You guys were right!

i took the lil guy into my sisters work and they inspected him and said he has no parasites but hes loseing weight. they coudlnt find what was cuasing his weight lose.so i took him back to the place and they said no problem they gave me another one 2-3 tiems bigger that one i had. heres a picture of the guy. and his body is big should he be able to eat these micei bought or go down. its about his body size. hes heavy for his size ill get him wieghed. tomorrow is his feeding day theys said so im gonan wait till next saturday to feed the guy and ill take a picture of him again to compare him to somethin for size reference
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im so excited bout this one hes huge and has a big head for his size.

who ever i doubted about him being un-healthy my bad. when u said that i looked at him and then boom i left headed to detroits ASPCA and everything. but hell be able to get the proper care to treat what ever is wrong with him.

Nice new normal. Some of his blushing is just adorable! Mine has no blushing, but ah well. I hope this one turns out to be a fatty-kins for you, haha. Good luck!

thanks he already looks liek a fatty haha the water bowl i had TOO SMALL haha he cant soak bu half way haha so off to get a deeper one for him(no more plastic containers) i wanna lay the mosue next to him to see if its okay compare it but he might eat it haha and i dont want him eating till hes settled in. ill let you guys know how its goin im off to some stores.

They don't need to soak. Your water dish is fine.

So instead of getting your BP back in shape you just trade him in?

If you had provided proper care and listen to the advice given here you could have had a healthy BP, and be a proud owner that did everything he could to see his animal thrive which is a very rewarding feeling. :mad:

I'm confused, did you return him to the store you bought the first snake at or give him to the ASPCA?

Well hopefully this one is better suited to you and your experience. Good luck!

this one is huge in the enclouser i have him in right now. he fills when coiled up the hwole bottom of the butter bowl. no aspca wouldnt take them. the store i showed him to said they will take him back to nurse him cuz they will find out wuts wrong wit him for free compared to me spending tons of money. so they gave me a big fat healthy one. they were interested in y the snake was losing weight. whats the hottest the cool side can be cuz today humidity hit 95% outside and his cool side is 83.4 with 68% humidity in tank. trust me i wanted to nurse him back and be proud that i took care of a sick snake and brought him back . but Aspca told me that if i did id be very busy watchin him tkaing notes and stuff. i made it easier on me and him by letting the specialist there nurse him back. the new guy is already feeling like home hsin the hide and has just his head stickin out. i kno he loves it cuz all they had him is was a 30 gallon tank with a huge log hide which he didnt use. and i been watchin this sanke for the last 2 weeks cuz i was gonna buy him for my second. he just kept getting ibgger every time i seen him. it was the largest the store has ever sold. hes very calm which i beleive is good.

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this one is huge in the enclouser i have him in right now. he fills when coiled up the hwole bottom of the butter bowl. no aspca wouldnt take them. the store i showed him to said they will take him back to nurse him cuz they will find out wuts wrong wit him for free compared to me spending tons of money. so they gave me a big fat healthy one. they were interested in y the snake was losing weight. whats the hottest the cool side can be cuz today humidity hit 95% outside and his cool side is 83.4 with 68% humidity in tank. trust me i wanted to nurse him back and be proud that i took care of a sick snake and brought him back . but Aspca told me that if i did id be very busy watchin him tkaing notes and stuff. i made it easier on me and him by letting the specialist there nurse him back. the new guy is already feeling like home hsin the hide and has just his head stickin out. i kno he loves it cuz all they had him is was a 30 gallon tank with a huge log hide which he didnt use. and i been watchin this sanke for the last 2 weeks cuz i was gonna buy him for my second. he just kept getting ibgger every time i seen him. it was the largest the store has ever sold. hes very calm which i beleive is good.

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Cool Side temps 82-84 degrees.

his body is about the size of a gatorade bottle cap give or take a few now will thsoe mice i pictures be fine for him. hes got a decent size head and neck.

Did you sterilized the enclosure and everything inside of it before putting this new BP in it?

yes i did i used a tablespoon of bleech to a whole sink full of hot water to clean all objects. and i use wipe out 1 sprayed tank and let it sit for 5 mins then wiped with wet rag then dried it waited till it was dry dry and well ventilated. took bout 30 mins to do all of it

he seems to be way calm and settled in jsut shy when bright light coems on so im useing a dimmer light on low. his feed day is tomorrow shoudl i skip it or feed him hasnt been out exploring since i put him in and that was 6 hrs ago.

I like your thinking. My female that I purchased 13 yrs ago was coverd in mites and ticks. That was the reason I picked her. I felt sorry about the poor care she was getting. She is currently fat and healthy and sitting on 6 eggs.

i try to think for the animal is its best interest and when he was sick and out of my control no need to make him suffer so i got him the best care possible. and i need to get this guy sexed. in my eyes being this big i think its a female. it was the dominant one in the whole tank. so gorgeous and calm, with the body in the cave and jsut bout 6 inches out resting on the log. too cute

Returning it to the pet store isnt getting it the "best care possible". Chances are they will throw it right back in the tank you picked it out from (or whatever they had it housed in).

