Pastels...

I have been doing some searching on pastels...and well I need some help from the more experienced people on here.

This might be a little much to ask. But I would like to know every known line of pastel and if one is available..a website for them.

Also which ones "brown out" and which keep their color.

Ones I have found so far...(these I would like to know about brown out factor as well)

I can't wait till the F.I.R.Expo so I can learn...I have never really seen any morphs in person so all I can go buy is pictures on sites.

Graziani Pastel
Nerd Lemon Pastel
Enchi Pastel
Roussi Zebra Pastel
Matrix Blonde Pastel (can't find a site)
Bell Pastel (can't find a site)

http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgpas.htm helped a little but didnt answer all my questions.

mine ( graz )

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ast020707c.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ast020707b.jpg

just seems to get brighter with each shed ...he's a year come October.

Lemons:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...de/pastels.jpg

I also like to know which lines make the best pewters..

Oo! Oo! Here's my boy!
The Reverend. [no idea what line, just like showing off] He seems to be browning out as we go.Actually he is considerably darker than when we first got him. It's only been a few months too...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ady/rev004.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ady/rev005.jpg

Here's my lemon pastel. When choosing a pastel, remember that orange turns brown, so you want to find one with as little orange as possible as a baby. I've also been told to look for the lightest head possible as well.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...nstonJune2.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...nstonJune5.jpg

Here are some of my pastels
Nerd lemon
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w.../LemonGirl.jpg

Graziani
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...onnastrike.jpg

Matrix blonde
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ondeBellie.jpg

No name line lemon
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...randRaquel.jpg

Another no name line lemon

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ewildthing.jpg

In my opinion the lines aren't as important as the individual snake itself. In person my blonde is the brightest yellow with less brown to yellow ratio but all pastels will brown out, just some more than others. Hope this helps.

Enchi's are different than pastels, and the prices shows it.
Lines dont matter except the deserts and stuff. I have a graziani and perfer those.

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Originally Posted by Royal Tartan

mine ( graz )

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ast020707c.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ast020707b.jpg

just seems to get brighter with each shed ...he's a year come October.

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Do all Graziani Pastels get lighter with age?

I really cant answer that from experience , he is my first pastel I have owned. The main thing about Graziani Pastels are there blushing , thats supposed to be there best point . I think I am lucky with this one tho ' ,he is very bright on the sides, only ' darkening ' when he is in slough. At the end of the day , look at as many as you can and go with what you like . I reckon some will fade and some wont , probs applies to all morphs ...depends on the quality of the genes ( IMHO ) , this is where Line Breeding ( to enhance a trait ) would play a major part. HTH

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Do all Graziani Pastels get lighter with age?

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No. Most brown out like other pastel lines. I really love my matrix line blond pastels and NERD lemon pastels because they are so amazing as babies. But even these brown out to a degree.

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Originally Posted by westcoastjungle

In my opinion the lines aren't as important as the individual snake itself. In person my blonde is the brightest yellow with less brown to yellow ratio but all pastels will brown out, just some more than others. Hope this helps.

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I agree!

Here's one of my blond pastels I produced last year.
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ita2_97846.JPG

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

I have been doing some searching on pastels...and well I need some help from the more experienced people on here.

This might be a little much to ask. But I would like to know every known line of pastel and if one is available..a website for them.

Also which ones "brown out" and which keep their color.

Ones I have found so far...(these I would like to know about brown out factor as well)

I can't wait till the F.I.R.Expo so I can learn...I have never really seen any morphs in person so all I can go buy is pictures on sites.

Graziani Pastel
Nerd Lemon Pastel
Enchi Pastel
Roussi Zebra Pastel
Matrix Blonde Pastel (can't find a site)
Bell Pastel (can't find a site)

http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgpas.htm helped a little but didnt answer all my questions.

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Hey,
I will be at the FIRE show, if you need help with Pastels i would be willing to walk around with you and explain about the different bloodlines and what to look for in a nice pastel. We will have a table you should be able to find us without a problem
Hope to see you there
Jon

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Originally Posted by NextWorldExotics

Hey,
I will be at the FIRE show, if you need help with Pastels i would be willing to walk around with you and explain about the different bloodlines and what to look for in a nice pastel. We will have a table you should be able to find us without a problem
Hope to see you there
Jon

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I will take you up on that. Hope on buying something there!! Pastel, Orange Hypo...something

See you there :D

My personal fav is the Graziani Line because I feel they make the nicest supers. I also really like the blondes. I have seen Graziani line pastels that browned out a lot and I have seen a few that where still nice and bright after 2 years. Keep your eyes open and do your research, ultimatly it's up to what you like.
Good Luck this weekend!

Here is my 2005 Graziani male. I bought him in 2006 from Dan and Colette Sutherland, who bred him out of a Super Graziani male and a normal female.
Ruger!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...rugerwhole.jpg

Here's my Bell Line Male Pastel. He's a bit bigger now and i'm too lazy to get new pictures.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7122/dsc00431jk0.jpg
Shot with DSC-W50

Here's my 06 Lemon Pastel(also a classic jungle), Orth, who is about 900g and is going to be a daddy soon :)

Baby pic:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...sy/pastel1.jpg

Now:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0025-2.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0010-1.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0013-1.jpg

for the breeders out there...what is the price for 07 baby pastels male and female...thinking of picking one up this weekend need to know how much to bring...i dont own a credit card :(

Males are running around $150 - 300 depending on line and color...
Females are around $250 - $450 depending on line and color...

Pastels rock. I hatched 3 females this year and don't think I gonna part with them.

Hey Jon did you get the shirts?

Got them yesturday, gonna call you today... They are awesome! Shannon stole the Honey Bee shirt. Im gonna get a pic of her in it and post it on here.
THANKS!
Jon

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Originally Posted by NextWorldExotics

Males are running around $150 - 300 depending on line and color...
Females are around $250 - $450 depending on line and color...

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sounds good to me...see ya saturday.