has anybody read the book, Natural Cures "They" Don't want you to know about ???

I started reading it, and it's appalling.......I mean I KNEW fast food was bad, but I had no idea about everything else. WHOAH!! Anybody out there who is concerned about eating healthy, wanting to lose weight,or just plain "eat right", I HIGHLY reccommend reading this.

I haven't red it but was thinking about it. I'm cheap lol. If I catch it at the library I may get it. I also am not willing to shell out change on something that might not bee good :-p

my mom and sis bought it together and in a way they became "obssessed" with it for a while.

I have read the first chapter... One of my friends/coworkers is pretty obsessed with it now. He almost only eats organic foods and is really paranoid about "conventional" foods and restaurants. Can't say I blame him though. He is also extremely cautious of all types of medications.

I have never been one to take some "magic cure all" pill, syrup,medicine, etc. I rarely get sick.My mother on the other hand, is ready to spoon feed someone a big heaping blob of some god awful tasting purple liquid at the first hint of a sniffle. *gasp* However, when I did my grocery shopping yesterday, it was 95% organic stuff. And I couldn't believe the taste difference in the ground beef.....delicious!!! :hungry:

Oh, yeah, he also doesn't eat pig or cow.

never read it... Im gonna have to pick that one up.


Over the last six months I have been switching over to organic foods. I think they taste better anyway. Trying out the vegitarian thing too, but thats a whole different can of worms...
If you look at even alot of the "health foods" the ingrediants are a bit scary if you know what you're looking at. I think the best route is to stick mainly to fresh foods, and cook from scratch. Its a little more work, but well worth it imho.

Author Kevin Trudeau is nothing more than a fraudulent quack.
Check out:
http://skepdic.com/trudeau.html
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm

Don't waste your money on this book.

I find it funny that people think that if something is "natural" or "organic", it must be "better" or "safer" for you, your family, or pet. This is definately the case.

Case in point--Because of the contaminated pet food, more people are buying organic pet food thinking it could be unaffected.

I really don't see the reasoning behind this...organic food and products get recalled too! For example, see http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls...ence09_06.html

I understand Mendel, what you are saying. But I totally disagree with you about Trudeau being a fraudulent quack. The reason is that many of the things he mentions in his book, I already knew to be true before I even picked up the book. And I do think that organic food is much better for you. It's notfull of growth hormones ,pesticides, and chemicals. yes, ANY food regardless of whether its organic or not has the potential to become contaminated. but personally, i'd rather take my chances with the organic food instead, because "regular food" is already icky without the contaminant.

While I can't comment on the scientific part other than I don't like to put any unneccesary chemicals/pesticides/etc in my body, I will say that organic stuff tastes MUCH better in most cases. Nothin like home grown veggies too.

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I find it funny that people think that if something is "natural" or "organic", it must be "better" or "safer" for you, your family, or pet.

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Organic foods usually are "better" for you.

Now I am not saying that an organic apple is necessarily going to be any better for you then a normal one (that is debatable). But with alot of pre-made foods organic will win almost every time. Take an organic burrito over a regular one. No contest.

I find that organic food companies in general are focused on your health whereas the majority of regular food companies are focused on your taste buds, coloration, preservatives, ect. Therefore 9 times out of ten, organic food is going to be better for you. Not necessarily because the food items were grown naturally, but because these companies are aiming to make a truly healthy food.

yay green man! :rockon:

Ok I'm not going to try and bash organic foods, but do you know what they use as fertilizer for those foods? Human sewage, because they are not allowed to use any animal or chemical fertilizers. Hence the reason for the spinach recall affecting mostly organic foods. Organic milk will also have a higher concentration of infection in it, because they are NOT allowed to treat the cows with ANY antibiotics. I'm not saying the organic foods don't have any value, but they're not all they're cracked up to be either. I personally would like to see an intermidiate area between what is available now.

I also HATE the use of the words 'all natural'. Arsenic is all natural, but that doesn't mean it's good for you. Personally it's a phrase that used to liberally, and has no value to me. Just a little quirk of mine. :oops:

I didn't know about the fertilizer, Christie.. that's pretty gross.

Healthy cows should not need antibiotics though.. to just automatically load up the animals with all sorts of meds when they don't need them is not necessary IMO.

I totally agree with you on the apparent worship of all things 'natural'.. lots of nasty horrible things are 'natural'.. and lots of great things are unnatural.

