Change of Plans

Originally I was going to get a full grown miami phase male corn snake from the couple who sold us the gliders. Well, plans have changed. The cornsnake died last week due to old age. So now I might be in the market for a new snake. I was thinking of getting a little one from Noah's Pets down the street. My grandmother would not be happy about it, but I could keep it in the corner where she can't see it. Either way, I was wondering if a young cornsnake, say still on pinkies, could live comfortably in a 10g tank for a few months and then be moved up to a 20L. I have to go to the store today anyway to get a feeder for Zim (now on Hoppers) and some crickets and mealies for Chibi, so I know I'll be looking at the baby corns. Oh and I'm getting Zim probed again just to make sure she is a she.

Any opinions about the 10g?

(Just a tid bit, the 10g tank was a fish tank previously. Actually it still is, I'm taking it down (still has water in it) and giving it a good scrub. Wondering if this makes any difference in its use as a snake tank.)

Actually thats perfectly fine - young cornsnakes can be kept in things like plastic shoe boxes and be perfectly fine - a 20 even in a couple months would prob. be too big and stressful. a 10g is good. I personally wouldn't get a corn from a pet store - its overpriced and you won't know anything about the snake - I recommend getting one from a breeder!

If you have any more questions, check out this site - www.cornsnakes.com
Its an awesome forum that I'm a member of, and not only will you find a quality snake to purchase but everyone there is so friendly and willing to help!

Good luck getting a corn! They are so addicting - I was only going to have 1, but now I have a male and female and I'm in the market for 2 more!

it's best to find a breeder in your area, and stay away from pet stores. you could look online for a breeder, but the cost of the snake compared to the cost of shipping makes that difficult. check around online and see if you can find a breeder, or try a hit a reptile show around you. shows are another way to get a corn, you can see all the different morphs offered, handle them, and then pick one you like.

and a 10 gal is plenty big for a corn until it hits about 2.5 feet. alittle rule of thumb i use is the tank has to be at least 2/3 of the total length of the snake. a 10 gal is usually 20 inches, so a 30 inch snake would be the max in a 10 gal. sound good?

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Originally Posted by Kagez28

it's best to find a breeder in your area, and stay away from pet stores. you could look online for a breeder, but the cost of the snake compared to the cost of shipping makes that difficult. check around online and see if you can find a breeder, or try a hit a reptile show around you. shows are another way to get a corn, you can see all the different morphs offered, handle them, and then pick one you like.

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in general i agree with you. in this particular case, i know this store and the owner. this store doesn't buy wc or imports or deal with online wholesalers. he tends to buy from local breeders instead.


vaughn

The pet store isn't like your normal 'can't take care of jack' pet stores. This pet store takes good care of their animals and I have bought from them before. Zim was a Noah's snake until I got her. I just took her there to get probed but they couldn't find the right size probe and didn't want to risk going up to the next size probe.

As for breeders. I don't know of any breeders around here, though there is a reptile show coming up in August in Northern Va I could go to.

As for the 10 gallon. Does it matter if it was once a fish tank? I'm cleaning the rocks at the bottom now and I'm going to take it out and give it a good rinse with the hose, then a good scrub and another rinse.

sounds like you have a very nice pet store... i wish i was so lucky.

as for it being a fish tank, it really doesn't matter as long as you give it a very good cleaning, which i am sure you were already planning on doing. a 5% bleach solution will work, just keep the bleach on the surfaces for about 20 mins and then make sure you give it plenty of time to dry out. if you smell any bleach, more washing with water and drying is needed.

the only thing i have noticed with switching fish tanks between different kinds of animals is if you use it for rodents, then try and put fish in it... you are going to have a very wet floor :)

Nope, no rodents going into this tank. Come to think of it, no more fish either. I'm getting out of keeping fish. My other 10g fish tank is going to my grandmother's friend. Everything included for free. I'm going to focus on reptiles, my cats, and sugar gliders. Thats it. So as of right now, I have two empty tanks. One that was supposed to be for crested geckos but I don't think I'm going to get any of those for a while and then the 10g which is currently drying outside from its first rinse. Then I'm off to find the bleach.

