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hatchrite and vermiculite

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  • 04-12-2007, 09:29 PM
    adi
    hatchrite and vermiculite
    so i've been wondering. i hear hatchrite does all the work itself and i was wondering if its true. if so, why do people prefer vermiculite? thanks everyone
  • 04-12-2007, 09:33 PM
    jglass38
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Hatchrite is being sold as a convenience item for those that don't feel comfortable or just don't want to mix their own incubation medium. I have heard great things about it and believe its a great product for the first time breeder!
  • 04-12-2007, 09:40 PM
    NextWorldExotics
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Vermiculite is so easy, i dont need to bother with anything else... All i do is mix a bunch of V with a bunch of water and then squeeze all the water out and put the squeezed out V in the egg container... works perfect over here!
  • 04-12-2007, 09:41 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Haven't used Hatchrite, but I too hear great things. Simple, easy and quick.


    I personally mix my own.
  • 04-12-2007, 09:45 PM
    jglass38
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NextWorldExotics
    Vermiculite is so easy, i dont need to bother with anything else... All i do is mix a bunch of V with a bunch of water and then squeeze all the water out and put the squeezed out V in the egg container... works perfect over here!

    I agree and do the same, but there is something to be said for Hatchrite as a product for the first timer. I think you probably remember your first time breeding and how nerve wracking the whole process is. I don't see a problem with someone using this product.
  • 04-12-2007, 09:49 PM
    NextWorldExotics
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    I agree and do the same, but there is something to be said for Hatchrite as a product for the first timer. I think you probably remember your first time breeding and how nerve wracking the whole process is. I don't see a problem with someone using this product.

    I was so young on my first clutch, i didnt get nervous i was just happy to have eggs lol!!!! I was one of those that just did and failed and did a failed and then figured it out! But i do know what you mean! I know nothing about hatchrite so i couldnt really help with advice or opinions on it =)
  • 04-12-2007, 10:04 PM
    Ladydragon
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    um.. perhaps some of you veteran breeders could do a test session using the hatchrite for one or two clutches and the rest of your clutches in what you normally use. Do a comparison rundown and then let us newbies know what works, doesn't work, hints, tips.. etc. this is only a suggestion, so dont kill me :D. I too am curious how the hatchrite works and would be nervous using vermiculite as a medium.. seeing as I've never breed any of my snakes.
  • 04-12-2007, 10:05 PM
    adi
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    thanks for the fast replies!

    so let me see if i got this right. verm you must soak it in water and "unsoak" it afterwards...how many times must this be done?

    and hatchrite all you have to do is put it in and you are done?


    :rockon:
  • 04-12-2007, 10:08 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Send me a bag and I will do a test run! LOL!


    I may try it... But I have a grip of Vermiculite already ready.

    It sounds like a worthy challenge!
  • 04-12-2007, 10:09 PM
    jglass38
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Check out www.hatchrite.com to get some details on that product. For Vermiculite mixing, check out Joe Compel's page on that. He does a nice job explaining it.

    http://www.joecompelreptiles.com/bal...lite/index.asp
  • 04-12-2007, 10:09 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adi
    thanks for the fast replies!

    so let me see if i got this right. verm you must soak it in water and "unsoak" it afterwards...how many times must this be done?

    and hatchrite all you have to do is put it in and you are done?


    :rockon:

    You still have to soak the Hatchrite, but you don't have to have any particular mix of Vermiculite to Perlite like some people tend to do.

    Hope that answers your question.
  • 04-12-2007, 10:10 PM
    kavmon
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    last year in daytona, kevin (nerd) gave hatchrite the thumbs up! i think he would have a good basis for judging an egg incubation product.


    i've never used it myself though. for people that don't want to mix, i think it would work just fine.

    i mix vermic and water, 2 parts vermic, 1 part water by weight. this works for me.


    vaughn
  • 04-12-2007, 10:13 PM
    jglass38
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh
    You still have to soak the Hatchrite, but you don't have to have any particular mix of Vermiculite to Perlite like some people tend to do.

    Hope that answers your question.

    http://www.hatchrite.com/instructions.html

    I don't believe this is correct. Hatchrite is ready to go out of the bag. No mixing or soaking needed.
  • 04-12-2007, 10:13 PM
    adi
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    awesome! thank you for da help
  • 04-12-2007, 10:19 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Wow! I had no idea... Sorry about the misinfo.

    I've seen the bag, and thats about it.

    They donated a big box of it at the Anahiem PIJAC auction, and that was the first I had heard of it.

    Interesting!
  • 04-12-2007, 10:22 PM
    jglass38
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh
    Wow! I had no idea... Sorry about the misinfo.

    I've seen the bag, and thats about it.

    They donated a big box of it at the Anahiem PIJAC auction, and that was the first I had heard of it.

    Interesting!

    No worries! Its a good day when we learn something new :)
  • 04-12-2007, 10:25 PM
    adi
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    hatchrite sounds amazing then...

    how is it possible that you dont need to mix anything after your first mixing of water? does the humidity pretty much make the water for the rest of incubation time?
  • 04-12-2007, 11:18 PM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    I was considering hatchrite at first, but after mixing a tub of vermiculite and watching the humidity for a few weeks, it really is easy to use. I like the $3/bag for vermiculite from the feed store a few minutes away than the $20 a bag shipped for hatchrite.
  • 04-12-2007, 11:27 PM
    xdeus
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adi
    how is it possible that you dont need to mix anything after your first mixing of water? does the humidity pretty much make the water for the rest of incubation time?

    Yep. You should have your boxes covered so very little moisture escapes. You only need to open them occasionaly to replace the stale air.
  • 04-12-2007, 11:32 PM
    ECLARK
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    The ratio I use to incubate snake eggs is 50/50

    If you use 1 lb of vermiculite, then use 1 lb of water by weight. real easy :P
  • 04-13-2007, 12:03 AM
    adi
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    how would you go about mixing the hatchrite....same clump test?
  • 04-13-2007, 12:10 AM
    xdeus
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ECLARK
    The ratio I use to incubate snake eggs is 50/50

    If you use 1 lb of vermiculite, then use 1 lb of water by weight. real easy :P

    I found that 50/50 was way too wet. I start with 50/50, then add vermiculite until I can't squeeze any more water out of it.
  • 04-13-2007, 12:36 AM
    tmlowe5704
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adi
    how would you go about mixing the hatchrite....same clump test?

    hatchrite is not mixed. it is ready to go straight out of the bag
  • 04-13-2007, 12:46 AM
    adi
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    ^^^ but then i would be putting it in the incubator a bit earlier so the humidity can make the hatchrite moist enough for the eggs right?
  • 04-13-2007, 12:49 AM
    ECLARK
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Im sure a less wet mix will work as well, I have been useing the 50/50 mix for snakes since the beggining of time. and I dont have to add any water at the last week of incubation. I think a 50/50 mix is safe to reccomend to an unexperienced herper.


    I do use a drier mix to incubate lizard eggs, but hey...whatever works for you. :P
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xdeus
    I found that 50/50 was way too wet. I start with 50/50, then add vermiculite until I can't squeeze any more water out of it.

  • 04-13-2007, 11:22 AM
    rabernet
    Re: hatchrite and vermiculite
    Anyone know the shelf life of the Hatchrite? I might pick up a few bags in Daytona for next season!
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