like the Supper Cinni's.
  • 08-20-2007, 10:08 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Would that be considered an overbite?
  • 08-20-2007, 10:13 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Would that be considered an overbite?

    no the upper and lower jaw are the same size there is just a bulbous appearance to it. and overbite (which can happen) is when the lower jaw is considerably smaller or shorter than the top. :D:D
  • 08-20-2007, 10:40 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Oh.. come to think of it, I have seen it on some of the SCinny pics I've seen online.
  • 08-20-2007, 03:15 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Also, Super Womas aka the Pearl have extreme motor issues and tend to die out very quickly out of the egg.
  • 08-20-2007, 03:16 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh
    Also, Super Womas aka the Pearl have extreme motor issues and tend to die out very quickly out of the egg.

    Yea which is sad cause the Pearl is a super hot snake.
  • 08-20-2007, 03:26 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    From what I have heard, some of these defects are arrising because of breedings involving siblings.... brother to sister breeding.
  • 08-20-2007, 05:14 PM
    shhhli
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sputnik
    From what I have heard, some of these defects are arrising because of breedings involving siblings.... brother to sister breeding.

    wasn't there something about albino's being born missing eyes? or was that with boas?
  • 08-20-2007, 05:26 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shhhli
    wasn't there something about albino's being born missing eyes? or was that with boas?

    I know that still does happen with boas!
  • 08-22-2007, 12:27 AM
    Swingline0.0.1
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    What exactly is spinning?
  • 08-22-2007, 01:44 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    I doubt it's due to inbreeding on any of these as the problems have stayed with us even after plenty of time for outbreeding. In the case of spider it's seen in spite of generations of outbreeding. With the others it's seen regularly in the homozygous animals but not their just as inbred/not inbred het/possible het siblings. It seems likely that these problems are just another feature of the morphs. The encouraging thing is that they aren't always seen so perhaps we can do something to overcome the tendency.
  • 08-22-2007, 04:42 AM
    Royal Tartan
    Re: Morphs and health problems
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Swingline0.0.1
    What exactly is spinning?


    wobbly head or doing the ' loop the loop '

    as said not all have it , more common in spiders , but can ( tho rarely ) be seen in others. its still unclear as to why happens and like Randy said ...Spid's have been out crossed everywhere and it still appears .
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