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  • 05-29-2007, 10:25 AM
    midnite_316
    Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    I been trying to find some search on Savannah monitors and Nile Monitors about them. I'm been thinking about getting one for my first time.. but I asking for help to find out more about them r they hard to take care of or they more hard then Iguana? And is it a good idea to buy one???
  • 05-29-2007, 11:23 AM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Nile monitors grow to about 6 to 7 feet in length

    One of the first sentences on wikipedia. Are you ready for that?
  • 05-29-2007, 12:36 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tmlowe5704
    Nile monitors grow to about 6 to 7 feet in length

    One of the first sentences on wikipedia. Are you ready for that?

    Hmm ok I'm not ready for Nile monitors that too big.. I'm going to try Savannah monitors I feel that well be best start for me. I hear they get 3-4 feet long right? they r really smart and I hear I have to give them time and they well be really nice and sweet. I'm thinking getting 1 or 2.. but now for the tank what if I get one Savannah monitor and what big tank do I get? like 75 gal or 65 gal .. to live in it forever..
  • 05-29-2007, 01:04 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    They need big enclosures with lots of space. One is probably the most you can handle if this is your first experience with monitors. They can be extremely aggressive as juveniles. They do not bite like snakes, but more like crocs from what I read.

    "Adults will require an enclosure no less then 6 feet long (preferrably 8 feet) and 18 inches wide (better if wider)"

    That is a quote from a monitor book by Daniel Bennett.

    http://www.herpkingdom.com/CS/savannah.html
  • 05-29-2007, 01:27 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Ok thx for the link..I guess I go with one. now if I put it in a 55 tank till it time for a big space.I was just thinking can I put in a Iguana cage?
  • 05-29-2007, 01:47 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
  • 05-29-2007, 01:59 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Don't waste your time. If you can or know someone who can, get a custom one. They need more length than height.
  • 05-29-2007, 05:36 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Also, an open cage like that is a bad idea. They need high heat, moderate humidity, and love to dig, it will cost a lot more to maintain temps and humidity in a wire cage. Go for a custom cage if you really decide on one. Monitors are a lot of work. Frequent water changes, feedings, and cleanings plus the amount of space they take.
  • 05-29-2007, 05:41 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    I'd start with an ackie over a savannah if I could redo it. Ackies are smaller, require less space, and are generally not aggressive like so many savs tend to be. By the time the sav hits 2-3', the bit will literally bring tears to your eyes just from the pain, not to mention the thrashing they do once they bite. That was the last bite I ever got that made me clinch my teeth and run for my vodka. Unless you have lots of time to spend on cleaning, feeding, and taming, I'd say avoid a sav at all costs. A tame savannah is hard to find, a tame or atleast non aggressive ackie is a lot more common. You do the research.
    Just be aware that a savannah will need a min of a 6' by 3' cage to do it right, an 8' by 4' is what I would go for if I did it again.
  • 05-29-2007, 08:36 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Ya I'm ready for it.. I use have 4 Iguana so i'm ready for the next lvl with this liz.

    ok i don't know no one who can make me a cage but i finded some online if i buy one off line than i want a cage that it can live in forever..

    http://www.customcages.com/index.cfm...t&categoryid=1

    I just need to know the number of cage to see how big that I need to get like 48x18x18?
  • 05-29-2007, 09:49 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Get a cattle trough. Can't beat those for housing. Monitor lizards need a very think soil as substrate. 2' soil depth minimum would be great for a savanah.

    Why did you decide on a sav. monitor or nile? I figure it is because they are the cheapest of the monitor lizards.....they are only available as WC or CH.

    Do yourself (and the monitor) a favor.......study monitors intensely, decide which monitor you would like to keep, setup the appropriate housing, then get a quality CBB monitor lizard. Ackies would be a great lizard to start with if you are really interested in getting a quality monitor lizard......lone males go for around $150 each and can be great to keep ;)

    Thousands of people buy savanahs and niles each year......ever wonder why you don't hear of too many people that have had them very long??
  • 05-29-2007, 10:07 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    Thousands of people buy savanahs and niles each year......ever wonder why you don't hear of too many people that have had them very long??

    that's it right there folks. savannah monitors typically don't survive long at all in captivity, and niles are a bad idea for all but the keepers who know monitors very well. you need to do a lot more research, especially since I have only seen maybe one or two pictures ever of a healthy captive sav. personally i think you have a lot more research before you're ready, but if you do it, then i wish you the best.
  • 05-29-2007, 10:10 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    well nile is too big.. and sav is cheapest so I was thinking give them a try..and for I did not say nothing about Ackies because they r hard to find and if I want one I have save money to get them.
  • 05-29-2007, 10:12 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    if you want cheap, you shouldn't get a monitor
  • 05-29-2007, 10:35 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    well if I can find a cheap Ackies that fine...
  • 05-29-2007, 10:38 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    i mean heat and care, even if the original monitor is cheap, they're one of the most expensive reptiles to keep. and it's just sad how many die due to lack of proper care. i just want you to do it right if you're going to do it.
  • 05-29-2007, 10:39 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Go with a black and white Tegu.

    I think they are pretty praticle for a big lizard. They can tame down very nicley but will require a cage at least 8x3x3.

    Im in the middle of getting mine.

    Good luck!


    Mike
  • 05-29-2007, 11:31 PM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    I just look up about Tegu they seem cool it look like i have alots of thinking to do but i'm going to seach more about Tegu..
  • 05-29-2007, 11:57 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    www.TheTegu.com

    Awesome place for it.

    Watch this video also.

    http://www.siscoreptiles.com/tegu-attention.php


    Mike
  • 05-30-2007, 12:09 AM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    thx for the link.. ya i just saw that video on youtube.com..
  • 05-30-2007, 12:10 AM
    8b8ll
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    Pretty cool huh.

    www.thetegu.com

    Is really a great site. I've read probably every post on there so far haha.

    Let us know what goes down.

    Mike
  • 05-30-2007, 11:37 AM
    midnite_316
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    ya it cool.. the olny i don't get is that what the diff from black and white Columbian and Argentinian black and white tegus
  • 05-30-2007, 02:20 PM
    8b8ll
    Re: Hmmm Help Me Plz..
    I have heard that colombians are not as easy to tame down. They are also smaller than the Argentine's which are the largest of the Tegu species. Colombians are also not known to hibernate unlike the Argentines.

    http://thetegu.com/argentine-black-a...tegu-care.html

    http://thetegu.com/colombian-black-tegu-care.html

    http://thetegu.com/contentid-10.html


    Hope this helps.


    Mike
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