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After talking with several people who said they are having the same problems, I think it should automatically show who left rep points. Not that it really matters to most, but I am curious as to who it is when they leave neg reps so I can find out what about my post offended them.

This has been brought up previously and they won't make names shown to prevent retaliatory feedback. Though I don't see what's so different about now when people can abuse the system because they are 'anonymous'.

I love reps, but I often forget to put my name on them, because other sites I'm on automatically tell people it was me... I only give positive reps so far though, so I'm on one of those anonymously negging people :D I'd love it if it were automatic that our names were shown to the person we repped. JMO

Maybe start a petition and see how many names we can get up for this?

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Originally Posted by StickyStevie

Maybe start a petition and see how many names we can get up for this?

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You can start up one if you like...but understand the site isn't run by petitions and is not a democracy. :P ;)

At some point in the future, the staff may feel that our current policy on anonymous reps needs changing. Opinions of members are welcomed and always included in any staff discussions, but our decisions are not forced by them.

If ANYone feels they have been "abused" by the rep system, please contact any staff member and will will glady look into it for you.

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Originally Posted by JLC

You can start up one if you like...but understand the site isn't run by petitions and is not a democracy. :P ;)

At some point in the future, the staff may feel that our current policy on anonymous reps needs changing. Opinions of members are welcomed and always included in any staff discussions, but our decisions are not forced by them.

If ANYone feels they have been "abused" by the rep system, please contact any staff member and will will glady look into it for you.

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Just a suggestion :P I dont mind either way :)

The site is being run top-knotch as it is! Nothing that I can see needs any changed (not that it would matter if I thought something did but you get my point!)!

Thanks. :sunny:

Simple solution. Everyone act like an adult and if you do retalitory feedback then you need to grow up. Sheesh this isnt the 3rd grade and you should be given a week ban if you have been proven to give a retalitory feedback. I could seriously carelss what anyone here thinks of my opinions. Hell, I'd love some more negtive feedback just to show you that I dont care about "getting one back". Too many of you kiss to much butt on here so I think thats why there's retalitory feeback. So just be adults and dont do the "I'm gonna get you back" BS.

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

Simple solution. Everyone act like an adult and if you do retalitory feedback then you need to grow up. Sheesh this isnt the 3rd grade and you should be given a week ban if you have been proven to give a retalitory feedback. I could seriously carelss what anyone here thinks of my opinions. Hell, I'd love some more negtive feedback just to show you that I dont care about "getting one back". Too many of you kiss to much butt on here so I think thats why there's retalitory feeback. So just be adults and dont do the "I'm gonna get you back" BS.

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Well put. I agree with you totally.

:D I ran out of reps for the day. How many do we get per 24 hour period?

Very simple solution folks and one that won't put our already overworked Mods and Admins to any further technical fiddling about. If you have that strong an opinion good or bad about somebody's post and you feel it warrants a good or bad rep point...put in your comment and your name. Pretty easy really. If you feel they are the sort of person to retaliate and they do...report it to the Admin or Mod team.

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

Very simple solution folks and one that won't put our already overworked Mods and Admins to any further technical fiddling about. If you have that strong an opinion good or bad about somebody's post and you feel it warrants a good or bad rep point...put in your comment and your name. Pretty easy really. If you feel they are the sort of person to retaliate and they do...report it to the Admin or Mod team.

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Can't be any more simple than that :)

I'll leave my name, no shame here. Haven't given out many negs though, just a few.

I think it would be great if we could see the names of people who leave reps. I think the system is already being abused as it is, and ANY neg rep with no name left is abusive. Taking it to the admin makes one come off as a whiner.
If people start leaving retaliating reps, so what? Don't leave a neg rep if you aren't willing to handle the fallout. And why can't the admin deal with the retaliation reps instead of the abusive no-name reps? I don't see how it creates a hardship, I see it creating a system where people can be held accountable. I like that idea!

I am not clear on why you would ever give a negative rep...I mean what is the real purpose?


I get a postive you...it is more a "I noticed you put some effort into what you told me so thanks"

But what would be the reason for the negative one...
if the post is offensive you report it to a mod
If you disagree with a post state your case...but everyone is entitled to their opinion
Blatently providing bad info...report it to a mod

Is there another reason for a negative rep?:confused:

In my experience, neg reps are from people too chicken to post their disagreement with my opinion out in the open, so I can't actually respond to them. It's truly ridiculous.
I'm all about standing by what I say.

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

In my experience, neg reps are from people too chicken to post their disagreement with my opinion out in the open, so I can't actually respond to them. It's truly ridiculous.
I'm all about standing by what I say.

