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  • 04-27-2007, 08:55 PM
    lord jackel
    First babies have arrived !!!
    Well after a lot of research, reading and lots and lots of help from everyone on BP.net my first babies have hatched.

    The first little boy to crawl out :)
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0681.jpg

    Thinking about coming out (even at this age they are shy and pulled back in when I opened the top)
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0682.jpg

    Great Biology Picture - the attached egg candled DOA but never seperated from the good egg...but didn't cause any issues.
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0683.jpg

    Expecting all Normals - but they are really cute just the same :D
  • 04-27-2007, 08:57 PM
    rabernet
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congratulations Sean! That first boy sure is a cutie! How does it feel??????
  • 04-27-2007, 08:59 PM
    keeb
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Awesome man. Congrats! That guy looks like he has a LOT of Black!
  • 04-27-2007, 09:00 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet
    Congratulations Sean! That first boy sure is a cutie! How does it feel??????

    Thanks Robin...if feels really cool. After stressing over this and that (and every little thing) it was a great feeling to see the first one pop his head out.

    He ended up staying in the egg for 3 days before he came all the way out on his own...and tried to crawl into one of the other's egg :D
  • 04-27-2007, 09:00 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats man, must be VERY exciting to watch. Nice and healthy lookin babies!


    ~mike
  • 04-27-2007, 09:01 PM
    rabernet
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Do you have pictures of the proud mom and dad?
  • 04-27-2007, 09:03 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior
    Congrats man, must be VERY exciting to watch. Nice and healthy lookin babies!


    ~mike

    It was a blast to watch this past week...my wife and 2 kids were constantly wanting to check on them to see if he had come out further and what the other 2 were doing. My 3 year old was screaming and jumping up and down today when he saw the boy had crawled out...needless to say EVERYONE came running :D
  • 04-27-2007, 09:05 PM
    dr del
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats dude!:)


    They always look so cute at that age.:D




    dr del
  • 04-27-2007, 09:08 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet
    Do you have pictures of the proud mom and dad?

    Dad is no longer with us (sold) but here is mom...sorry it is such a bad picture she is VERY VERY shy. Infact I am amazed she got pregnant she is so shy :D

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...akePics021.jpg
  • 04-27-2007, 09:09 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Aww!!! Congrats! They look so adorable as hatchlings!
  • 04-27-2007, 09:25 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Wow, I am happy for you! What an awesome little brood you have there..so cool!
  • 04-27-2007, 09:28 PM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Great!!:D So adorable. I can't wait to get my first ones!!
  • 04-27-2007, 10:02 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
    Aww!!! Congrats! They look so adorable as hatchlings!

    Thanks...my wife thinks so too I tried telling her the pink would fade but she is convinced we have a pink sided snake :)
  • 04-27-2007, 10:03 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Wow, I am happy for you! What an awesome little brood you have there..so cool!

    Thank you...I cannot wait to find out what the other 2 are.
  • 04-27-2007, 10:12 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats! I'm very happy for you! It's so very rewarding. Hope you see many more in the future :)
  • 04-27-2007, 10:43 PM
    slartibartfast
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Cute!!!! I'm so jealous! Please post pics of the rest when they emerge.
  • 04-27-2007, 11:18 PM
    Scooby
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Very cool pic thanks for sharing
  • 04-27-2007, 11:28 PM
    Broseph
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Sean, thats awesome man, I'm very happy for ya. cant wait for the day i can post the same thing.. hope you have many more to come...
  • 04-28-2007, 12:42 AM
    Steve'O
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats! So cool, I can't wait to have a clutch hatch myself! :gj:
  • 04-28-2007, 07:23 AM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    It was a blast to watch this past week...my wife and 2 kids were constantly wanting to check on them to see if he had come out further and what the other 2 were doing. My 3 year old was screaming and jumping up and down today when he saw the boy had crawled out...needless to say EVERYONE came running :D

    Thats awsome that everyone was geared up and excited!

    ~mike
  • 04-28-2007, 07:30 AM
    Bradford Cole
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Awesome! Congrats!:D
  • 04-28-2007, 07:45 AM
    MATTI
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Beautyfull!!

    Why did you choose to put the eggs on the substrate using the plastic instead of in the substrate?
  • 04-28-2007, 09:24 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Awww babies! They are gorgeous! Congrats on your first clutch! :carrot:
  • 04-28-2007, 09:32 AM
    jglass38
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats Sean! Hatching babies rocks!
  • 04-28-2007, 09:41 AM
    muddoc
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats on those beauties Sean. I love hatchling snakes, no matter what their paint scheme. Good luck with those little guys.
  • 04-28-2007, 09:59 AM
    MeMe
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Cangrats!!! :carrot: They look wonderful! :D
  • 04-28-2007, 10:07 AM
    xdeus
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congratulations Sean! Watching babies hatch is such a cool experience. :carrot:
  • 04-28-2007, 10:15 AM
    Emilio
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrat's Sean nice babie's the pic's are awesome.
  • 04-28-2007, 10:18 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jar2476
    Sean, thats awesome man, I'm very happy for ya. cant wait for the day i can post the same thing.. hope you have many more to come...

    Thanks Joe...if I ever get that fancy new incubator there will be many more to come ;)
  • 04-28-2007, 10:21 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MATTI
    Beautyfull!!

    Why did you choose to put the eggs on the substrate using the plastic instead of in the substrate?

    It is called the Substrate-less method. So it is peralite and water with grate overtop. The benefit is 100% humidity but nothing wet touches the eggs...so the risk of mixing the vermiculite incorrectly (too wet/ too dry) or it drying out is gone. Though I don't have a comparison I liked how this worked out so plan to stay with it. :)
  • 04-28-2007, 10:56 AM
    MATTI
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Ok thanks!
    100% hatch rate?
  • 04-28-2007, 11:03 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MATTI
    Ok thanks!
    100% hatch rate?

