Guessing game!

We just hatched these odd looking balls!

Can anyone guess what they are?, a hint, not Super Pastels!

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...thic_2-med.jpg

A normal clutchmate, a pastel from another clutch and 2 of 3 weird ones :)
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...hic_17-med.jpg

Thanks for looking

Marc & Michael

pastel....dang i have no clue lol

Just a major shot in the dark... But are they ivory pastels?

I'm probably way off, I'm just beginning to learn about morphs...

Either way, they are gorgeous!

Are they Pastel Ghost?

i was gonna say pastel ghost, but... they just dont have that look.... hmm. Jury is still out on that one.

yellowbelly pastels? with the amount of blushing and how light they are it has to be some sort of pastel mix but at the same time be a co dom trait since a normal was produced too..........

I concur!

I was gonna say Mojave pastel, but looks like a yellow belly cross also. Hmmm, whatever it is they're amazing :D

pastel/ghost I think.. the "normal" could be a normal het ghost.

If I'm right, that's some amazing odds...

i was thinking ghost but then he stated normal, if he was only talking about appearence then that would be one of my two top guesses.

Pastel het VPI Axanthic?:D

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Pastel het VPI Axanthic?

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Bingo, we have a winner.

We bred our VPI Axantic male to a Pastel, she laid 6 eggs of which two were severe boob eggs that didn't make it.

Of those four eggs, 0.0.3 were Pastel Het-Axanthic BUT we weren't expecting this type of look with all that blushing, I can hardly imagine what a VPI Axanthic Pastel will look like and lets not even think of a VPI Axanthic Super Pastel :)

Thank you all for the nice comments.

Marc

The VPI Axanthic must have been a pastel too looking at those babies.


Chris van Kalken
The Netherlands

If the axanthic was a pastel, there "shouldn't" have been a normal in the clutch.

Crazy looking babies.... congrats!

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Originally Posted by Rapture

If the axanthic was a pastel, there "shouldn't" have been a normal in the clutch.

Crazy looking babies.... congrats!

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Yes, there could be normals in a pastel x pastel clutch. Only if one of the parents was a super pastel would there not be any normals.

But the OP said he was sure the babies weren't supers, so that seems to rule out there being any pastel gene in the daddy. I wonder if the het form of VPI axanthic has affected other pastels this sharply? Could make for a fun marker if you were dealing with possible hets. :P

The VPI Axanthic sire produced other normal het clutches and never produced a Pastel.

Here he is :)

http://www.regiusco.ca/images/pythons/Axanthicmale1.jpg

Thanks

Marc

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Originally Posted by RegiusCo.com

The VPI Axanthic sire produced other normal het clutches and never produced a Pastel.

Here he is :)

http://www.regiusco.ca/images/pythons/Axanthicmale1.jpg

Thanks

Marc

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I think what he was saying was, if the het VPI Axanthic trait has this effect on het pastels, then it may be possible to test for the Axanthic trait by breeding a possible het to a pastel.

There are no het Pastels unless you're counting Pastels as the het and Super Pastels as the Visual morph.

Hi,


I think he meant using a pastel as a means to test the authenticity of a possible het vpi axanthic.

Has anyone else ever tried the combo to see if its an individual snake effect or a line one?


dr del

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

There are no het Pastels unless you're counting Pastels as the het and Super Pastels as the Visual morph.

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that's exactly what I meant. Technically, a regular pastel is in fact het for the trait.

We bred our VPI Axanthic male to a Pastel female, she gave us 6 eggs of which two were severe boob eggs that didn't make it.

We were expecting normal looking Pastel Het-VPI Axanthic, you can imagine the surprised look on our face when the first piped :eek:

Here they are, 0.2.1 Pastel Het-Axanthic and 0.1 Het-Axanthic in this clutch, interesting how the Axanthic gene can have such an effect on Pastels in the first generation :confused:

0.1 #1
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...xan_1a-med.jpg

0.1 #2
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...xan_2a-med.jpg

This 3rd one is taking its sweet time leaving the egg, we are hoping for a boy :D
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...axan_3-med.jpg

Comparative shot with a month old Pastel from another clutch.
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/...pastel-med.jpg

Thanks for looking and playing the guessing game :)

Marc

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Originally Posted by RegiusCo.com

interesting how the Axanthic gene can have such an effect on Pastels in the first generation :confused:

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They will also get greenish over time :whisper:

Great clutch btw :clap:

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Can we get pics of older ones and the greenest of the green ( for our irish members)?

Also any pics of the second generation - do any odd traits carry through?


dr del

The whole thing is a trip, I am becoming more and more a fan of Axanthics. Thats all I need another recessive project :confused: . I have never been a real fan of the Axanthics but the VPI's are to die for :salute:

Yes, would love to see older ones with the greenish tint, please, please, pretty please :D

Marc

I don't have a pastel pic handy but check out this Mojave het VPI Axanthic on the upper right corner :eek:


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/edfde383.jpg

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Originally Posted by cueball

I don't have a pastel pic handy but check out this Mojave het VPI Axanthic on the upper right corner :eek:


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/edfde383.jpg

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Do all the hets affect coloration? Very cool :cool: :rockon:

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Originally Posted by westcoastjungle

Do all the hets affect coloration? Very cool :cool: :rockon:

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Raul,
I can tell you that the color was not affected in my Pinstripes Het for Axanthic. (p.s no pics yet, as they are about to shed)

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Raul,
I can tell you that the color was not affected in my Pinstripes Het for Axanthic. (p.s no pics yet, as they are about to shed)

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So it only affects certain morphs?