*New girl and setup*

Hey guys, I just got a new female 06 at the expo today... I got her a 27g aquarium with a screen top and a large enough heating pad to warm the warm side to (currently) 91 without the accurite probe being taped down to the carpet, so I guess that's just air temp in that particular hide (where I anticipated she'd be most of the time) I grabbed 2 rather good sized plastic potting pots and cut holes in the bottoms for her to get through and used them for matching hides. There is also a large grapewood branch with some damp moss on it between the warm hide and the other hide and then beyond the cooler hide is the big water bowl (not really alot of slither room on the ground as much as I'd hoped (problem?) Anyway she's wedged herself under and behind the branch and hasn't appeared to notice the hides and how to get in them. How do I encourage her to go in these hides?

I also tried to feed her this evening but she refused. I am sure she is stressed from the days' events, but y'all should have seen her as we passed a large stand of live rodents! She went nuts! She was fed live, but was supposedly a great feeder that the seller thought could be convinced to go to f/t, any and all input on how to go about this would be much appreciated. I was told that they'd skipped feeding day because of the show and stuff... when would be a good time to try feeding her again?

She's not really settled down yet in her tank and usually tries to come out when I put her back in. The screen top that came with the tank makes me nervous although it fits tightly around the brim of the tank... she's pretty strong, and I sure have a lot of interested predators.... it's just your standard esu reptile tank topper screen top from the good people at glasscages... I think I'll keep something heavy on top just in case, even though it feels like a pretty secure fit... is it supposed to be enough or do I need clips of some sort?

Well... here she is again... I didn't have any questions yet so I just put her on the show thread for the show I got her at :D...no name yet
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...lown/evie1.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m.../evietank1.jpgfront view
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m.../evietank2.jpg cool side view
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/evietan3.jpg a top view of her

Hi there,



First impressions? for my tastes your hides and water container are too big - the hides should really be snug on all sides including the top if possible. The water container I find works best is generally a dog bowl with straight sides or sloped metal with the widest part at the bottom as they seem to tip those over less - they can be right little madams when the mood takes them for destroying your tank. :)

Emergency hides can be made out of ice cream cartons washed and with a hole cut in them - and of course it's a wonderfull excuse to buy ( and eat) two cartons of icecream.:P

The smaller hides and waterbowl would also give you more slither room but to avoid this making her feel a little exposed you could maybe cover the back and sides of the tank with aquarium background or something?

I would also suggest putting the hides at either end and the waterbowl between them as this gives the snake the largest temp gradient for most forms of heating.

On the lid thing, yeah they are amazingly strong for their size so you can't really rely on just the weight of the lid most of the time. A lot of people use luggage straps as emergency locks untill they get something a little more permanent set up. If you choose to put somthing heavy on top remember to balance it out at both ends or it can actually make it easier to get open not harder.

As for the feeding I don't think it would hurt to wait the week or so to give her time to adjust to her new surroundings as she looks to be a good weight. ( and cute - did I mention cute?)


What are you using to control the heatpad to make sure it doesn't get too warm for her?

Hope some of this rambling will be of use to you.



dr del

Does your screen lid have clips to hold it down? If not, you definitely will want to keep something heavy on each end to keep the lid down. You will also want to cover most of your screen lid with some platic or something to help keep in the humidity.


Here is a great link to setting up a glass aquarium for the care of ball pythons. ;)

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=32800

pretty new girl you got there, i dont have much to add that others haven't already! She's pretty though, which booth did you get her at, and without being too nosey, how much? I'll be at the show tomorrow (Sunday) and I'm curious who I might should be talking to ;)

Nice new girl.:D

A very unique set-up.
The entrance of the shelter! :D

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pretty new girl you got there, i dont have much to add that others haven't already! She's pretty though, which booth did you get her at, and without being too nosey, how much? I'll be at the show tomorrow (Sunday) and I'm curious who I might should be talking to ;)

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She's from Schnellers. They are going to stick more to redlines and the like and he's selling off his ball pythons. I'm sure if you talk to AJ he'll tell you all about what he's got. I really like them and was glad to get a snake from them even though they didn't breed her, they got her at last year's show and were going to breed her I guess before their focus shifted. She was $75. (fair?)

Dr. Del. I did get hides too big, but she found her way in to them last night. She is curled up and being touched on all sides at the bottom. She's also almost 3 feet long ( didn't measure, just a guess) which is what caused me to exaggerate teh hide size. Thankfully they're waaay cheap and easily made,... I'll just go get the next size down. I'm not currently doing anything to regulate that heating pad, but my warm end has stayed at 91-92... I'm still in the process of getting a t-stat. Maybe at the show today? I bought a 2 day ticket!

