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Crocs on the rebound!

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  • 04-20-2007, 10:35 AM
    MedusasOwl
    Crocs on the rebound!
    Somewhere, Steve Irwin is proud as proud can be. :happycry:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18210155/
  • 04-20-2007, 10:38 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    There is only 2000 of them? I would think it would take more than that to be removed from the endangered species list.

    Good new though ;)
  • 04-20-2007, 10:38 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MedusasOwl
    Somewhere, Steve Irwin is proud as proud can be. :happycry:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18210155/

    Steve-O mate the tide has turned :rockon:
    RIP
  • 04-20-2007, 10:43 AM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Very cool. It says they are thriving next to a Nuclear Power Plant? I don't know if that is considered good news, but at least they are upping the population. Now, if they can only save all the burms down there!
  • 04-20-2007, 12:09 PM
    jamesw
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Man thats awesome!
  • 04-20-2007, 02:58 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    There is only 2000 of them? I would think it would take more than that to be removed from the endangered species list.

    Good new though ;)

    They're still a threatened species, so they're not out of the woods yet. It's good to know that they are rebounding.
  • 05-02-2007, 02:50 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Just found this post. Awesome news
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    There is only 2000 of them? I would think it would take more than that to be removed from the endangered species list.

    Good new though ;)

    I would think that the reason is beacuase 2000 of them in just a small area of South Florida is a pretty large population. If they "baby" them for too long by protecting them they will eventually produce to the numbers so high that the enviroment can't support them all along with the gators. The large number of gators in some parts of Florida is already a HUGE problem since people want to build on their natural lands.
  • 05-02-2007, 06:15 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jim020cricket
    Very cool. It says they are thriving next to a Nuclear Power Plant? I don't know if that is considered good news, but at least they are upping the population. Now, if they can only save all the burms down there!

    Nuclear Power Plants have huge water cooling pools and lakes. These lakes remain at a slightly higher temperature than other water ways.These areas have high numbers of fish and even manatees, perfect nurseries for young crocs.

    I am acctually not all that happy about this. 2000 actually is an extremely small number, the thing is people may say that 2000 is high for the area that is protected (which it is) but the thing is that these animals use to be found all over the coast of southern florida. Now they are restricted to only a few protected areas when they should have range throughout many more areas of southern florida. It is easier for people to say "o their numbers are great where we protected their habitat lets take them off the list." When they should be saying "These animal's numbers have rebounded in the protected areas, why not protect more of their habitat" which would also protect manatees, alligators (which are acctually doing amazing), and a whole slew of other animals. Like the guy in the article said "Habitat, habitat habitat" It is great news that their numbers are on the rise doesn't mean they should be removed yet.

    ~Mike
  • 05-02-2007, 07:49 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    They also can't protect them forever if they aren't spreading out over a larger area. Having too many crocs in one area is a bad idea for the ecosystem just as having too few crocs. Yes they used to be found throughout the area but if they are all staying in these few sanctuaries then they will eventually over populate the area and run out of resources
  • 05-02-2007, 08:41 PM
    djets1989
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    i think it ment only 2000 breeding females, but hey thats just my thought, i cant believe they didnt mention steve in that article, with all his sole efforts!
  • 05-02-2007, 09:44 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djets1989
    i think it ment only 2000 breeding females, but hey thats just my thought, i cant believe they didnt mention steve in that article, with all his sole efforts!

    Steve Irwin focused his attention on Saltwater crocs Frank Mazzoti is one of if not the leading American croc expert in the US. Interviewing Frank is like interviewing the american version of steve when it comes to croc experts.

    ~mike
  • 05-02-2007, 10:37 PM
    wildlifewarrior
    Re: Crocs on the rebound!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    They also can't protect them forever if they aren't spreading out over a larger area. Having too many crocs in one area is a bad idea for the ecosystem just as having too few crocs. Yes they used to be found throughout the area but if they are all staying in these few sanctuaries then they will eventually over populate the area and run out of resources

    Wouldn't you want to protect every species forever? Currently these animals are restricted (not completely) to only a few sactuaries and wildlife parks, and have been removed from the protected list with a confined range. Ecosystems are regulated by keystone/top predators which will reach a certain level and top out or even decrease in numbers until food source and available habitat become available again. It is a constant occilation between predator and prey, and available habitat space and number of individuals. By confining these animals to only a few parks, their numbers will never climb to anything resembleing where they once were. Top predators and keystone species are like umbrellas, when they are protected their habitat is protected which also protects many other species even those which may be in decline but no one has taken the time to study them. If their numbers are allowed to increase more throughout their range, their ecology will be better understood and protection of a multitude of areas will be possible. I have worked with endangered species before. I have been part of a study where they put a highway right through a forestry/wildlife preserve, even the protected areas are under more threat than many people think. So by adding and expanding those protected areas at this point will help to slow developmental pressures in the future.

    ~mike
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