Pied to Pied

I heard a rumor you can't breed pied to pied has anyone else heard this?

That is definitely a rumor. It is done quite often.

mmmmm NOPE...Why did the person say it couldn't be done ???

*shakes head and walks away*

This is as good as the komodo dragon breathing fire thread. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

*shakes head and walks away*

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Me too.

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Originally Posted by panthercz

This is as good as the komodo dragon breathing fire thread. :rolleyes:

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nah, the komodo had a funnier write up lol

Where did you hear this and did he/she give a reason they wouldnt breed? A Pied a is skin pigment problem and since the snake doesnt really know that part of it is all white, its not going to stop it from breeding.

Not true at all.

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Originally Posted by Chase13

Where did you hear this and did he/she give a reason they wouldnt breed? A Pied a is skin pigment problem and since the snake doesnt really know that part of it is all white, its not going to stop it from breeding.

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it is not a problem at all. It is simply a genetic mutation.

NO NO NO it was said that they would breed but the baby's would come out goofed up. (deformed) Not that they just wouldn't breed. If you bred two pieds together there is supposedly some genetic defect that the babys will be deformed. Thats all. I don't think it's true but a friend of mine (Adam Howell) if you must know bred two pieds and got 5 deformed baby's. I have never heard of this but there was a rumor spoken to him about you can't breed them together because of genetics? I thought he was full of crap but I thought I would ask everyone else instead I get a bunch of answers I didn't want to hear .. I guess I didn't represent the question as I meant it.

Perhaps you had it mixed up between snakes and horses? Because breeding two high-white horses together means the resulting foal has a higher chance of developing a disease related to the gene, which is fatal. It sounds like maybe someone got that mixed up...?


I don't know the whole genetics behind the horse thing, but I have a friend who does and she mentioned this a few times. What was asked sounded similar, so I figured I'd make the comment. Not trying to start an argument or rile anybody up or anything.

However, I seriously doubt it applies to BPs.

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Not true at all.

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That is the reply I was looking for. If anyone knows, it's Pete Kahl, and Allison works there. Thanks for the post Allison.

Daniel A,

Does you friend know the background lines of the two pieds he bred together? Were they related together... Like brother/sister, mother/son, cousins, etc? I know that inbreeding (any kind of animal or snake for that fact) you run a high possibility of getting deformed offspring. I can guarantee that breeding a non related pied to another non related pied can be done and is done. Any animal that is bred can produce deformed, premature offspring. It's just one of those risk you run in the breeding world.

Also, thank you Tim. :)

Something I forgot to add to my last post. I know if you have a heat spike or drop while the eggs are in the incubator, that too has been known to form deformities in the babies.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

it is not a problem at all. It is simply a genetic mutation.

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I didn't mean problem like something that needs to be fixed. Piebald is just the result of the reduction of all pigments on parts of the skin. I was just saying bluntly that the skin pigments got messed up. I didnt mean it was bad.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

That is the reply I was looking for. If anyone knows, it's Pete Kahl, and Allison works there. Thanks for the post Allison.

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That's what I thought . Allison works for pete? Talk about having a killer job! I bet the discount rocks! :)

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Originally Posted by lillyorchid

Daniel A,

Does you friend know the background lines of the two pieds he bred together? Were they related together... Like brother/sister, mother/son, cousins, etc? I know that inbreeding (any kind of animal or snake for that fact) you run a high possibility of getting deformed offspring. I can guarantee that breeding a non related pied to another non related pied can be done and is done. Any animal that is bred can produce deformed, premature offspring. It's just one of those risk you run in the breeding world.

Also, thank you Tim. :)

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They were they were daughter and father. Thats what I thought might have done it.

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Originally Posted by ConstrAddiction

They were they were daughter and father. Thats what I thought might have done it.

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It's far more likely that the eggs had problems due to something happening during the incubation.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

It's far more likely that the eggs had problems due to something happening during the incubation.

-adam

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Exactly..

father/daughter breeding is not an uncommon practice in the reptile world, especially when trying to prove out a morph.

i wrote something but nevermind lol. Pointless post. ignore.