Angolans Question

Rarely see these and when I do they are pretty up there in price.

How come these guys are high in price?

Just wondering because most snakes in there normal form (non-morph) are usually a decent price.

Are they hard to get a hold of or something?

Not too many breeders?

I love the look of them.

Anyone ever have one?

low supply, high demand?

^ Agreed.

More like low supply, low demand?

I dunno.

What determines martket value is this.

If supply is low and demand is high the price goes up.

If supply is high and demand is low then the price goes down.

Example; Burmese pythons have bigger clutches then ball pythons. So if you are expecting albinos from a burm you would typically get more than what a BP would produce. The demand for Albino burms is much lower than the high demand for albino ball pythons. This translates into cheap albino burms and expensive albino ball pythons.

I dont know much about breeding albinos at all, this was only used as an example.

yeah id love a pair , hopefully soon...maybe :)
one reason is probly the state of the country atm its still littered with millions of unexploded landmines. making things differcult for WC specimens.
There are CB ones out there but at a price , in the uk they go for around £3000 a pair , so not out of my reach but still real expensive

We have had two pair for about a year now. They are great snakes. Eat TONS better than the balls do, that's for sure!!! That is always a nice change. I love their beaded scales, and how much longer their bodies are compared to balls. It is cool because their heads look so similar to balls, and yet they are SO different. They do take longer to mature than balls do, and as pointed out before, there aren't really any imported from Africa. So, they are much more rare than many of the other pythons. That is why they are expensive, but the prices are slowly coming down. Anyway, here are a couple pics.


http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06_GFNov.jpg

http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06-MaleMar07.jpg

Hi,


In the second pic is that an ovulation, a rat or a normal body shape?!?!:eek:


dr del

i also heard that they are hard to breed, that's why the price is what it is, please embellish :)

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,


In the second pic is that an ovulation, a rat or a normal body shape?!?!:eek:


dr del

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That's not normal body shape for sure...I would guess dinner, but we'll have to wait.

They are gorgeous animals. I got to hold one a while back at my reptile store. Certainly wouldn't mind adding one to my collection...=)

That was a food item. At that time that little one only weighed about 500-600g, so is still aways away from being ready to breed. As far as difficulty in breeding...first off, we haven't done it yet so all I can give you is what I have gotten first hand from Casey Lazik, and one other breeder that has produced them. Compared to balls I would say they are more difficult, but to anyone that is dedicated to do it, it is not that difficult. Just takes a bit more room, and better attention to temps than ball pythons, but pretty similar to centralians or blackheads. Do keep in mind though that Angolan clutches are fairly small like ball pythons, often only 4-10 eggs, so that also keeps the rare. Anyway, they are for sure cool snakes, and each year that goes by brings more breeders producing them, and lower prices, so before too long they will be affordable to the more average person. Might be awhile before you can get a female under $500, but I bet it won't be too long before you can get a male that cheap. They are for sure worth it if you can pull it off!!!

Angolans are my favorite snake, BY FAR!

Once I sell one of my jet skis, I wanna get one.

I saw my first Angolan today - an 07 male in a tub at the local reptile store.
If they are rare in the US they are almost unknown in the UK so I was impressed. Look like lovely snakes and I do hope that breeding gets the prices down in the not too distant future. The guy I saw today was about £600 (1200USD) if I remember correctly.

Saw a pair at a show on Saturday, they are ok, wasn't impressed myself, but we all have different tastes. :)

Kev got me a pair a couple of years ago & I absolutely LOVE them!!! I've been raising them up slow & steady & am looking forward to pairing them up next year. Very cool, intense little snakes! :D

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Originally Posted by BiG~PUN

Example; Burmese pythons have bigger clutches then ball pythons. So if you are expecting albinos from a burm you would typically get more than what a BP would produce. The demand for Albino burms is much lower than the high demand for albino ball pythons. This translates into cheap albino burms and expensive albino ball pythons.

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Dont boas have big clutches? Why are they more expensive than balls?

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Originally Posted by jeffjr464

i also heard that they are hard to breed, that's why the price is what it is, please embellish :)

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Thats what im thinking. Also because not a lot of people have a good handful to breed simotaniously.

Im no expert but just guessing and throwing my 2cents in.

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Originally Posted by Krazy99CL

Dont boas have big clutches? Why are they more expensive than balls?

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Im not really sure. I only used it as an example (and not a very good one). but the only thing i have bred is golden retrievers. So i do not know why exactly boas are more expensive than balls.

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Originally Posted by BiG~PUN

Im not really sure. I only used it as an example (and not a very good one). but the only thing i have bred is golden retrievers. So i do not know why exactly boas are more expensive than balls.

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I wasnt trying to say you were right or wrong, just throwing out as a possible theory.

On an another note....You live in hayward? You coming to the Sacramento expo in sept?

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Originally Posted by Krazy99CL

I wasnt trying to say you were right or wrong, just throwing out as a possible theory.

On an another note....You live in hayward? You coming to the Sacramento expo in sept?

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Ya ill be there. I cant hardly wait. I am also thinking about going to the one in San Jose. Are you going?

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Originally Posted by Krazy99CL

Dont boas have big clutches? Why are they more expensive than balls?

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I don't believe that boas are more expensive than balls, but the other way around. Boas can easily have somewhere from 12-20 in a clutch or more(depending on varibles, husbandry etc) Balls avg. 4-7 eggs a clutch (and could be depending on varibles).

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Originally Posted by bhmorrill

here are a couple pics.


http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06_GFNov.jpg

http://www.australianaddiction.com/AN06-MaleMar07.jpg

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Beautiful angolans. I'm very jealous :D

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Originally Posted by erobinson

I don't believe that boas are more expensive than balls, but the other way around. Boas can easily have somewhere from 12-20 in a clutch or more(depending on varibles, husbandry etc) Balls avg. 4-7 eggs a clutch (and could be depending on varibles).

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well meaning normal vs regular bci...no morphs. Take petco for example. balls are 80 and boas are 150. well around my area anyhow...