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Paradox Albino?!?!

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  • 05-29-2007, 12:57 PM
    cueball
    Paradox Albino?!?!
  • 05-29-2007, 12:59 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Awww, they ran out of paint :) Those really are cool looking
  • 05-29-2007, 01:15 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Cue are those abberent or reproduce able???

    I love Paradox stuff. Was looking at getting a paradox Axanthic.. I love them
  • 05-29-2007, 01:27 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Wow...that's pretty much the coolness!

    :cool:
  • 05-29-2007, 01:33 PM
    cueball
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
    Awww, they ran out of paint

    Nice one noobEcky :8:
  • 05-29-2007, 01:34 PM
    cueball
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Cue are those abberent or reproduce able???

    In ball pythons it seems to be random and non reproducable. However we have been able to prove this as a genetic reproducable trait in sand boas :gj:
  • 05-29-2007, 01:35 PM
    cueball
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme
    Wow...that's pretty much the coolness!

    :cool:

    Much like yourself :cool:
  • 05-29-2007, 01:37 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Do they cost any more than a standard morph due to the paradox or the same.
  • 05-29-2007, 01:42 PM
    cueball
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Do they cost any more than a standard morph due to the paradox or the same.

    Usually more :gj:

    Another interesting tidbit is that a paradox albino that has a great amount of "normal" pattern might be genetically a het albino and not a homo albino :)
  • 05-29-2007, 01:45 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    "That boy ain't right!!" I love em so interesting!

    ~mike
  • 05-29-2007, 02:03 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cueball
    Usually more :gj:

    Another interesting tidbit is that a paradox albino that has a great amount of "normal" pattern might be genetically a het albino and not a homo albino :)


    I'd pay the extra just to have one in my collection
  • 05-29-2007, 03:15 PM
    muddoc
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    That doesn't happen to be the Paradox Albino that is also het for snow, that I almost bought in Arlington, is it? Very cool animal.
  • 05-29-2007, 03:17 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Looks like someone was working on their car, reached for a rag and whiped their dirty hands on an albino.... :)
  • 05-29-2007, 03:17 PM
    cueball
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muddoc
    That doesn't happen to be the Paradox Albino that is also het for snow, that I almost bought in Arlington, is it? Very cool animal.


    Yeah...maybe :rolleyes:
  • 05-29-2007, 07:20 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    I have a 1.1 het albino out of Paul Edward's paradox albino. I know it's not proven genetic(in fact looks more like non-genetic) but I figure more likely to have that aberrant gene in one out of one, than not.
    At any rate I should have some nice albinos next year. Sweet pic, love it!
  • 06-03-2007, 04:20 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cueball

    Another interesting tidbit is that a paradox albino that has a great amount of "normal" pattern might be genetically a het albino and not a homo albino :)

    Extermely Interesting! I am guessing this was discovered by crossing these "normal pattern paradox" albinos with standard albinos and getting some normals. How many animals are we talking about here--Has this been tested with more than one normal pattern paradox albino?
  • 06-03-2007, 04:21 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    I love Paradox stuff. Was looking at getting a paradox Axanthic.. I love them

    Any pics of these?
  • 06-05-2007, 12:03 AM
    bait4snake
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    I have a 1.1 het albino out of Paul Edward's paradox albino. I know it's not proven genetic(in fact looks more like non-genetic) but I figure more likely to have that aberrant gene in one out of one, than not.
    At any rate I should have some nice albinos next year. Sweet pic, love it!


    Uh oh, if paradox albinos actually are a screwed up Het Albino, then you bought 50% Het Albinos!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
  • 06-05-2007, 03:41 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bait4snake
    Uh oh, if paradox albinos actually are a screwed up Het Albino, then you bought 50% Het Albinos!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    No--A het albino is heterozygous at the albino loci. Meaning it carriers one gene version (allele) that is normal and one that is the recessive albino mutation. Apparently Cue has relayed the observation that some of the paradox albinos with a pattern like normals are not homozygous recessive like normal albinos, instead they are hets. I'm not sure how this knowledge was acquired.

    A 50% het albino is short for 50% possible heterozygous. This means there is a 50/50 chance that the snake carries one albino allele (in other words, a 50% chance that it is heterozygous!) Possible heterozygotes always appear normal and are produce by genetic crosses involving at least one het.

    While a proven het x proven het crossing gives albinos and 66% possible hets, a proven het x normal cross gives 50% possible hets.

    Hope that helps and this is why it's important to know and understand genetic terminology.
  • 06-05-2007, 03:52 PM
    Vomitore
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Looks like a lil snakey was messin' around with some Krylon. ;)
  • 06-05-2007, 03:57 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    Any pics of these?

    Here is one of a couple I looked at.
    http://www.wildmorphs.com/forum/1.jpg
  • 06-05-2007, 04:12 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Thanks for the pic and pm Freakie.

    Doesnt seem that imppresive to me from the photo...but it seems like it might be a hard animal to photograph...might be hard to capture it's true aesthetic essence.
  • 06-05-2007, 04:19 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    I wouldn't call them impressive no..But for me its like having a ringer its getting that odd duck in the batch that can be reproduced.
    The guy that sent me that photo said that its either washed out the color or didn't show the axanthic properties. So Yea I would guess it is a hard little critter to photo kinda like Enchi's or Pastels can be with our great lighting
  • 06-12-2007, 10:09 PM
    Krazy99CL
    Re: Paradox Albino?!?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
    Awww, they ran out of paint :) Those really are cool looking

    more paint you ask?
    http://baileyreptiles.com/images/gallery/ep15l.jpg
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