    Yes of the viable eggs (2 candled DOA from the get go)
  • 04-28-2007, 11:07 AM
    JLC
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    How wonderful, Sean!!! What an awesome experience and adorable babies! Thanks for sharing the pics and letting us live vicariously through you! :D
  • 04-28-2007, 11:12 AM
    Lobo_Reptiles
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Oh wow, congratulations! I am excited for you! I've heard normals or not, that when that first little head pops out it is out of this world. Let us know how they do.

    I'm glad you mentioned the mom being shy...because I was worried about that with Chimera. She can be a real big baby sometimes. I feel better now though :)
  • 04-29-2007, 01:13 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived - UPDATE
    Thanks everyone for the nice comments and vote of confidence.


    Well the other 2 finally came out so here are some updated pictures as requested :)

    Female 54 grams
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0684.jpg

    Female 57 grams
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0685.jpg

    Male 72 grams
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0678.jpg
  • 04-29-2007, 01:53 PM
    SnakeEyes
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    all normals huh, were you expecting anything special? They cute, def surprised to see their weight though. I just bought a female from my shop and she is only 58g. Had no idea they came of the egg at that weight *sniffle sniffle* my little girl is so young.


    Grats on the new kids! :carrot: :sunny: :rockon:
  • 04-29-2007, 02:11 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Hmm, I'm pretty sure that I already know the answer to this question, but BP's are not temperature sex dependant, correct? I've had experience hatching baby leo's, so that's why I was wondering.
  • 04-29-2007, 05:01 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeEyes
    all normals huh, were you expecting anything special? They cute, def surprised to see their weight though. I just bought a female from my shop and she is only 58g. Had no idea they came of the egg at that weight *sniffle sniffle* my little girl is so young.


    Grats on the new kids! :carrot: :sunny: :rockon:

    Thanks...yup all normals and that was all I was expecting from her. I was hoping for some more girls and got 2 so I am happy. :)

    As for the weights, I agree that pet shops will be getting a lot of CH babies right now and they will be really small...but they are sooo cute at this age (especially with the pink coloration - which won't last :( )
  • 04-29-2007, 05:03 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
    Hmm, I'm pretty sure that I already know the answer to this question, but BP's are not temperature sex dependant, correct? I've had experience hatching baby leo's, so that's why I was wondering.

    You are correct sex is not determined by temperature...but (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) the female is who determines the sex (unlike humans where the male does)
  • 04-29-2007, 05:40 PM
    rabernet
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Can anyone guess which one is my favorite? :D
  • 04-29-2007, 10:08 PM
    mricyfire
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Lord jackel...how did you get the sexes...or better yet how do you find out at that young?
  • 04-29-2007, 10:14 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mricyfire
    Lord jackel...how did you get the sexes...or better yet how do you find out at that young?

    I popped them after I cleaned them up (though they still pooped all over me :D ).

    NOTE: at this age it is very easy to hurt them so you need to have someone with experience show you.
  • 04-30-2007, 09:29 AM
    adizziedoll
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) the female is who determines the sex (unlike humans where the male does)

    I would correct you, but you're right :) Males are ZZ and females are ZW - wiiieeerrrrd :imslow:
  • 04-30-2007, 10:28 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adizziedoll
    I would correct you, but you're right :) Males are ZZ and females are ZW - wiiieeerrrrd :imslow:

    Woohoo got one right for once!!!:rolleye2:

    I knew there were "z" involved just couldn't remember how they went. Thanks
  • 04-30-2007, 02:45 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adizziedoll
    I would correct you, but you're right :) Males are ZZ and females are ZW - wiiieeerrrrd :imslow:

    >.< I find that extremely wierd that they label their sex chromosomes with Z's and W's. lol. Why not just stick with the X's and Y's? How many chromosomes do BP's have anyway? Just curious really. i'm thinking about switching my major to Zoology and focusing on Herpetology. It would be cool to start getting into herp genetics also, which is another reason for me to start playing around with breeding/morphs ^^
  • 04-30-2007, 02:57 PM
    aaajohnson
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Congrats Sean ... sorry I missed this thread.


    That is so cool!!!!!

    Neil
  • 04-30-2007, 03:17 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
    >.< I find that extremely wierd that they label their sex chromosomes with Z's and W's. lol. Why not just stick with the X's and Y's? How many chromosomes do BP's have anyway? Just curious really. i'm thinking about switching my major to Zoology and focusing on Herpetology. It would be cool to start getting into herp genetics also, which is another reason for me to start playing around with breeding/morphs ^^

    Here is a great wiki on Ball Python Genetics (written by one of our own BP.net'ers...not sure it will answer all your questions but gives a great overview. :)
  • 04-30-2007, 03:17 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aaajohnson
    Congrats Sean ... sorry I missed this thread.


    That is so cool!!!!!

    Neil

    Thanks Neil...it has been a blast of a ride so far.:D
  • 04-30-2007, 04:25 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    Here is a great wiki on Ball Python Genetics (written by one of our own BP.net'ers...not sure it will answer all your questions but gives a great overview. :)

    Was there supposed to be a link in there? :crix:
  • 04-30-2007, 05:26 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: First babies have arrived !!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Purrrfect9
    Was there supposed to be a link in there? :crix:

    What you can't see it? Do you have invisible mode turned on on your computer? You need Windows Vista 2007 Revision 12, 4th edition. :rolleye2:

    http://ballpython.110mb.com/wiki/index.php/Genetics

    Sorry about that.:)
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