I'm also going to come up with something to hold that lid on better. I woke up every couple hours last night and looked to see she was still there (of course I got up at 6:30 too because it felt like Christmas and I was so excited LOL) she did push the lid a bit and test it (no luck for her yet) and she made me nervous because there's a divider in the top of the tank and she got her head betweent that and the screen top and I just had 2 damn dogs get their heads stuck under the fence in the same spot, so I'm a bit sensitive to getting heads stuck places right now LOL.. (the dogs are fine!)

Golgo... she did eventually figure out the hide, but I do agree that maybe just because that was the easier place to make an entrance that maybe it wasn't necessarily the best place for it... I just keep thinking in the wild that they would have stranger accomodations... :D but then again maybe it gets no stranger than me

Thanks guys for looking at her. She's so perfect to me. I'm not hard core into morphs, but she looks different enough to me that I feel I got a steal... and that's all that really matters right? My neighbor went nuts looking at a pastel at the show... he was $500 and my neighbor thought mine was a pastel (I know she isn't, but she did look a lot like that pastel)

It was so exciting! My boy wanted another corn snake and he was just about to give up when one came by on a guy's arm... a nice butterscotch amel (according to the vet we took him by there)... got him for $30 @ 3+ feet long... slim even for a male, but they said he ate rat pups! I fed him a small mouse yesterday and that looked like a proper fit... maybe he would have liked 2 because he was cruising around his tank a bit, but it was all so new to him... I'm glad my buddy got him because it eats f/t and I just sent home a leftover rat pup to his big corn that was f/t and he ate it... I'm hoping to get him switched over *rubs hands together at evil plot* LOL

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

Golgo... she did eventually figure out the hide, but I do agree that maybe just because that was the easier place to make an entrance that maybe it wasn't necessarily the best place for it... I just keep thinking in the wild that they would have stranger accomodations... :D but then again maybe it gets no stranger than me

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I think what you mentioned is all right, I agree with you.

I have seen them in the wild on TV program and then they acctually lived in a cave with many others together. Some of them hid at very unusual place.
They lived in very dark cave.
Your set-up is something special.
I am using a bird`s wodden nest for my BP and she likes it! :D

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

she did push the lid a bit and test it (no luck for her yet) and she made me nervous because there's a divider in the top of the tank and she got her head betweent that and the screen top and I just had 2 damn dogs get their heads stuck under the fence in the same spot, so I'm a bit sensitive to getting heads stuck places right now LOL.. (the dogs are fine!)

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Golgo... she did eventually figure out the hide, but I do agree that maybe just because that was the easier place to make an entrance that maybe it wasn't necessarily the best place for it... I just keep thinking in the wild that they would have stranger accomodations... :D but then again maybe it gets no stranger than me

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Hi again,:)

Yeah they do like to test everything in a new tank. The divider (flat spar of glass right?) is only really needed for strength in water filled aquaria so if it looks like it is going to cause problems you can just remove it using a stanley blade to peel off the silicon (please watch your fingers :) ). I also like to pack the ledge between the lid and the other ledge of glass at the top of the tank to prevent them jamming themselves in there and falling off or forcing the lid off.

And I'm glad to hear your dogs are O.K. :sunny:


On the hide thing I think they seem to prefer top opening hides ( well my little one certainly does) so I'm trying to work out how to get some for the older pythons - naturally I am getting myself all paranoid they will try and come back out before they are all the way in and get stuck so am trying to think of a solution for that too.

Your little girl does have some lovely flames. :rockon:



dr del

Thank you for the compliments on her... I'm surely thrilled about having her. She will help me with my tiny snake complex :D She is also said to be an 06 just like Nag... only about 3x his size (my guess- I have no weight or measurement on her and haven't had them together obviously due to her quarantine!) Are females usually this much bigger already(I know Nag is tiny and that she had a better go of it being housed by professional breeders rather than living in a pet store and having parasites)

I went back to the show yesterday and they couldn't believe they forgot to give me clips and I'd gotten away with it! They gave them to me for free because I had bought the tank... so that was awesome! She's now securely in there!! Those clips are cumbersome and stupid looking, but then that sure beats the snake on cat or snake on dog battle that could follow if she were to escape!!

