Ri?

Hey guys. My new female Eve is an 06 I got at a show and she's not eating. (It's been a month, but the vet said she was healthy at that time) I just talked to the guy I bought her from and he says to try rat pups, and I'm going to do that next. Her temps and humidity are set, and she's got the 2 identical hides plus a branch thing to hide under.

My question is... I found some crap in her water bowl that kinda reminded me of mucus. IDK what could have caused it or anything. I did see her yawn 2x the other night, from the side and didn't see any gunk, but I couldn't see straight down her throat or anything. She stays on the warmer side of her tank most of the time and roams a little at night, but does seem to be settling in nicely. What could the crap in the water bowl be?

Also, snakes can't make any sort of noise right? Last weekend we discovered a new noise in my room. My guy thought it was too routine to be an animal (I thought maybe something had fallen down the chimney or something) in distress or anything. He thinks its some kind of machine with dying batteries. It comes from a similar place as where this snake lives, but I just don't know what it is, or how to describe it, but it doesn't interest my cats and dogs... It's been going on for like 10 days now though at least. :confused:

When you hold him, do you ever see mucus fall out? A friend of mine tried getting me to deal with his snake with RI and whenever I held it mucus would come out of its' mouth. Your best bet is to get it to the vet and let the vet decide

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

When you hold him, do you ever see mucus fall out? A friend of mine tried getting me to deal with his snake with RI and whenever I held it mucus would come out of its' mouth. Your best bet is to get it to the vet and let the vet decide

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Oh no, she shows no signs of any issues. I have held her and looked at her face, but I haven't looked down her throat. She's very strong and active, and seems to be doing normal BP stuff... although she does roam her tank for a bit every night, but isn't that 'normal'? Maybe she just 'peed' in her water and that's what I saw? How long does an RI take to develop and how can it happen? I just switched her over to repti bark from carpet maybe 2 weeks ago and that upped her humidity for a couple days, but it's back down to 55% with her temps 80-85/90-95 using an UTH and a ceramic heat source on top of the tank. (and I don't shut it off at night, it's always that warm) I had her checked over by a vet at the beginning of May when I got her, and the vet said she looked remarkable and healthy. She also said it was ok if she didn't eat for a while while I'm trying to get her used to f/t (she lived with a breeder who also breeds food)


I know how this community likes pics, so here's my girl:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...wn/evie1-1.jpg

My ideas - I have a couple of snakes that only pee in their water bowls...looks like a ball of yellowish snot with some ribbons of it...not sure this is the same for you. If it was mucus then when you picked him up you would surely see it in his mouth since snakes can't cough it up.

Also, if the sound has been going on for 10 days and it loud enough for everyone to hear constantly then you should easily be able to tell if it is the snake or not...as he would be doing it all the time.

I would get him out and just check him out...look for mucus (use a Qtip to look in his mouth) and just listen to his breathing. Any mucus or wheezing and I would get him to the VET ASAP as his RI is very far along.

If not then you really need to figure out what the sound is...it could be some sort of electrical short that is arching and so you don't want a fire.

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

Maybe she just 'peed' in her water and that's what I saw?

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That is what I was thinking.

I have one bp that will pee in his water bowl EVERYTIME!

It drives me nuts!

It is so gross.

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I have a box of useless crap over in the same area as Evie that probably holds the answer to the strange noise. I just heard it long enough and am so fixated on this damn snake LOL that I started to worry that I was hearing my snake gasping and not knowing that's what it is. But I really think that if the noise I am hearing was gasping from a snake that I'd be able to see signs of distress in the snake. I just wanted to bounce it off you experts here.

So what kinds of noises can a snake actually make?

That is exactly what hers looked like, ribbons of snot, thank you! THAT makes me feel better. I have a tendency to freak out about things for which there are simple explanations when it comes to these snakes. I think I'm still freaked out by the thought of "playing GOD" and controlling every aspect of their lives, maybe.

When I hold her, I do get to see her face to face and get a pretty good look at her. Like I said, she's definitely strong and acting 'normal' and if that's just pee in her water bowl, then I am feeling quite confident that she's not actually sick. Of course I'll be sure to keep an eye on her.

It seemed off to me that she'd develop an RI one month after being checked out healthy. I'm glad I was just trippin :)

Now let's all hope and pray that she starts eating soon! I'm going to the guy who had her for the last year to buy frozen rat pups for her. He said that she was eating live rat pups with him, but I'm trying to get her to eat frozen food. Plus I think rats are great pets. I'm a big wuss. (Don't worry for her, I have a few guys that will feed her live if it comes down to that, she won't starve, I just won't be a part of it) I'm concerned about feeding her rat pups for one reason though, and that's that he told me that some of the others he had like Evie were also fasting right now... does this maybe mean that the rat pups are just a shade too big maybe?