Yup, a 10g would be fine for at least his first year, probably 1.5-2 yrs depending on how fast he grew. And yes, rinse it out with a diluted bleach solution, I've also used vinegar on old fish tanks, as it's an acid and can dissolve away tough gunk left over by fish; just make sure to rinse, rinse, and then rinse some more.

Just make sure that when you put the snake in it that the lid is ultra secure, corn snakes (especially hatchlings) are notorious escape artists. As for finding a corn, if you have a trust worthy pet store then by all means go through them. But shows are also a great source as well.

Thanks for answering my questions everyone. I still haven't cleaned the tank with a bleach solution yet. I had it outside drying from the first rinse and then I got busy. Tomorrow is my cleaning day for my reptile tanks, so I'll just get that one too.

I really want to get another snake, but I'll have to wait till I move out. I want to get another corn.

I'd wait for the show. They'll have a much better selection and the show will be cheaper. Even a good pet shop will have much higher prices.

Well now we have a new change of plans. A friend of mine came to my work today and said she had been trying to get a hold of me for a week. She has been very busy lately and feels she can't provide the needed care and attention for her single female sugar glider and was wondering if I could take it. She is willing to give me cage, accessories, the glider, and everything that comes with it for free as long as I promise to take care of it.

So now, come September when I move into an apartment (hopefully) then I will be adding another glider to the family. This puts a hold on getting any more snakes, lizards, or anything else for that matter. I will always help an animal in need of a home before I buy one. The female glider needs a home, so I'm giving her one, with me. Why must I have such a soft spot for animals? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

Well now we have a new change of plans. A friend of mine came to my work today and said she had been trying to get a hold of me for a week. She has been very busy lately and feels she can't provide the needed care and attention for her single female sugar glider and was wondering if I could take it. She is willing to give me cage, accessories, the glider, and everything that comes with it for free as long as I promise to take care of it.

So now, come September when I move into an apartment (hopefully) then I will be adding another glider to the family. This puts a hold on getting any more snakes, lizards, or anything else for that matter. I will always help an animal in need of a home before I buy one. The female glider needs a home, so I'm giving her one, with me. Why must I have such a soft spot for animals? :rolleyes:

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Well in my opinion it shows you have a special heart :rockon: ,be carefull you might end up with a zoo :P

Just my 2 cents!


Don't hid animals.....period. Say one day your grandmas cleaning and she sees that snake and freaks. And makes you get rid of all the other animals you have? But congrats on the new SG!:rockon:

I agree with what Justin said. This is not the same thing, but a few years ago my other half and I got an apartment together and we hid my two rabbits. Long story short, owners got word about my rabbits and told us to get rid of them that day OR to get out. Sadly at that time we didn't have anywhere else to live or go so he and I took them to a shelter.

I'm not hiding any animals from my gma. She is well aware I have one snake, lizard, and two cats. I don't plan on getting any more animals till I move out. The current sugar gliders I have (the two boys) are still with the couple that sold them to us. They are keeping them at their house until I have the apartment. As far as the apartment, I don't think they care what you have that lives in a cage as long as it doesn't get loose or does not pose a threat to the public (venamous snakes).

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

I'm not hiding any animals from my gma. She is well aware I have one snake, lizard, and two cats. I don't plan on getting any more animals till I move out. The current sugar gliders I have (the two boys) are still with the couple that sold them to us. They are keeping them at their house until I have the apartment. As far as the apartment, I don't think they care what you have that lives in a cage as long as it doesn't get loose or does not pose a threat to the public (venamous snakes).

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But you have 2 snakes from the info. in your sig.? Your not hiding it?

Oh! The second snake lives with my fiance. He'll be coming to live with me when I get the apartment. :carrot:

I asked my grandmother to cosign for me and she said we'd talk about it so I'm really crossing my fingers on this one. Both her and my mother know its time I get out and live on my own, so maybe she'll help me to do that.