Those dogs! The neighbor kids play ball with my 4 pits through the fence... well I just replaced the fence because the dogs could get out and even my shy dog scaled the 6' chainlink to get to those kids (to play- which is weird seeing how she's scared of most kids) Well now that the fence is a 6' wood privacy fence the kids encouraged and aided the dogs in digging under the fence so they could still drop the ball to the kids (Proof will do ANYTHING to play ball)... First thing Friday morning Piggy's head was stuck under the fence (she's the 7 month old) I turned her and moved her and got her out...got dirty was late for work... that afternoon Proof got her head stuck... a 70 pound 5 year old, she panicked and worked against me! I ran back to the house to get help, but the back door was locked so I put my hand through it... (she's my soul mate, and I FREAKED that I couldn't free her head- but I didn't let her know that) then my friend came out and we kicked the fence till that board came out... I had my head over proof's eyes and I was trying to hold her head while Macho man took that plank down... she got out and is fine, the fence is repaired and precautions taken to protect her... yesterday I had to tell the kids AGAIN no ball through the fence! They were climbing on it and peering over the top... I told them they could play with them under parental (or my if I have the time!) supervision! Is it really too much to ask that their parents supervise them as they play with these 4 big dogs? And that they leave them alone when there's no adult present?!

I think I misunderstood flames on the thread about it before... (although I think I got what blushing is...) I thought flames were where the belly color goes up the sides a bit... like on Nag here to the right of his head:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...onteCoil03.jpg

I think I *almost* understand :D I keep going back to look at her pic to see this flaming she's been complimented on... Can someone help me? My favorite part is the long line on her tail and right at the nape of her neck... I like the solid stripes... I know I'm easily impressed... I just love her color too... Nag must be about to shed again because he looks like an olive next to her!


Del, thanks for the new paranoia about them getting stuck coming in and out the same hole at the same time... let me know when you come up with a solution for that potential problem :D Has that ever happened to you or is that just a fear?

She seems to like to be able to poke her head out the top like a parascope and see what's going on, but then be able to stay in her hide... I still want to get her smaller hides, but she does appear to be getting comfortable in her current tank... except that she dunked her accurite in the water bowl *scowl* it was still working when I left, so it's not so bad :D

G: I think that birds nest is a cool idea! So apparently does your girl! You got a shot of that?

I was asked on another board about incidences where a Ball Python would have killed a human... I told them without doing any research that there would be very little data on it... and that I didn't believe it was likely given the nature of Royals and the fact they don't get big enough to eat things even as big as a baby human... can I get a little board input on that subject while I have a thread rollin' here? :D

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G: I think that birds nest is a cool idea! So apparently does your girl! You got a shot of that?

I was asked on another board about incidences where a Ball Python would have killed a human... I told them without doing any research that there would be very little data on it... and that I didn't believe it was likely given the nature of Royals and the fact they don't get big enough to eat things even as big as a baby human... can I get a little board input on that subject while I have a thread rollin' here? :D

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Hello! This is my BP, Poopy`s house. I bought this house at bird`s pet shop.
I have arrenged the entrance a bit!
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9969/img2911to1.jpg

The story of Ball Python would have killed a human...is interesting to hear.
:D
This is Poopy. She is 2006 USCB normal female.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7521/img2878wg9.jpg

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D STRING THESE WORDS TOGETHER...but:

POOPY IS DEAD SEXY!

I got ya now... she's in a bird box... a nesting box... I was picturing a snake under a wooden wreath like nest LOL :D Pictures were quite enlightening! How big is she? I like her eye (I can only see the one, but it seems BIG and kind of telling, like you can see some life behind em...) What's she like?

I don't actually believe there IS a ball python kills a human story, but I was asked about it!

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D STRING THESE WORDS TOGETHER...but:

POOPY IS DEAD SEXY!

I got ya now... she's in a bird box... a nesting box... I was picturing a snake under a wooden wreath like nest LOL :D Pictures were quite enlightening! How big is she? I like her eye (I can only see the one, but it seems BIG and kind of telling, like you can see some life behind em...) What's she like?

I don't actually believe there IS a ball python kills a human story, but I was asked about it!

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She is 2006 USCB, still a baby. Around 1 foot long She is still smaller than CD!
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/425/img2818ge1.jpg

This is why I named her "Poopy".
I always thought Ball python look like Dog rather than snake from their colour and the face. They look like beagle dog!
So once I said "my BP is not snake! She is a puppy!"
But someway I have misstyped and the spell of "puppy" became "poppy"!
Someone asked me "why you named flower to your snake`s nickname?"
(there is flower called "poppy")
Then I got idea from that and I named my snake " Poopy"!
Yes! Her poop is massive (will be massive when she become an adult). So I decided to call her "Poopy"!
Is it bad name? But I like it! Sounds good! "Poopy"

Poopy did poop last night and it looked so healthy! Looked like a dog dropping! Poopy well done! Good girl!


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8...ranatoppn9.gif

:8: I think poopy is a charming name! She's obviously loved! :P


I couldn't really decide on a name for this new girl... long story short her name's gonna be Madame Evelyn Irish... but she'll be called either Lily or Eve...:oops: I know I'm nuts...