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

Now let's all hope and pray that she starts eating soon! I'm going to the guy who had her for the last year to buy frozen rat pups for her. He said that she was eating live rat pups with him, but I'm trying to get her to eat frozen food. Plus I think rats are great pets. I'm a big wuss. (Don't worry for her, I have a few guys that will feed her live if it comes down to that, she won't starve, I just won't be a part of it) I'm concerned about feeding her rat pups for one reason though, and that's that he told me that some of the others he had like Evie were also fasting right now... does this maybe mean that the rat pups are just a shade too big maybe?

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I would recommend you stick to live rat pups for the first few feedings and then try to switch her over. Keep in mind she is in a new place, new surroundings, new home, new smells...the last thing she needs is new food...this may be why she isn't eating right now. Give her a chance to settle in and start eating well then attempt to change her over. :)

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I would recommend you stick to live rat pups for the first few feedings and then try to switch her over. Keep in mind she is in a new place, new surroundings, new home, new smells...the last thing she needs is new food...this may be why she isn't eating right now. Give her a chance to settle in and start eating well then attempt to change her over. :)

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What will I do with it if she doesn't eat it, though?

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

What will I do with it if she doesn't eat it, though?

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Unfortunately that is the risk with live...depending on how old the pup is it might be able to make it another week before you try again (you would need a small cage, water and food). Or you could take it back to the breeder/store you got it from (not sure if this is doable or not)...or if really young (so it can't attack your snake) you could leave it with her overnight this might make her more comfortable and likely to eat on her own time (I do this with my hatchlings).

gib,


here are video's of baby's ri if you remember me telling you, please watch and for others to watch too, they are sticky's at other ball fourms....

but this was a full out RI


video 1-- at 13 second mark 3/9/2007

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23...IMGP1122-1.jpg


video 2-- at 26 second mark on 3/9/2007

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23...h_IMGP1123.jpg

LORD JACKAL you were right. She finally ate today. I took her to the guy who's place she was at before I got her and bought a live rat pup and 2 frozen rat pups. I also had to get some mouse fuzzies for my sister's corn. She finally killed the pup tonight around 9. The breeder assured me the pup couldn't hurt her, and I believed them because it took him several hours and he never figured out how to get out of a hand towel, and he was so young he couldn't leave his mother yet apparently, she said he wouldn't survive without his mother anyway... even if she didn't eat him. But she did. I heard it scream and it upset me so bad I had to go outside. At least I know what time she takes dinner now though for when I try to feed her next time. :)

My boy BP ate 2 weanling mice, which he is u sually only offered one a week, but it fully disappears in him, and he was eager to take the second one. If he eats for me next week, maybe I'll start upping his food occasionally like that to help him grow. He's just a little thing still, but he's cute as hell!

My sister's corn ate 2 fuzzy mice too. We'd been feeding him one at a time too, but he's almost 2 feet long now and isn't really gaining any girth, he snatched em both up so easy, he's the easiest feeder ever, eats right off a paper plate however many mice I give him... just no rat pinkies, tyvm. I think he would have eaten 2 more fuzzies if I'd have had them available! Same with him, if I don't see any soaking or fasting, I'd like to maybe offer seconds every now and then to the boys...

Man oh man, thanks for posting those videos... how'd the little ones fare? I'm very glad to say that I've seen the snake and heard the mystery noise at the same time, and I've held the snake and heard the noise at the same time and there's no doubt to me now that the snake isn't making the sound, and that she's just fine and dandy... she ate for me tonight. Yipeee!

RIP cute little bugger, thanks for feeding my little girl :(

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

LORD JACKAL you were right. She finally ate today. I took her to the guy who's place she was at before I got her and bought a live rat pup and 2 frozen rat pups. I also had to get some mouse fuzzies for my sister's corn. She finally killed the pup tonight around 9. The breeder assured me the pup couldn't hurt her, and I believed them because it took him several hours and he never figured out how to get out of a hand towel, and he was so young he couldn't leave his mother yet apparently, she said he wouldn't survive without his mother anyway... even if she didn't eat him. But she did. I heard it scream and it upset me so bad I had to go outside. At least I know what time she takes dinner now though for when I try to feed her next time. :)

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This is great news Congrats!!!:D I am sure you are really happy and so is she now that she is full. Just give her a couple more weeks of this then you can try and switch her to F/T. Keep us posted.:)

I never wanna hear that scream again :( I can get my neighbor to feed her though. I'd already named the cute little pup and decided that if it survived the night it'd be homed some place safe... ugh... I'm really glad my girl finally ate though. really really. Props to the Schnellers for all their help too. They assured me we'd get her eating no matter what it took... thankfully it just took me getting over my "I won't feed live" bit for a minute... I was really hoping she'd eat it at the Schneller's place, but she wasn't hungry yet. I was gonna leave it behind, but I'm glad I kept it... I'll have to feed her in her tank too at 9pm or so...

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Thanks again, man!