thinking.. where to go next.

Well, in the next two weeks I will have two vacant spaces on the rack. I have sold my normal male to my friend, where he will have a great home and where I can still see him pretty often and make sure he's cared for properly though I know he will be. Jarrod has been looking for a BP for awhile now, and it is just a perfect match really. And my het ghost, I also found a new home for him since I have decided not to go into that direction with my breeding prospects, and he was not a snake that I felt a strong bond with..
So, with the tub atop the rack, and one inside of it, that will leave me with two vacant spots. I have the male pastel and spider, and three normie females of my own (two breeding, one an '06.), along with one I am breeding for a friend.. I am thinking of where I should go. My eventual goal is to produce bees, and I already have the makings for that. I also want super pastels, and am on the road towards them too.. but ya know, I can't stand having vacant rack space!
I even toyed with the idea of getting a Blood, or an Angolan.. I love the fat, huge Bloods, and the looks of Angols; they are just stunning snakes. I have an acquaintence who is giving up some of their BPs, and I am interested in her female, but have not gotten a reply yet.. I was thinking of just getting two normal girls and raising them up for future breeders, since they would be helpful no matter where my eventual morph goals lead me..
But part of me wants to get a female morph. I was looking into mojaves, since I love their looks and what the super form looks like.. they are tad on the pricey side for me at this point though, what with needing a vehicle for myself. What would you do? I know, it is ultilatemy my decision, but I am just shooting for advice and maybe a thought or two that I haven't thought of regarding this.. I am really not interested in hets. My other thought maybe, was getting an '05-06 female pastel to get a jumpstart on bees, since the clutches I have for this year hopefully, will be three; 2 are normal x pastel, one normal x normal, and it will take a while to raise any holdback girls up, if the BP gods/goddesses do bless us with babies this year..

You sort of have boxed yourself in on options since you only want visible morphs. What I would do (and I am sure you will get lots of ideas :) ) would be to get a killer lemon pastel female (got to love all the pics that have been posted in the past couple of days:carrot: ) and a yellow belly female. This would give you the Super Pastel you wanted and yellow belly is key to so many new things and could still provide you with a white snake down the road.

In the end I am sure you know it all depends on what you want to do down the road with your breeding projects so good luck.

A nice lemony female would be great.. the price could also get up there to be equivelant to a mojave too.. argh :)
Then I could even get into albinos, really; buy a male visible and female het.. see, with limited funds and space, this is where it gets confusing :)

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A nice lemony female would be great.. the price could also get up there to be equivelant to a mojave too.. argh :)
Then I could even get into albinos, really; buy a male visible and female het.. see, with limited funds and space, this is where it gets confusing :)

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I agree with you...in your situation you should really consider HET's then you could get more for your money (and your car:D ). I would go for Pieds or Carmels...my 2 favorites if you decided to go for HET's.

I agree with Sean. Get a couple het females for your favorite recessive morph. Then, later on, you may choose to pick up a visual male or even a het male...or just breed them to your spider or pastel. They might even pay for the visual male.

Steve

Jen,
I don't know what your budget is, but my suggestion, that is not too pricey, and I tghink would go in the direction you are heading is Yellow Belly female. You can make Ivorys with her down the road, and maybe if you were interested a Pastel YB (they are awsome, believe me). And lastly YB females are slightly less than Mojave females. Just a thought. If you want to talk about it, give me a call, or PM me.

Sincerely,

I can't find a shot of a YB x Pastel to save my life.. can anyone help? :)

YB pastel male


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...syb006copy.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/pasyb008.jpg

Youve got a male spider, male pastell and three norm females.. now your looking into another visual morph. I would pick up something to speed up progress on something your already doing, get a pastel female, find a cheap one (ugly) from a reputable breeder, and get a jump start on super pastels, then bees, then maybe after you sell some of your stock, geta pinstripe for lemon blasts, stick with pastel combos for a while, everything looks better in pastel. just my .02

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Youve got a male spider, male pastell and three norm females.. now your looking into another visual morph. I would pick up something to speed up progress on something your already doing, get a pastel female, find a cheap one (ugly) from a reputable breeder, and get a jump start on super pastels, then bees, then maybe after you sell some of your stock, geta pinstripe for lemon blasts, stick with pastel combos for a while, everything looks better in pastel. just my .02

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Why ever give up and accept 2nd best? Get some bright lemons or hot orange jungles and make a beauty.

Gin I love recessive stuff but your going in a dom co/dom direction if I were you I jump on Yellow bellies and cinnies. To me they hold the best possiable out come I mean bees are great but Pewters are too so are YB pastels and black balls. Everyone loves lucys but only cinni X cinni makes a black ball.

Just my two cents.

You have a pastel and a spider.. And your giving up on your Hypo project? I'd keep going with the hypo project if I where you! But to each his own... Good luck with what ever you do..

That'a a tuffie....I'd go with a female albino. (if you got the money!) But, a car is much more important.

I am leaning toward the female pastel idea. Now, the lemons are compatible with standard pastels, right? I would just love a nice, killer female lemon..
I am really enamored with bees, and pins, and the combos that are made out of them. This is the direction that I want to go, with the eventual goal being cash to buy a high-white pied. I know exactly what I want in a pied, and do not feel confident with the gambling in breeding hets; I could get a pied with any amount of white in breeding, but in my head I have that perfect snake vision. I figure I will breed what I have now, try to get a nice female pastel in the next 6 months, and go from there!

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I know exactly what I want in a pied, and do not feel confident with the gambling in breeding hets; I could get a pied with any amount of white in breeding, but in my head I have that perfect snake vision.

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If you have a picture in your head of the "perfect snake" you want then I dont think I can fault you for waiting till you se that one for sale. Every time you looked at it you would be happy you waited I think.

With the hets then,yes, you could breed them every year in the hope of geting your ideal appear - but it might never happen.

Aside from the dream pied I vote for yellow belly and cinamon. :)



dr del

Jen,
In case you were still thinking about a Yellow Belly, here is a pic of our Pastel YB with a YB Female on bottom.
http://www.baileyreptiles.com/titleyb4.jpg
A Pastel female is not a bad choice either if you want to go that route.

depending on what the prices will be on 07 female pastels, i would personaly fill both of those tubs with pastel females. But that is what i will actually be doing so my opinoin is a little biased lol.

Also, awesome pics of the YB Pastels, next year ill be getting a spider male and a YB male, YB pastels are amazing!

I would get a cinny pair, you have the pastel so you can eventually try for pewters ...... Good luck anyway... :salute: