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Tubs, holes or no holes?

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  • 05-31-2007, 03:43 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Tubs, holes or no holes?
    If you leave a small gap in your rack between the tubs and the next level, do you still NEED to melt holes?
  • 05-31-2007, 03:56 PM
    jotay
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    That is how my Boaphile rack is set up. There is about 1/16" gap all way around.
    I only had to add holes to the top tub in the rack of four and that was because the humditiy was to high.
    As far a ventilation the gap seems to be fine.
    Something you will have to set up and experiment on.
  • 05-31-2007, 05:18 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    I add holes to all my tubs no matter what. Some racks I add a lot, and some racks I add only a few. I've always figured that extra air flow is never a bad thing.

    Mark
  • 05-31-2007, 05:52 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Alright. I may experiment with no holed at first and see how it works out
  • 05-31-2007, 09:08 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS
    I add holes to all my tubs no matter what. Some racks I add a lot, and some racks I add only a few. I've always figured that extra air flow is never a bad thing.

    Mark



    i agree!!



    vaughn
  • 05-31-2007, 10:38 PM
    Wild Bill
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    It really depends on you humidity levels and ambient temps. It also depends on if you have a dedicated room for snakes or in the main part of your house. I would put as many as you can and still maintain your ambient temps and humidity levels. ;) I have a dedicated snake room that I keep my ambient temps in and use a humidifier to keep the humidity up, so I put alot of holes in my tubs.
  • 06-01-2007, 01:26 AM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    My racks leave 1/8" gap and I don't put holes in my tubs. I also have a herp room that stays at a constant 45-55% humidity.
  • 06-01-2007, 11:18 AM
    jotay
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    My rack is in my bedroom and if I added a lot of holes it would bring temps down. So I go w/ the gap that is built into my rack.
    I had asked Jeff @ Boaphile if I needed to add holes and he said if needed to keep temps and humidity @ the levels you need but that the gap was enough for air and flow.
    He also said any holes added don't add to the front or rear of the tubs but along the sides.

    I guess what ever works best for your situation is the way to go.
  • 06-01-2007, 11:20 AM
    jamesw
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    My first rack i put holes in the tubs because everyone else did it, but the other racks ive built have no holes and never had a problem.
  • 06-01-2007, 11:42 AM
    RichardA
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    I add holes no matter what......if for some reason the snake was to regurge the decaying rodent will use up available oxygen extremely fast.....lets be realistic, we are not always there to clean it right away.

    This happened to a friend of mine on the way to the FL show.....one small hatchling regurged in its cup and he lost like 200 snakes on the way there. They were all deli cupped inside a large rubbermaid. Sad Sad Sad.......
  • 06-01-2007, 01:11 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    He also said any holes added don't add to the front or rear of the tubs but along the sides.
    Thats kind of odd, I always put air holes on the front and back and never on the sides. I wonder why the sides would be better?
  • 06-01-2007, 10:45 PM
    jotay
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS
    Thats kind of odd, I always put air holes on the front and back and never on the sides. I wonder why the sides would be better?

    I didn't ask but I would guess holes in the front would pickup room air ie drafts better than on the sides. If your temps and humidity is right then I don't think it really matters.

    As for the regurge thing eating up oxygen I guess that is something to consider. I wonder if your tub is 17" wide and 35" long and you have between a 1/6th of an inch and 1/8th of an inch all way around the tub for air how that would be in equal to how many holes drilled saying they where 1/4" holes
    ( somebody has to be way better @ math then myself)??
  • 06-08-2007, 02:57 AM
    Subzero
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    If you have a 1/16 or 1/8 gap that is enough for proper air flow, In my situation the humidity is about 80% with no holes and just the gap. So I add holes between 1-1.5 inches from the top of the tub.

    First i space them 3 inches apart, still high humidity. So i start to fill in the 3 inch gaps with more holes etc etc till i got 50ish%. My home is a constant 77 degrees so it doesnt affect the ambient temps in the tub.
  • 06-08-2007, 06:03 AM
    Alice
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nightmare Creatures
    I add holes no matter what......if for some reason the snake was to regurge the decaying rodent will use up available oxygen extremely fast.....lets be realistic, we are not always there to clean it right away.

    This happened to a friend of mine on the way to the FL show.....one small hatchling regurged in its cup and he lost like 200 snakes on the way there. They were all deli cupped inside a large rubbermaid. Sad Sad Sad.......

    Wow! Why would a regurge of one hatchling kill 200 other snakes if they are in separate deli cups? I'm at a loss here. (Sorry for the hijack)
  • 06-08-2007, 09:45 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Wow! Why would a regurge of one hatchling kill 200 other snakes if they are in separate deli cups? I'm at a loss here. (Sorry for the hijack)
    You know, I was wondering about that too... Doesn't make sense at all. On the other hand, it WOULD make sense that something else (like overheating) killed all the snakes and which also happened to caused one of them to regurgitate.
  • 06-08-2007, 09:54 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS
    You know, I was wondering about that too... Doesn't make sense at all. On the other hand, it WOULD make sense that something else (like overheating) killed all the snakes and which also happened to caused one of them to regurgitate.

    Or the fact that they were all in a cooler (that was sealed) and suffocated.

    It is unlikely a hatchling regurge would kill anything unless it did so via an acid burn or via bacteria but that would take significant time for enough to build up to be toxic to a health animal (I am also not sure how a dead animal uses up all the oxygen in a given container anyway?)
  • 06-08-2007, 09:58 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Tubs, holes or no holes?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    Or the fact that they were all in a cooler (that was sealed) and suffocated.

    It is unlikely a hatchling regurge would kill anything unless it did so via an acid burn or via bacteria but that would take significant time for enough to build up to be toxic to a health animal (I am also not sure how a dead animal uses up all the oxygen in a given container anyway?)

    Sounds a little strange to me too. :rolleye2:
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