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  • 07-10-2007, 12:23 PM
    Reptilian
    Not good not good not good...!
    OMG! I am so freaking out here!

    My fiance came to me and asked if I put Phantom, my cornsnake in the glass tank. I told him no, so the only thing that could have happen was that he got out of his new home. I just gave both my corns new tubs and I noticed the lids were slightly warped. I didn't put any thought into it after that.

    Well I go to where the snakes are and I find Phantom sitting under a spare glass aquarium I had (the thing is on rubber feet so there is a half inch gap). So I pick him up and ask what does he think he's doing out. As I pick him up I notice he's covered in bites and the lower 6 inches of his body is limp.

    I put him in his cage, which has newspaper as substraite and take out his wooden hide so he doesn't get anymore debre in his wounds.

    The only thing I can think is that he got into the rats cage, which is right next to the snakes cages. And the three of 'em ganged up on Phantom.

    So I called my vet and got an appointment for 2:45 today. I had to go thru a list of vets that I pulled from the phone book because my old vets office *just* closed down. And I hadn't gotten around to calling for a new vet.

    I noticed when he was moving, the way he slithered his upper body follows but the lower 6 inches just drags along. The body seems misshapen at the one point and I can't tell if it's nerve damage or they broke his back...

    ...either way i am in a panic. I can't tell if he's in pain...he doesn't rear up or strike...

    Please keep us in your thoughts that he pulls thru. I can't begin to imagine what the vet is going to say.
  • 07-10-2007, 12:26 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Best of luck with him. sound like a bite may have injured its spine.

    You and he will be in my thoughts. Let us know how it goes.
  • 07-10-2007, 12:31 PM
    steveo
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    yeah sounds like what freakie frog said :(
    lets hope not though , my thoughts are with you and your corn to make a speedy recovery
  • 07-10-2007, 12:35 PM
    Gerrior
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    I hope all goes well for you and phantom!
  • 07-10-2007, 12:46 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    oh i'm so sorry to hear this. it's amazing how small of a gap snakes can escape from... especially corn snakes.

    please keep us posted... sending reiki healing light to you and your snake!
  • 07-10-2007, 12:54 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Sound like a bite may have injured its spine.


    Are spinal injuries permenent? I mean can he live a happy life? I am worried, will he be able to have BM and pass uriates? I wish I had a sooner appointment...
  • 07-10-2007, 12:55 PM
    ReptileQueen
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Sorry to hear about phantom! Hope its nothing serious.
  • 07-10-2007, 12:56 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    no can even begin to guess at this point. wait for your vet :hug:
  • 07-10-2007, 01:11 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilian
    Are spinal injuries permenent? I mean can he live a happy life? I am worried, will he be able to have BM and pass uriates? I wish I had a sooner appointment...

    Because snakes need the nerves in the lower part of their body to control their lower half. So I'll say no.
  • 07-10-2007, 01:42 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Because snakes need the nerves in the lower part of their body to control their lower half. So I'll say no.


    Well that's really not good....my poor Phantom! I'll most certainly wait to see what the vet has to say...
  • 07-10-2007, 04:20 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Back from the vet. He wants the swelling to go down to see if that will help Phantom move his lower 1/4th. He gave me some Baytrill to give him and wants me to feed him as normal to see if he can produce a BM. So for now we just wait.

    I got home to fix Phantom's cage. I then gave up on doing that the lid wont' close. So I put him back in his old bin. I then when to check on Uno to switch her into her old bin and guess what, she's escaped.

    Today is *not* a good snake day for me. I have to leave for work in 5 minutes to.

    *sigh*

    Keep the good thoughts rolling my way. I need 'em.
  • 07-10-2007, 04:25 PM
    ReptileQueen
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Well its the wait and see game. I hope phantom pulls through.
  • 07-10-2007, 04:33 PM
    Jmiller250
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Good luck to you, I just had to go through a rough experience the past 2 days and its not a fun thing. I hope everything goes well and you and Phantom and I hope you find Uno. Best wishes.

    Jeremy
  • 07-10-2007, 09:24 PM
    Izzi
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Good luck! I'm sure everything will work out fine!!
  • 07-10-2007, 09:58 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jmiller250
    Good luck to you, I just had to go through a rough experience the past 2 days and its not a fun thing. I hope everything goes well and you and Phantom and I hope you find Uno. Best wishes.


    Thank you all for your good vibes. I am kinda wary to feel anything positive or negative with Phantom. Like I said I just need to wait it out.

    As for Uno, my fiance keeps reassuring me we'll find her. Deep down I know we will. We're in a 1 bedroom apartment she can't go to far. It's hard to keep calm cause they don't make any noise and can go weeks without food and considering she ate last week (today was feeding day) she'll be hungry, but can survive weeks for sure on no food. We layed some water in a bowl down. I'll try laying a heatpad down and will keep an eye on the cats.

    Again thanks for the good vibes.
  • 07-11-2007, 11:50 AM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Some mixed news today...

    I found Uno in the hall closet. She looks well. I gave her some water and she drank and drank and drank.

    Phantom on the other hand didn't eat his rat pink. The vet told me to feed as normal and he didn't eat. So I am going to wait till after I give all of the baytrill to feed him again. (Baytrill is 2cc every 48 hours and I have 4 shots to give.)
  • 07-11-2007, 11:59 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    2cc?? I hope you meant 0.2cc or even 0.02cc. 2cc is enough for a cow.
  • 07-11-2007, 12:38 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
    2cc?? I hope you meant 0.2cc or even 0.02cc. 2cc is enough for a cow.


    Sorry, it's 0.02cc.
  • 07-11-2007, 12:43 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    LoL, I was about to say. That's a BIIIGGG corn snake ;)
  • 07-11-2007, 01:38 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
    LoL, I was about to say. That's a BIIIGGG corn snake ;)

    That would be awesome if he was that big! My big baby Phantom would be a sweetpea. Imagine the damage he'd cause by tounge flicking. Lamps are broken, people are thrown thru the air....
  • 07-11-2007, 01:42 PM
    adizziedoll
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilian
    That would be awesome if he was that big! My big baby Phantom would be a sweetpea. Imagine the damage he'd cause by tounge flicking. Lamps are broken, people are thrown thru the air....

    :8: What an image!
  • 07-11-2007, 07:59 PM
    Reptilian
    Re: Not good not good not good...!
    Well with having found Uno, I did a check of her over all and found she has two puncture wounds about a half inch above her vent, but on her back. She passed uriates after drinking water and it only slightly swollen. She's alert, active, crawling around, have complete movement of her body.

    I've applied a benadine solution to her wounds.

    Phantom when I checked on him has moved the lower inch of his tail a bit. He's able to curl it up slightly, so that's a positive. I did notice that when I ran my fingers over his tail, he opened his vent as if trying to pass uriates or have a BM. But all that peeked out was a pale yellow thing. A gland maybe... I don't knwo how to really describe it. I'll try and get a picture.
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