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  • 04-30-2007, 11:01 PM
    geckochick
    White Ball?
    What genetics go into a white Ball Python? I have seen many pictures and just love the way they look.
  • 04-30-2007, 11:12 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: White Ball?
    which white ball, haha
  • 04-30-2007, 11:14 PM
    Sausage
    Re: White Ball?
    I'm guessing she means the leuctistics... those are the solid white ones with blue/black eyes. I think they're fire x fire..... is that right?
  • 04-30-2007, 11:16 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: White Ball?
    fires are for the black eyed lucys, for some others try http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll.../leucistic.htm
    not to mention ivorys...
  • 04-30-2007, 11:17 PM
    Sausage
    Re: White Ball?
    Gotcha... the lucys are kind of a freak occurrence, so if you buy two fires, don't expect to see them.
  • 04-30-2007, 11:42 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sausage
    Gotcha... the lucys are kind of a freak occurrence, so if you buy two fires, don't expect to see them.

    that's not true, and not at all what I was saying. Fires are het for black eyed leucistic
  • 04-30-2007, 11:43 PM
    xdeus
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sausage
    Gotcha... the lucys are kind of a freak occurrence, so if you buy two fires, don't expect to see them.

    Huh? There are MANY Ball morphs that will make a leucistic: Mojaves, Fireballs, Butters, Lessers... and probably a few more. It's definitely not a freak occurence.
  • 04-30-2007, 11:48 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: White Ball?
    the super form of it seems like almost all of the codominant morphs are a solid white or near solid white snake. There are many blue eyed lucys (butter, lesser etc.) then there are the black eyed (fires) then there are the super mojave, which is considered leucistic but has a dark head, then there are the ivories (yellow belly)
    sorry for the confusion if I caused it, I meant that it's funny how many white super forms of bp morphs there are.
  • 04-30-2007, 11:59 PM
    geckochick
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    I'm guessing she means the leuctistics... those are the solid white ones with blue/black eyes.
    Yes, those are the ones!:D
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qiksilver
    fires are for the black eyed lucys, for some others try http://www.grazianireptiles.com/col...n/leucistic.htm
    not to mention ivorys...

    Thanks for the link! Ivorys?

    The whole genetics thing is still really confusing to me.
  • 05-01-2007, 12:04 AM
    qiksilver
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geckochick
    Ivorys?

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ighlight=ivory

    Kara always has great pics

    I'm just dying to get an ivory...and lucy's and pieds... well anyway
  • 05-01-2007, 02:29 PM
    geckochick
    Re: White Ball?
    Oh WOW!! Now I want one of each.:D :D
  • 05-01-2007, 02:53 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: White Ball?
    Lesser x Lesser apparently make the purest white. The rest have random hints of the albino yellow on them.
  • 05-01-2007, 02:54 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mricyfire
    Lesser x Lesser apparently make the purest white. The rest have random hints of the albino yellow on them.

    Fire X Fire also makes a clean white snake.
  • 05-01-2007, 02:57 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: White Ball?
    O yea since we are on this topic. Leucistic is the super form which is homozygous right?

    So if you mated two Leucistics together you would get nothing but Leucistic...right? or did i do something wrong?


    ALSO.... the link above... http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll.../leucistic.htm

    in the picture top left is a blue eyed with red slit...what does that?
  • 05-01-2007, 02:58 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: White Ball?
    Yes, that is correct.

    As for the Blue Eyed Lucy, the answer was on the page you posted. :D

    Het Leucistic (Russo Line) X Het Leucistic (Russo Line)

    Lesser Platinum X Phantom

    Lesser Platinum X Lesser Platinum

    Platinum X Lesser Platinum

    Lesser Platinum X Mojave

    Mojave X Mojave

    Het Leucistic (Russo Line) X Mojave
  • 05-01-2007, 03:02 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: White Ball?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh
    As for the Blue Eyed Lucy, the answer was on the page you posted. :D

    Het Leucistic (Russo Line) X Het Leucistic (Russo Line)

    Lesser Platinum X Phantom

    Lesser Platinum X Lesser Platinum

    Platinum X Lesser Platinum

    Lesser Platinum X Mojave

    Mojave X Mojave

    Het Leucistic (Russo Line) X Mojave

    I thought the normal one was blue eyed with black slit instead of red...
    http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...y_blue_eye.asp

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh
    Yes, that is correct.

    Lets start breeding them then I want a white snake...for 1000 or less...
  • 05-01-2007, 03:15 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: White Ball?
    LOL


    I'm already on my path, buddy :)

    As for the red pupils, I know that the Black Eyed Lucy has red pupils, but as for the Blue Eyed Lucy with red pupils, I'm not really sure of the answer to that one.
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