im just learning about all of this soooooo

Can someone maybe make a chart of what can make what?

Like I think I understand what a super is (a super albino thats bred with a normal will give birth to all albinos right?) and if so how can you tell which snake is a super?

A super is the result of two co-doms of the same kind being bred together eg. pastel x pastel = super pastel. Albino is a recessive trait and therefore has no "super". :D

ok so a super pastel thats bred with a normal will give birth to all pastels?

I dont think so but I'm not completely sure. www.newenglandreptile.com has an explanation on all the types of genes.

thanks, I actually found this which was somewhat helpful too

http://www.ballpython.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html

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ok so a super pastel thats bred with a normal will give birth to all pastels?

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right!

Any true super form will result in all co-dom morphs when bred to a normal or any recessive animals for that matter.

edit: super forms of snakes look different. Take 2 lessers and breed them together, get a solid white snake for example. In order for a morph to be listed as co-dom it only takes one allele of a certain gene to show a visual mutation and when bred to another co-dom an animal is produced showing both alleles. Sort of confusing, and honestly, that confuses me at nearly 1 AM

no but i think a super pastel bred to a pastel will give you all pastels......you remind me of someone i know;) (that was a joke to all the people that know me since the beginning) a reallly good website that was givin to me when i was asking questions like these is this- http://ballpython.ca/genetics.html

edit: you guys beat me to it:D

We're just fast like that!!:P :rockon:

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no but i think a super pastel bred to a pastel will give you all pastels......you remind me of someone i know;) (that was a joke to all the people that know me since the beginning) a reallly good website that was givin to me when i was asking questions like these is this- http://ballpython.ca/genetics.html

edit: you guys beat me to it:D

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a super pastel bred to a pastel statistically should yield 50% supers and 50% pastels

ok i think i have somewhat of an understanding about it now haha thanks to every one who posted :]

Its what we are here for at 1:30 in the morning!!:P

haha pretty funny I noticed that this forum is more active at night, or maybe the people on in the daytime just dont feel like dealing with my beginners questions hahaha

Edit: EARLY morning ;] ha

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haha pretty funny I noticed that this forum is more active at night, or maybe the people on in the daytime just dont feel like dealing with my beginners questions hahaha

Edit: EARLY morning ;] ha

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There is always someone here to answer nearly every question you can think of. Make yourself at home my friend!:rockon:

We take all kinds of questions at all hours!!(should be the motto) On a weekend you can get around 60 members asking and answering questions so thats always a good time to ask! :rockon:

yeaaah thanks, this forum is an alot bigger help than i thought it would be, my bp is a gift from my cousin and her husband who bought it just for the sake of owning one, so they did just enough research to take good care of it but not really anything as far as breeding goes which i think I may want to get into once I can say that i know enough (hopefully once i am settled in a home of my own after collage and after I get my music studio up and running)

oh and also, how long does a normal bp usually live? and how long do female bp's stay furtile?

and does breeding effect their life span?

oh ok thanks for correcting me...i should've known that....its just 11 p.m. right now and i havent eaten all day :P

:rockon:

Everyone here is more than willing to help, like others say its a family you know? before you know it, you will be answering other questions. It is also very rare that someone will ask a stupid question, theres like no such thing, unless your asking why is you snake takeing a poop, that might be kinda dumb...lol just kiddin.. also, if someone hasnt alwready posted it here, its on another thread but http://www.snake-zone.dk/Wizard/morph.phpthere you go, have a ball. havnt found the mix for the caramel though..Not all breeders will reveal ALL there secrets you know? but you can learn and experiment, make projects and well have funny helping nature create life :)

can get a bit expensive though when you get into morphs...so far the record i have seen is $25,000, to $30,000 :):O

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oh and also, how long does a normal bp usually live? and how long do female bp's stay furtile?

and does breeding effect their life span?

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Into their 30s from what ive heard. I know the Sutherlands had some balls that were in there 20s that were still breeding, just laying smaller clutches. I do not think "normal breeding" (years off) affects their lifespan.

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no but i think a super pastel bred to a pastel will give you all pastels......

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A super pastel bred to a normal will give you all pastels.