My fish in the office here gets renamed every day to help satisfy my urge to name new pets heh heh heh :D

I got 10 snakes and Poopy is only one got its own nickname.
Others are called "oi!" or just "you".

I think Eve is good name!( I like the flower lily, too)
Not boring name.
But I think you will find some great name which is suitable for your BP.
Discuss with your snake. :D

I have this message board because I can't keep my mind off the snakes at work LOL... otherwise she and I may be discussing names right now...

Do snakes understand the dangers that cats and dogs present? Or is that something they have to learn the hard way? She doesn't like the cats being around much, but will tolerate it... the dogs she doesn't mind unless it's Piggy the puppy who is waaay too hyper and who gives way too many kisses (she hasn't gotten to touch the snakes obviously because she's just a pup and is unpredictable still.)

What other snakes do you have?

My other snakes look like more cats than dogs. lol
You might get..shock with my collection.
I keep..

0.0.1 false cobra
0.1.0 pygmy rattle snake
0.1.0 Albino Western hognosed snake
1.0.0 Southern hognosed snake
0.0.1 Brown Tree snake
0.1.0 Snow Southern pine snake
0.1.0 Albino Japanese rat snake
1.0.0 Hetero Japanese rat snake
0.0.1 Rhinocerous Viper
1.0.0 Mex Black king snake
0.1.0 Children`s python
1.0.0 Whitelipped python
Some of them are venomous....

I think Poopy is timid of the snakes above. Sorry Poopy.

There were white lips all over the expo this weekend... every one of them made me drool... tell me about yours... how is it to keep?

That's a very impressive collection... I def. don't have the courage for venomous reptiles! What's that like? What are the laws like on that where you are?

I keep some of them illegaly actually. But I got a brother who studsy at a labo for rep. He gives to me.

The moving of venomies are different from other snakes.

i have just come back to Tokyo from London last year.
I have been in the city for 5 years.
I`ve collected my snakes for a year. Stupid me.
I have been poisoned by snake completely. lol :D

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I keep some of them illegaly actually. But I got a brother who studsy at a labo for rep. He gives to me.

The moving of venomies are different from other snakes.

i have just come back to Tokyo from London last year.
I have been in the city for 5 years.
I`ve collected my snakes for a year. Stupid me.
I have been poisoned by snake completely. lol :D

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I think I lost something in translation... have you been bitten by your collection and invenomated (sp) (if so tell that story please) or are you referring to the addiction of keeping snakes? Have you been raised around snakes and poisonous snakes to boot? I'm just wondering how you got so comfortable with them....I'd personally hate to have a pet I couldn't touch without risk of death, painful agonizing death... not that others feel the same... that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

I think I lost something in translation... have you been bitten by your collection and invenomated (sp) (if so tell that story please) or are you referring to the addiction of keeping snakes? Have you been raised around snakes and poisonous snakes to boot? I'm just wondering how you got so comfortable with them....I'd personally hate to have a pet I couldn't touch without risk of death, painful agonizing death... not that others feel the same... that's just my opinion.

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"Sin is the only note of vivid colour that persists in the modern world." Oscar Wilde

I enjoy touching a ball python but I enjoy observing venomies.
Venomies are venomies.
They are also companion to me.

*I have been bitten by a dwarf lancehead viper a few month ago. But luckly It was a dry bite. Since then I have took more careful with them.

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Originally Posted by GOLGO 13

"Sin is the only note of vivid colour that persists in the modern world." Oscar Wilde

I enjoy touching a ball python but I enjoy observing venomies.
Venomies are venomies.
They are also companion to me.

*I have been bitten by a dwarf lancehead viper a few month ago. But luckly It was a dry bite. Since then I have took more careful with them.

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Glad it was a dry bite! I didn't intend to come off condescending if I did... ITA with your opening quote :)

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Originally Posted by gibbrishclown

Del, thanks for the new paranoia about them getting stuck coming in and out the same hole at the same time... let me know when you come up with a solution for that potential problem :D Has that ever happened to you or is that just a fear?

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It's just a fear and I may have a solution - bluetak holding the hides together once Ive cut them in half.:P

Only problem is I now have to go find out about the toxicity or otherwise of bluetak and how it reacts to snake pee.:taz:


My litle baby snake is still small enough for me to be using coconuts as hides so splitting them in half again will be easy at least.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...mybabycora.jpg


And yes the side markings were what I was calling flames - in your first picture she has some between the alien head markings that looked really light.:)


dr del

I see the flames now good doctor! Thank you! I like the alien head look :D It's like a row of them :P

:rockon:

She just got back from the vet. Fecal negative, and the vet kept commenting how pretty she was and how great she looked! 560 grams completely empty. :carrot:

Green light to switch her to f/t food... SUGGESTIONS?