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I agree with...I think we should just do away with negative reps, if you have a disagreement with something said then express it openly.

I must admit, the neg rep thing confuses me... I've never used it and the only time I would leave one for somebody is if they were seriously offensive or rude. But this is something the mods would typically handle... So I can imagine the neg rep points are used mainly when someone has a strong differing opinion, and you want to 'get back at them' for having it, IMO.

I have given both negative and positive and I always sign my name, even on the negative, the only times I have given negatives are if someone is acting way out of line and not listening to advice given and smearing everyone else. I also gave the negative reps after I responded in that thread, so for me negative reps are not because I'm too scared to not be anonymous, mine will always be signed.

I have given both negative and positive reps. I'm far from chicken about calling out a person in a thread but to save the drama I have been known to rep them. I leave my name and screen name on each and every one.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

I have given both negative and positive reps. I'm far from chicken about calling out a person in a thread but to safe the drama I have been known to rep them. I leave my name and screen name on each and every one.

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But to what point? I mean what is the benefit of a negative rep to this person? If you openly address them (in forum) then might have some initial drama but you resolve the issue. If you choose to report them to a mod you resolve the issue...I see a negative rep like having an argument and waiting for the person to leave to get the last word in.

I just don't understand the point. Nothing against you Entropy I just really see the value.

I take no offense. However sometimes it's just not something that would be fit for a 'discussion' or argument.

i didnt no about the feedback thing until now lol...

Ya know personally I hate the REP thing if someone doesnt like you on this site there just gonna damge you. I believe everyone has opinions and ideas about how they raise or breed ball pythons. You dont need someone else mocking how wrong you are.

I dont care so much im just on here to gain more knowledge and learn alot more. In the future if there will be any other reps cursing my name Im gone.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

I take no offense. However sometimes it's just not something that would be fit for a 'discussion' or argument.

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Didn't answer the question. Is the point just to gain your own satisfaction?

For the record, my reference to chickens was for people who don't leave a name. I have never had a name left on a neg rep.

No, I only leave negative reps if I feel very strongly about the subject. I don't get any satisfaction from it, it's not as if it does anything.

I got mine in the thread that was split from Jon's thread with the honey bees. Ed Clark said he did not understand why people were jumping on him and to this I responsed "No one jumped on him for showing pics. They jumped on him for showing up at hatching season and just showing off pics of what is for sale."

I was left neg reps with the comment "think before you speak" or something along those lines. I just want to know who it was so I can talk to them about it and see why they felt my post offensive. I am not here to offend anyone.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I got mine in the thread that was split from Jon's thread with the honey bees. Ed Clark said he did not understand why people were jumping on him and to this I responsed "No one jumped on him for showing pics. They jumped on him for showing up at hatching season and just showing off pics of what is for sale."

I was left neg reps with the comment "think before you speak" or something along those lines. I just want to know who it was so I can talk to them about it and see why they felt my post offensive. I am not here to offend anyone.

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This is exactly my point. What is the purpose (or benefit to the poster) to give you a negative rep...it was simply used as a personal attack. You weren't rude or offensive they just disagreed with your point and were to "chicken" (thanks SarahMB for the term :) ) to address it in forum.

There is a responsible way and irresponsible way to use the rep system. The irresponsible ones are who you're having the troubles with. I myself have gotten a neg rep that said simply "that was pointless", no name or anything.
However to pull everyone that has ever left a negative rep point into this stereotype is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

There is a responsible way and irresponsible way to use the rep system. The irresponsible ones are who you're having the troubles with. I myself have gotten a neg rep that said simply "that was pointless", no name or anything.
However to pull everyone that has ever left a negative rep point into this stereotype is wrong.

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I am not pulling people into a sterotype I am pulling the negative rep benefit into one. No one has come up with a logical benefit to leaving a negative rep. I know you said you have left them and had your reason...but again to what benefit. A positive rep is like a "Thank you" what is a negative one?

:P I must be tired as I am really on a soap box tonight LOL Since Judy made it clear their point of view on this discussion it is more academic than anything.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

There is a responsible way and irresponsible way to use the rep system. The irresponsible ones are who you're having the troubles with. I myself have gotten a neg rep that said simply "that was pointless", no name or anything.
However to pull everyone that has ever left a negative rep point into this stereotype is wrong.

