Help my tub setup is doin worse than glass!

I am having trouble setting my tub up I dunno what size tub I needed so I just got a sterilite 31 qt from walmart and an UTH under one side I have a rheostat dimmer and a 500R but neither are getting the temps right. my accurite is reading 74% humidity 83.8 on heated side and 81.9 on cool side and the pad is on high. what am I doin wrong! I don't know if it is my air in the house fluctuating cuz my air isn't working the tempurature in the house just flows with what climate is like outside! Help...............

check your dimmer.

make sure everything is plugged in.

and if possible... attach a pic please :)

What is the actual temp of the room? How big is your snake, that could help with the tub size...and do you have holes burned into the tub?

Right now trying the 500R again but it is plugged up probe is taped onto UTH under tank and yes there are holes souldered in it but I covered alot to see if the temp would jump up! My Bp is about 20in long and well rounded not fat just normal! I will take a pic of what I can!

This is the whole outside view I taped up alot of holes to see if heat would rise...
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This is inside please let me know if u see anything wrong!
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This Is my dimmer it isn't connected right now I am trying the 500R below that!
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The UTH is under right side and thermostat is taped to the UTH also! any advice?

A couple things... you said your thermostat probe is taped directly to your UTH. What are you setting the thermostat to? It should probably be set a few degrees higher in order to obtain a proper warm side temp as you lose a few degrees going through the plastic and substrate.

Your newspaper substrate should only be a couple pages thick.

The thermometer probe should be placed over the substrate in the warm side hide in order to give you an accurate measurement of the warm side. The hide will often trap heat so if you try to get the warm side to the low 90s, the inside of the hide will be much warmer.

Also, what kind of UTH did you get? Is it designed for reptiles?

Ok I changed my placement of probe I thought that was a funny place to put it in first place others suggested it tho so i tried it! I have a repti therm UTH by zoo med made for 20g tanks.....

Where should I place the thermometer on heated side to get right temp someone told me in the hide is that correct?

Anyone?

I'm sorry I noticed I aksed about the wrong placement what I mean to ask Is about the probe on the thermostat.....When i put it on the actual UTH I can't get the temp up in the tub higher than 83.4 and now i have it on the insdie of tub on the substrate to measure the temp where the snake will actually be and the temp is rising again so should I leave it inside (it is secured so the snake can't move it!)

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Where should I place the thermometer on heated side to get right temp someone told me in the hide is that correct?

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Yes, place the thermometer probe in the warm side hide. The thermostat probe is fine on the UTH. You want the thermostat probe somewhere secure so that the snake can't move it and cause the temps to fluctuate. Some people will get a small piece of tape and adhere it to the newspaper, but make sure that the tape is stuck well to the newspaper so that if it gets unstuck the newspaper will tear instead of exposing the snake to a sticky piece of tape.

When you say you have the thermostat probe taped to the UTH...on what side of the UTH are you talking about?

Just to make sure it should be sandwhiched between the tub and the UTH...not on the bottom of the UTH facing the desk. Most petstore UTH are somewhat directional (they are insulated to send heat up away from a desk)- meaning the bottom facing the stand/desk will be much cooler then the warm side facing the tub...just want to make sure you have it positioned correctly as this could cause the temp issue you have. :)

Dang I did put it on the wrong side ain't that a B! why didn't I think of that! Thanks for gettin me back on track! So if my temps are right with the Thermostat probe inside the the tub bottom on heated side should I move it to in between tub and UTH?

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Dang I did put it on the wrong side ain't that a B! why didn't I think of that! Thanks for gettin me back on track! So if my temps are right with the Thermostat probe inside the the tub bottom on heated side should I move it to in between tub and UTH?

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You don't have to move it since it is working...but here are 2 reasons why you might want to.

1. You said you have it attached down...how? if taped you run the risk of the tape coming loose and getting attached to your snake.
2. It is another wire in the tank that will be in the way when you go to clean...if hooked down then you also run the risk of stuff sticking to it (my snakes always seem to poop on the temp probes forcing me to remove them and try and get them clean. :rolleyes:

In the end it is up to you...you can always leave it for now and see if it becomes and issue.

I moved it to between and I can't get the temp to go back up to 90 degrees why is that?

I am Going to turn everything off let the UTH cool down then try it again maybe if the mat starts from cold insted of already heated it may do better! brb

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I moved it to between and I can't get the temp to go back up to 90 degrees why is that?

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Remember you will need to up the Thermostat setting higher to hold 90' (on top of the substrate) as now you are going through the tub and substrate (with the heat...but measuring at the heat source)...where before you were on top of the substrate.

I like your idea in the next post...cool down then adjust it.

I think I need a better thermostat it won't adjust high enough to reach 90s for some reason when its on the UTH......so i rigged it to the inside without tape tho and its back up! I guess that is the 500R zoo med for u! I will just use it like this till i can afford a better brand....

did you try to plug the uth on the other power input slot? try that.