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  • 07-10-2007, 03:48 PM
    N4S
    Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Anyone ever walk into a pet shop and see a proven morph sitting behind the glass for regular price like in the 40-65.00 range?

    I seen a pastel today. Really wanted to snatch it up but really dont have the room for it.
  • 07-10-2007, 03:56 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I doubt it was a pastel. I don't know of anyone breeding pastels that would mistakenly sell one as a normal. Never say never, but I'd say the odds are slim to none at best.
  • 07-10-2007, 03:57 PM
    jamesw
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S
    Anyone ever walk into a pet shop and see a proven morph sitting behind the glass for regular price like in the 40-65.00 range?

    Quite the opposite, i see normals as "high yellow", "high gold", "weird pattern" for like 200-250, and most are males.
  • 07-10-2007, 03:59 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    It happens occasionally.
  • 07-10-2007, 04:09 PM
    NickMyers03
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    pet stores that do not buy normal males from breeders will buy 10-100+ lots of snakes just like some members here do. most are unsorted so there is a chance of getting a CH pastel or CH yellowbelly but agian its playing the odds. it can happen
  • 07-12-2007, 04:08 PM
    erobinson
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    There's a couple of pet stores in my area that buy from local breeders. But I never was luckly enough to find any mispriced morphs.
  • 07-12-2007, 04:15 PM
    darkdreamer
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I want to accidentally find a pied ball.... :taz:
  • 07-12-2007, 04:17 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I think that's everyone's dream, isn't it?

    Walk into a pet store and see a YB or Ghost or whatever for $29.95 :)
  • 07-12-2007, 04:28 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Hmmm biggest mistake I most often see in pet stores is selling a snake as "healthy and eats well" when it's anything but. :mad:
  • 07-12-2007, 04:34 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sputnik
    I think that's everyone's dream, isn't it?
    Walk into a pet store and see a YB or Ghost or whatever for $29.95 :)

    Wait a few years....you will see it all the time.
  • 07-12-2007, 04:36 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I'd personally like to know where stores and larger breeders buy CH balls in bulk... not that I'm going to be doing that any time soon, but I'd still like to know...
  • 07-12-2007, 04:39 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CntrlF8
    I'd personally like to know where stores and larger breeders buy CH balls in bulk... not that I'm going to be doing that any time soon, but I'd still like to know...

    Just a general outline...

    The African dealers get them from 'farms'.....Importers get them from dealers in Africa......then they are distributed and sold.....pretty simple.

    During import season, all you have to do is call around or even check classified ads and you will see all the bulk sales.
  • 07-12-2007, 04:49 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    So for CH, is the process that they go out and capture gravid females, or they wait until the eggs are laid and take them?
  • 07-12-2007, 04:52 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CntrlF8
    So for CH, is the process that they go out and capture gravid females, or they wait until the eggs are laid and take them?

    A little bit of both.
  • 07-12-2007, 05:03 PM
    darkdreamer
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I wonder how that impacts the BP natural environment where this is being done?
  • 07-12-2007, 05:14 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkdreamer
    I wonder how that impacts the BP natural environment where this is being done?

    Well, I just did a little bit of research on the subject...

    One of the primary locations for "farming" BP's is Ghana. In Ghana farmers are charged a tariff of $1 for each egg gathered or laid by wild-caught gravid females. They are also charged a tariff of $1 for each baby they export. The estimated wild population of BP's in Ghana is 8-13 million, with an annual hatch rate of 9-14 million. According to the information I read the gravid females are released after laying, and some of the babies are also released to maintain a healthy natural population. Due to the Tariff's BP's purchased from Ghana have an average price increase of $4-5 at the pet store, or the pet store eats the profit margin and sells at their regular price (or $50 off in the case of PetCo, currently...)

    Now don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that CB is the way to go, but Ghana at least seems to be regulating the industry of CH and WC BP's somewhat.
  • 07-12-2007, 05:23 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    I remember a study done that said the wild population of ball pythons is actually UP, not down too.
    This was attributed to more farming making it more rodent friendly, and less larger predetors, making a larger food supply. Whatever the reason it was good to read that the ball python in the wild is still doing well.
    Wolfy
  • 07-12-2007, 05:30 PM
    dalvers63
    Re: Stores selling morphs by mistake at reg price
    Here is a link to the study wolfy-hound is referring to...it's rather long and full of data but is a great read (especially the Appendixs)

    http://www.stevegorzulapresents.com/...thon_ghana.pdf
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