My bp and set up.

hey guys...learned a lot from here. But hopefully I can get some help/suggestions with my setup...
got 20L tank, 100w CHE, 75w redbulb(rightside), and a uth(just took it out bc i didnt want to burn him). underneath the top cover is aluminum tape and the CHE is on top of a metal screen.

Does everything look good. Still working on the right top cover and getting a proportional themostat/flexwatt(getting it this friday). Suggestions?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...n/CIMG0891.jpg
and the owner of this crib is...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...n/IMG00257.jpg will have better pics soon.

Maybe some fake trees or somthing to make her feel a little more secure...Since she is in such a open tank security may be an issue, and may make it so shes a picky eater.


this just is my opinion and what i have experienced... am i wrong? anyone?

i agree balls do not like alot of open space, also fake plants and trees will help humidity with water drpplets on leaves.... thats what we got.. in our 2 breeder tanks....

My concern is that he really does need belly heat. Do you plan to get a thermostat so that you can replace one of the lights with the UTH?


The lights are going to make it very challenging to keep your humidity up all the time without constant misting, and when I used lights, I found Kashmire's skin to be rather dry, rather than supple like he is now with no lights providing heat.

I also agree that it looks a little open - so if you start to have feeding issues, you want to look at filling that tank up more, although the issues could be related to the lights as well.

cool. will look into some pants today...fake plants right?

it was sad...the pet store only had a 20L tank with a lamp, another ball and some aspen when I saw him. He better be happy now. lol.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

My concern is that he really does need belly heat. Do you plan to get a thermostat so that you can replace one of the lights with the UTH?


The lights are going to make it very challenging to keep your humidity up all the time without constant misting, and when I used lights, I found Kashmire's skin to be rather dry, rather than supple like he is now with no lights providing heat.

I also agree that it looks a little open - so if you start to have feeding issues, you want to look at filling that tank up more, although the issues could be related to the lights as well.

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Def. get one...to replace the CHE. Or should i replace the other red heat lamp?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

My concern is that he really does need belly heat.

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Robin why do you say this? I don't believe in Africa Ball's get belly heat? As long as he provides a correct temp gradient and correct humidity(which he is) with a hot side (his is 90) his ball will digest just fine. Don't get me wrong I use UTH's in my racks and they are nice...but I also use RHP in my show tanks without any issues.

I am just curious why a Ball "really needs" belly heat? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Krazy99CL

cool. will look into some pants today...fake plants right?

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Yea fake plants work, you should be able to find them at some pet store.

which one looks good...still debating..
Green Ivy
http://www.reptiledepot.com/New%20Folder/esuvivy.jpg

Marbled Ficus
http://www.reptiledepot.com/New%20Folder/esuvmficus.jpg

Speckled Geranium
http://www.reptiledepot.com/New%20Folder/esuvspec.jpg

Milky Way
http://www.reptiledepot.com/New%20Folder/esuvmilky.jpg

Variegated Pothos
http://www.reptiledepot.com/New%20Folder/esuvvari.jpg

.....im leaning towards the Marbled Ficus :carrot:

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

Robin why do you say this? I don't believe in Africa Ball's get belly heat? As long as he provides a correct temp gradient and correct humidity(which he is) with a hot side (his is 90) his ball will digest just fine. Don't get me wrong I use UTH's in my racks and they are nice...but I also use RHP in my show tanks without any issues.

I am just curious why a Ball "really needs" belly heat? :confused:

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Sean, I'll try to find more information that backs that up, but everything that I've been told is that belly heat aids in digestion. Maybe one of our more experienced keepers **cough**Adam**cough** can weigh in. :)

Krazy, just one note on the plants - be sure to check them out to make sure there are no plastic "o" rings on them (clip them off if there are). I've known two people who's snakes have actually tried to go through them, only to have it stuck on their body 1/2 way down and had to be cut off. One had scarring on his snake as a result.

I would definetly use an UTH. You can get an affordable dimmer-style thermostat here.

Rab as far as i know they do need heat for digestion. However where that heat comes from be it a lamp or uth i dont think it matters. Snakes need heat to digest because it requires so much energy from them and the thermal energy helps to keep the smooth muscle inside thier digestive tract working at a quick rate. Possibly the belly it able to transfer heat faster througout the body but otherwise im not sure.

p.s ball pythons and other snakes could get belly heat in the wild, they would just have to sit on a rock or other surface that would hold heat.