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

I also HATE the use of the words 'all natural'. Arsenic is all natural, but that doesn't mean it's good for you. Personally it's a phrase that used to liberally, and has no value to me. Just a little quirk of mine. :oops:

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LOL I have the same pet peeve. Snake venom is all natural, doesn't mean I'm going to free base it.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Healthy cows should not need antibiotics though.. to just automatically load up the animals with all sorts of meds when they don't need them is not necessary IMO.

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Healthy cow do get the occassional infection, just like we do. They can come down with mastitis or any other ailment, but because they're considered 'organic' the vets are NOT allowed to treat them. No antibiotics PERIOD. I completely agree they do not antibiotics if they are healthy.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Healthy cows should not need antibiotics though.. to just automatically load up the animals with all sorts of meds when they don't need them is not necessary IMO.

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Why not we do. Flu shot, booster shots, shots you get before you can go to school. If perfectly healthy people need antibiotics and vaccines why wouldn't animals could you imagine what two sick cows in a herd of 6000 could do to a beef farmers crop. Growth hormones, steroids these types of things I don't agree with.

Heres my thoughts people got sick and died of crap long before processed foods and even more so before modern medical treatments. I eat healthy exercise and I still get a cold every now and then. So am I going to spend the extra money on organic veggies in the hopes of keeping from getting a headache no I'll pick up my bottle of equate pain killer and :rockon:

Obviously not everything natrual is good for you, but in alot of instances they are much better then the alternative.

I personally would much rather eat somthing with pure sugar cane in it vs something with high fructose corn syrup.

I think it all really boils down to being aware of what you are eating.
The reason I go with organic is not really because of the lack of pesticides or fertalizers. I go with organic because manufactured sweeteners, preservatives, hydrogenated oils, ect. are bad for you. I quite like the "All Natural" discription because it implies they are not adding extra crap for taste or longevity of a food item.

I guess the way I look at it (and I've never read the book) is, pay attention to food labels. I think everyone should be aware of serving sizes, trans fats, saturated fat, sugar and fiber in their food.

As far as veggies go, unless you're getting them from a farmer's market (or from a section in the grocery store where they put local produce), you're actually better off buying your veggies frozen if you want the top-nutrient value for them. And one of the best ways to cook them to KEEP the nutrient value? Microwave. I learned this in my Nutrition class this semester...

Regardless, I don't buy pre-made meals/food...so I know exactly what I'm putting into my body. And when I'm out having dinner somewhere? I just don't worry about it ;)

EDIT: Also, with the terms "organic" and "free range" and "cage free"...all of these are government-regulated labels. There are standards that must be met to obtain them...and they aren't as rigid as you'd imagine. Think your "cage free" birds are roaming around scratching for corn? They're in an itty-bitty pen with a ton of other birds, each with their minimum-alotted space to guarantee that a "cage free" label can be stuck on the package. Companies that use these labels don't nesecarily have your best interests at heart, or the animals'--it still comes back to the almighty dollar.

DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK! If you want a guide to eating healthy, there are some great ones out there. However, this isn't the first time he's "written" this book... his first copy of the book was banned because it was full of so much quack stuff that isn't good for anybody!

If you want to eat healthy, that's great. Justin Trudeau, however, doesn't want you to eat healthy, he wants you to read his alarmist book and tell all your friends to make him rich.

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Healthy cow do get the occassional infection, just like we do. They can come down with mastitis or any other ailment, but because they're considered 'organic' the vets are NOT allowed to treat them. No antibiotics PERIOD. I completely agree they do not antibiotics if they are healthy.

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Yes of course, if they're sick, they should be treated.. I didn't mean that they shouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Why not we do. Flu shot, booster shots, shots you get before you can go to school. If perfectly healthy people need antibiotics and vaccines why wouldn't animals could you imagine what two sick cows in a herd of 6000 could do to a beef farmers crop. Growth hormones, steroids these types of things I don't agree with.

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Vaccines are not the same as antibiotics.. it's widely thought that (human) doctors prescribe antibiotics far too often anyways.. the bacteria are building resistances to them and the antibiotics are having to be harsher to do the job.

Also many animals (especially pets..) are probably over vaccinated. Yearly shots is overkill I think.. just do a google search on vaccinosis and you'll come up with tons of reading.