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  • 07-11-2007, 10:43 PM
    bigrich0086
    Thermostat Help
    im lookin for a thermostat that i can plug my UTh into and set the temps on the thermo stat. so when it reaches my desired 95 dagrees itll shut off and when i goes below 88 itll kick on the UTh cuz my room gets hot during the day time so i need osmethin to do the monitoing while im at work. i have a rehostat but its jsut a dimmer basically i need somethin more advanced. any advice where i can find ond
  • 07-11-2007, 10:50 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Thermostat Help
    If you want a true on/off effect then I suggest either Ranco or Johnson (brands) . These have a temp probe and then you set a high temp and an offset. So say 95 and 5 degrees means that it turns off at 95 and will turn back on at 90.


    For a little more money Helix or Herpstat (brands) are proportionaly thermostats meaning instead of on/off they supply power at varying degrees to hold the temp at what you set it. So say 95...when it falls to 94 a little power it given...if it falls fast to 90 a lot of power is provided. The end result is they usually hold temps to a degree.

    www.reptilebasics.com will have both options and if you ask will pre-wire them so you can just plug them in when you get them.
  • 07-11-2007, 10:51 PM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    so these thermo's come jsut like a hsoue one jsut need to wire a cord to it thats it
  • 07-11-2007, 10:54 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    so these thermo's come jsut like a hsoue one jsut need to wire a cord to it thats it

    More or less...the Ranco/Johnson can be bought "raw" meaning you do all the wiring - or pre-wired which will have a wall power cord and a the plug in end already wired up.

    The helix/herpstats come in 2 flavors (grounded and non-grounded) but they are all wired to go out of the box.
  • 07-11-2007, 10:57 PM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    http://www.reptilebasics.com/product...cat=250&page=1 so this one will do what im lookin for then correct. plug my uth into the surge and set the temp and put the probe inside the tank
  • 07-11-2007, 11:01 PM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    my dad jsut told me about the salamander thermostats for the big kerosine heaters in garages. there 35 bucks at home depot and have a probe . does wut im askin . sry for the questions my dad jsut found the product 5 mins ago. thanks though
  • 07-11-2007, 11:02 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    http://www.reptilebasics.com/product...cat=250&page=1 so this one will do what im lookin for then correct. plug my uth into the surge and set the temp and put the probe inside the tank

    Yes it will.:)
  • 07-11-2007, 11:35 PM
    Kagez28
    Re: Thermostat Help
    never heard of salamander thermostats... do you have a link or something i tried googling it but nothing struck me. might want to check and make sure they will work for a reptile enclosure.

    i know the ranco and johnson control thermostats are used for other things then keeping reptiles, in fact my old restaurant used to have one in a walk-in cooler. it was set in cooling mode so if it got to warm from going in and out, it turned on the fans and got things down to the set temp.
  • 07-11-2007, 11:38 PM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    they call them salmander or reddy heaters which i hear work good for helping heating garages. i found this one that works liek i want and is a lil bit cheaper. this should do the job right http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...at-with-probe/
  • 07-12-2007, 12:15 AM
    Kagez28
    Re: Thermostat Help
    i am gonna go ahead and advise you to not buy that thermostat. i have heard many stories about it, from fluctuating temps to it sticking on and leaving the heating element to run full power. not a very reliable thermostat.

    go for a ranco or a johnson control. they are quality and can handle alot of power. i have my rack running on a JC. if you have the funds, lot of keepers use helix or herpstats. they are alittle more on the expensive side, but are worth every penny.

    try reptilebasics.com Rich is a great guy and will help you out.
  • 07-12-2007, 12:30 AM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    i ended up buying that anyways cuz i dont have tim to save up my room get hot as hell. if it malfunctions i can send back to manufacture and get a new one or my money back.
  • 07-12-2007, 04:53 AM
    Chuck
    Re: Thermostat Help
    I think the point is if it malfunction you might end up burning your house down. Or burning your animal. Cheap thermostat are some thing to stay away from IMO. Do what you have to but save up and spend the 100 Bucks for a herpstat they are great quality, accurate within a degree or something like that. Most of all they have a fail safe built in to them if they ever malfunction they shut off to keep your house and your animal safe. just my 2 cents

    Chuck
  • 07-12-2007, 10:16 PM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    remember expensive isnt always better jsut because the herp stats cost 100$ dont mean its gonan be 100% perfect. my work ues them for the coolers and they fail all the time always replacing them. so its a matter of prefrence.
  • 07-13-2007, 03:33 AM
    Chuck
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Nothing is 100% perfect but I am of the opinion you get what you pay for. Just so you know you are the first person who I have ever heard say anything negative about a Herpstat. Good luck



    Chuck
  • 07-13-2007, 10:46 AM
    chimpkin
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Personally, everyone I know who has purchased a "Round top" (ESU, Alife etc.) thermostat has had it fail in one way or another. It can go either way, kick off and stay off (freeze your animal) or kick on and stay on (Cook your animal).