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I don't think anyone is putting everyone into any category, or stereotype. I think the point of this thread is aimed at those who are abusing the current system. If you aren't one of them, it doesn't apply to you :D

I think I've handed out two of them, and signed both of them. The one I gave out that I remember best was recently--and it was after the poster was hostile to people trying to help him, and continued to be hostile. I had posted in the thread prior to giving the neg rep, stating my issues. I believe all of his neg rep from that one thread caused him to go into moderated status...so I suppose that's one thing that the system does do. But, that isn't an example of the system being abused. I thoroughly believe that if you're going to do it--be brave enough to sign your name.

Thanks Judy...Didn't realize that about newbies and reps. :D

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

This was left as a negative rep at 11:29pm tonight for me.

Exactly what I am talking about....:8:

LOL

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That wasn't a neg rep...that was a neutral one...neither positive nor negative. New members don't have "rep power" until they have been around for a little while and made a certain number of posts. That one was intended to be positive, I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by JLC

That wasn't a neg rep...that was a neutral one...neither positive nor negative. New members don't have "rep power" until they have been around for a little while and made a certain number of posts. That one was intended to be positive, I'm sure.

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Thanks for explaining that Judy...I actually thought it was just someone being funny based on the topic...LOL

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Originally Posted by darkangel

So I can imagine the neg rep points are used mainly when someone has a strong differing opinion, and you want to 'get back at them' for having it, IMO.

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Out of my 7 neg reps, two are signed and obviously disagreeing with what I said, which could have just as easily been PMs. The other 5 are just unsigned snipes from people who didn't agree with what I was saying, and in threads that had nothing to do with my giving bad or incorrect information (although my overall lowered rep value now confers something along the line that I'm not as trustworthy about our collective addiction as others).

Here is my idea to toss around and beat up as you will...

Let the rep comments be viewed and voted on by everyone (obviously, dont let people vote on their own rep). By doing this, rep points will only retain their value if more people agree with them than disagree, which should both lower the amount of mod/admin interaction, while publicly and regularly devaluing anonymous rep that is little more than petty sniping.

These are all good ideas, but they might be worth putting in place only if the reputation system actually counted for something.

Whether you have 20 rep points or 200, you still have all the same privileges as the next person.

The reputation system really only seems to make a difference when the occasional bad apple comes along, and those cases are rare.

Rep is just a number, I don't really understand what all the fuss it about...everyone in the posts above complaining about it all are in very good standing in the community. What gives?

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

These are all good ideas, but they might be worth putting in place only if the reputation system actually counted for something.

Whether you have 20 rep points or 200, you still have all the same privileges as the next person.

The reputation system really only seems to make a difference when the occasional bad apple comes along, and those cases are rare.

Rep is just a number, I don't really understand what all the fuss it about...everyone in the posts above complaining about it all are in very good standing in the community. What gives?

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I for one am not complaining about my rep number. I just wanted to see who neg'ed me so I could find out what I said that was taken offensive. Just want to clear that up with you

Unfortunately, many people take reputation hits very personally and making it mandatory to show who leaves what does two things...one, it is more likely to create bad blood between individuals who might disagree consistently - which is never a good thing in a "community,"...and two, it makes those who normally avoid drama even less likely to voice their feelings in the form of negative feedback, which is also a bad thing in a community. The reputation system should give a snapshot of the feelings about one person by the community as a whole, not just those who choose to participate in it. Just my thoughts on it.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

These are all good ideas, but they might be worth putting in place only if the reputation system actually counted for something.

Whether you have 20 rep points or 200, you still have all the same privileges as the next person.

The reputation system really only seems to make a difference when the occasional bad apple comes along, and those cases are rare.

Rep is just a number, I don't really understand what all the fuss it about...everyone in the posts above complaining about it all are in very good standing in the community. What gives?

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You know i could of not stated this any better :cool: .My only thing to add is if some people would worry about the PROPER care of their reptiles as much as they complain about neg rep hits we would have a perfect forum.I am NOT pointing any fingers to any specific people here by no means.My theory this is a reptile community here to help each other.If you are asking questions then its obvious you DO NOT know everything.I have been working with reptiles for 10+yrs and i still ask questions.I return you to our REPTILE COMMUNITY :)

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

These are all good ideas, but they might be worth putting in place only if the reputation system actually counted for something.

Whether you have 20 rep points or 200, you still have all the same privileges as the next person.

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Except that this is not true. You can get more priveleges with more rep points.

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

Except that this is not true. You can get more priveleges with more rep points.

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What extra privelages are you giving based on higher rep?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

What extra privelages are you giving based on higher rep?

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Click me!

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

Click me!

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O yea i forgot about those :8: .I like the click me by the way :eek: .I was being goofy on another thread then i noticed your post here :P .