And you cannot tell sex from size. But if it is female, then good for you.

im hopin its male to i can stud him out to my buddy who has 3 females. but either or dont mater its gorggeous. oh and beleive me ill be at the store tomorrow to make sure his ass isnt in wit the others and if he is im gonna make them pull him out and quarentine him till hes healthy. no other buyers need that lil guys problems to haunt them.

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im hopin its male to i can stud him out to my buddy who has 3 females. but either or dont mater its gorggeous. oh and beleive me ill be at the store tomorrow to make sure his ass isnt in wit the others and if he is im gonna make them pull him out and quarentine him till hes healthy. no other buyers need that lil guys problems to haunt them.

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Most pet stores dont give a rats @$$ about their animals. Just see them as a profit. If you were to tell them, they would either
a) ignore you
b) kick you out of the store
c) remove it to make you happy then put it back in later
d) do the right thing; which we know what it is and which is also highly doubtful

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i try to think for the animal is its best interest and when he was sick and out of my control no need to make him suffer so i got him the best care possible.

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:8: You cannot possibly be serious.
People have offered you advice on 2 forums, you dismiss the advice given to you, the condition your BP was in was not out of your control and could have been improve if you had followed the recommendations of various members.

Instead you traded him in like it was a used car :colbert: .

Is that what is called responsible pet ownership? :confuzd:

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:8: You cannot possibly be serious.
People have offered you advice on 2 forums, you dismiss the advice given to you, the condition your BP was in was not out of your control and could have been improve if you had followed the recommendations of various members.

Instead you traded him in like it was a used car :colbert: .

Is that what is called responsible pet ownership? :confuzd:

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Its called lack of effort I think.

He mentions how big it is every 3 seconds, seems to me thats all he's really concerned about.

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i try to think for the animal is its best interest and when he was sick and out of my control no need to make him suffer so i got him the best care possible.

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No you don't! You generally argue every suggestion or just don't bother to try to understand the suggestions given. The "best care possible" is not dumping it back in a pet store where it's likely to get minimal care at best. :mad:

*SIGH* :mad:
Didn't listen to a thing...even when we said it nicely...

FYI trading in a sick, malnourished animal back to a pet store of all places is NOT in ANY animal's best interest. Since you pointedly ignored everyone's great advice and council, and since you are bragging so much about this snake's size, it can be deduced that you are only in this for a trophy pet.

Now, if I am wrong, then I apologize...but only if you prove that I'm wrong. Show us you really give a damn about doing the best for this new snake by following the council, advice, and info posts from these fine people, and by changing your enclosure and husbandry.

i didnt buy him for a pet sore. it was a breeder reptile specialist wit his own store. and it was out of my control to health him back. i get up 5 am mon-fri and dont get him till 10pm. wheres the time to be there for a sick baby BP. if i were home more then yea i would of kept him and gotten treatment done. but by me all vets are clsoed on weekends and cloed when i get off work.

This thread, and the other, just makes me sad... I felt I needed to contribute some sort of opinion after several days of watching it progress.

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i didnt buy him for a pet sore. it was a breeder reptile specialist wit his own store. and it was out of my control to health him back. i get up 5 am mon-fri and dont get him till 10pm. wheres the time to be there for a sick baby BP. if i were home more then yea i would of kept him and gotten treatment done. but by me all vets are clsoed on weekends and cloed when i get off work.

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I just wonder... if you are gone that long, and 'all' vets are closed weekends near you, then why on earth do you own any animals?? If the only time you can give them is when you're drained and half awake, and you never have the time to care for them or take them to a vet you shouldn't have them. Animals are great companions...but they are just that: companions. Having pets just to have them is not the way to go.

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I just wonder... if you are gone that long, and 'all' vets are closed weekends near you, then why on earth do you own any animals?? If the only time you can give them is when you're drained and half awake, and you never have the time to care for them or take them to a vet you shouldn't have them. Animals are great companions...but they are just that: companions. Having pets just to have them is not the way to go.

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Gotta agree here. What do you plan to do if this snake needs vet care? Trade it in too?


I find it hard to believe you couldn't find time to take care of the first one, since you made time Friday mid-day to trade him in.

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and it was out of my control to health him back. i get up 5 am mon-fri and dont get him till 10pm.

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As a responsible owner you must not only be able to provide financially for your animal but you must also have the time to commit to your animal, otherwise why get an animal. Animal = maintenance = time.
How will you make time for this one if something happen :confused: .

Look the fact is a single pet snake is about the easiest creature on earth to manage for a single, busy person. They really need very little daily care timewise. Makes them a very perfect pet for busy people I figure.

That however does not mean that they require no adjustment of your life, no committment of your time. Any living thing does or one should not willingly take them on. A sick creature deserves the right to immediate and appropriate care! If that means you have to use a vacation day or lose a day of pay....that's just part of responsible pet ownership. A long work day is NO excuse for allowing any living thing to suffer needlessly.

Many of us here work long hours outside our homes or manage very busy households with children, snakes, other pets, volunteer work, spouses. Sorry but you won't find a lot of sympathy for blaming a vet for not being open when you are off work. You make the time or you don't own a pet...simple as that!