    I have a few rancos and have not had any trouble with them. I have heard an increasing number people who have had trouble with them. I am thinking of switching to Johnson Controls or Herpstat.

    I have never heard of a Herpstat failing.
  • 07-13-2007, 11:02 AM
    juddb
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    remember expensive isnt always better jsut because the herp stats cost 100$ dont mean its gonan be 100% perfect. my work ues them for the coolers and they fail all the time always replacing them. so its a matter of prefrence.

    They use Herpstats for coolers??? :eek:
  • 07-13-2007, 11:03 AM
    juddb
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Im gonna have to go to your job and do some maintenance on your coolers. ;)
  • 07-13-2007, 11:11 AM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    remember expensive isnt always better jsut because the herp stats cost 100$ dont mean its gonan be 100% perfect. my work ues them for the coolers and they fail all the time always replacing them. so its a matter of prefrence.

    your company uses herpstat thermostats? I'm not sure why a business would use a thermostat specifically designed for use with reptiles for their cooler...

    Personally, and not to call you out too much here, but it sounds like you're trying to defend purchasing a lower quality product because you don't want to dish out the cash for something that's proven to work. I feel like that because I too have done it.

    When I first got my ball pythons I was working with a large (55g) tank and was having trouble maintaining conditions (temp, humidity). I was told several times to not waste MORE money trying to make it work and just go to tubs. After sinking $45 for a UTH, $17 for a sheet of glass to seperate it into two enclosures, $20 for a screen top that didn't fit great, and $30 for lights and still not getting the results I needed I did the right thing and went to target and bought the tubs. Total I've got $20 invested in each tub, plus the cost of my thermometers ($10 each).

    Believe me when I say that the people here KNOW what they're talking about, and you'd be wise to listen to their advice.
  • 07-13-2007, 11:18 AM
    elevatethis
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    remember expensive isnt always better jsut because the herp stats cost 100$ dont mean its gonan be 100% perfect. my work ues them for the coolers and they fail all the time always replacing them. so its a matter of prefrence.

    The Herpstat and the Helix DBS-1000 are not rated for very high wattage...500 watts for each.

    You said you were using them for "coolers"...not sure what you mean by this...but I know that there are a lot of refridgeration or cooling units out there that would probably draw more power than 500 watts. That being the case, you could be using the thermostats incorrectly, and causing them to fail.
  • 07-13-2007, 11:58 AM
    bigrich0086
    Re: Thermostat Help
    not for your huge coolers jsut small coolers like open end caps and stuff. they look jsut like herpstats i might os over looked it with tkai na closer look. but they fail all the time cuz of the people always poking into the coolers thats y. we use the rancos and johnsons for the freezers and big coolers
  • 07-13-2007, 12:12 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Thermostat Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigrich0086
    not for your huge coolers jsut small coolers like open end caps and stuff. they look jsut like herpstats i might os over looked it with tkai na closer look. but they fail all the time cuz of the people always poking into the coolers thats y. we use the rancos and johnsons for the freezers and big coolers

    I'm trying to translate your english but are you saying that you aren't even sure that they are herpstats, but they just look like them?

    I wouldn't go saying bad things about a product when you aren't even sure that's what you are using....
  • 07-13-2007, 12:26 PM
    Kagez28
    Re: Thermostat Help
    my old restaurant used rancos in the walk in cooler. the ranco was outside my the door and the probe inside. i only worked there for 4 years but it never failed. the only reason i bought a johnson control over a ranco was beause they are smaller.

    i wish i could find the thread i read on another forum about a guy who had one of those and it failed, ended up cooking his $3,000 or so collection. he tried to talk to the company and they would have nothing to do with it.

    if you think you can just send it back and everything will be alright, i am afraid you are sadly mistaken. the risk in my opinion is not worth the reward (low cost).
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