crazy guy with a gabby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2bM...related&search=


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:eek: beautiful snake , i love gaboons.
i couldnt get over the amount of clutter in that room :colbert: , i wouldnt work in that room with hots no way

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Originally Posted by steveo

:eek: beautiful snake , i love gaboons.
i couldnt get over the amount of clutter in that room :colbert: , i wouldnt work in that room with hots no way

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I would have to agree. I wouldn't step one foot in that room, with all of the possible hiding places for an escapee.

Some pair on that guy?

Another one from the same guy, even more disturbing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQym...elated&search=

wow i just spent 20min checking out that guys video's! he is crazy! he really needs more room! but his snakes are fat bodied and beautiful! :D


gotta love that! :D for some reason the sound of hissing is music to my ears! i kno i wierd!

Okay I'll admit I know next to nothing about managing or handling hots but a few things came to mind...

1) Like it's been said in this thread, how smart or safe is it to have hots loose in a room full of places to hide like that?

2) I didn't notice any locks on any of the hot enclosures.

3) When he was feeding the gaboon in the one video unless I'm mistaken he left the enclosure open and then turned his back fussing around getting that rat. Isn't that awfully dangerous behaviour with a hungry hot that has the biggest fangs out there (or so I've read)?

4) Is it normal to mess about so much with those hooks? He seemed to be having a hard time actually controlling those snakes.

I Will never put my snake on that dirty ass floor. He needs to clean that room up..

Hes bound to get bitten one day. Walking a gaboon those 2 inch fangs are going into something one day

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

2) I didn't notice any locks on any of the hot enclosures.

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I saw a glass door lock on the floor during the gabby stroll video, so it looks like he has locks...but yeah, I wouldn't allow any snake to stroll loose in that room, let alone a hot. His comment about having hots in plastic tubs in worrying tho...dude, not a good idea.

Pretty snakes, tho. =)

When Rick and I get a house, we hope to set up a snake room that is snake proof so that we can let one snake out at a time to get some supervised slither exercise...and maybe set up a "snake jungle gym" tree kind of thing. Snakey play time!

Well, he seems to know what he's doing. Other than being in a dirty room, everything looked pretty good, IMO. He also says "Sorry bout the dirty floor, I hope to move to a new facility soon," so I'm hoping it's just messy because he's in the process of packing stuff up. :)

I only watched the one video in the original post...although I think I've seen another or two of his in the past. That is a gorgeous gabby....absolutely stunning...and it seems to me like he takes excellent care of his animals.


The only thing that bothered me was the apparent negligence in the way he keeps them contained...the horribly cluttered room...plastic tubs...dirty floor. Looks like some serious/severe/tragic accidents waiting to happen. I hope a day comes soon when he can get into a larger room that he can keep truly secure and clean. :rolleyes:

I've had many chats with this guy. Very nice man and has a real passion for what he does.
Watch the tour of the room, thats impressive!

Yeah dont get me wrong the animals he has do look in great condition , so he obviously takes good care of them :) , i just wouldnt keep them in a room like that if i had hots no way.
i hope he does move to larger premises soon too :)

I think the guy is really pretty good at handling his snakes. The deal is he knows each one very well, what their tempers are etc. The clutter is a bit of a concern for me but the rest is fine from what I saw.

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Originally Posted by cassandra

I saw a glass door lock on the floor during the gabby stroll video, so it looks like he has locks...but yeah, I wouldn't allow any snake to stroll loose in that room, let alone a hot. His comment about having hots in plastic tubs in worrying tho...dude, not a good idea.

Pretty snakes, tho. =)

When Rick and I get a house, we hope to set up a snake room that is snake proof so that we can let one snake out at a time to get some supervised slither exercise...and maybe set up a "snake jungle gym" tree kind of thing. Snakey play time!

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In the book that BW. Smith wrote, he explains how it can safely be done. It is done by building the regular rack. Once they add the heat, they run all wire through one hole and then make it as tight as possible and sealed. All vent holes in back are cover with some type of cloth. Then all tubs have locking lids. I know that isnt a regular BP rack but thats a hot rack. On the front, he has two doors that have 2 locks each. Also, each lid has a zip-tie on it so that while holding lid down, he can release the locked lid and then get away and take the lid off with the hook. Ill add more once I find my book.

i watched about all of his vids last night...

he seems to take really good care of his snakes, and seems to know them all very well..
so what if he isnt completely clean all the time...
he keeps some fat snakes.. and they dont seem too hateful.. minus that pissy puff..

but the guy looks like peter griffin IMO lol

id love to see his snake room..

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Originally Posted by phantommaggot

i watched about all of his vids last night...

he seems to take really good care of his snakes, and seems to know them all very well..
so what if he isnt completely clean all the time...
he keeps some fat snakes.. and they dont seem too hateful.. minus that pissy puff..

but the guy looks like peter griffin IMO lol

id love to see his snake room..

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So what if it isn't clean all the time? Say he gets one that escapes one night and is hiding. he steps foot in his small bathroom sized hot room that is cluttered with boxes and out comes the snake.

Some lovely snakes. Terrifying, but lovely.
He certainly seems to keep them well cared for and he is obviously a skilled handler. Can it really be wise to keep them in that environment? The video where he removes the angry puff adder to clean the cage instead of using dividing sections looks rather foolhardy to me.

His racks are pretty much exactly what I got for my BP that I'm getting once I actually get the enclosure back... I only bought one though, not several, and a friend bought a couple for his pines... I love them.

Those are some gorgeous snakes, but I'd be far too worried about all of the 'what ifs' that come along with owning hots... They're definately not for me no matter how beautiful they may be.

I've spoken with him quite a few times as I'm looking into owning a gabby in the near-but-not-so-near future. Every enclosure has very secure locks set up, you can see in some of the videos if he puts them back in afterwards, he locks up. He's been handling hots for well over 40 years and has only been bit once, in 1974. He knows his stuff better than anyone out there and I'd trust his enclosures, his set up, everything over someone with what appears to be a "safer" set-up. His way is actually one of the best, especially for housing hots.

Keep in mind he has 100+ hots in that room, if he made some extravagant enclosure for all of them, he'd need an entire house. His videos are great though and are extremely informative, great guy!

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

Another one from the same guy, even more disturbing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQym...elated&search=

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It seems like he's being foolish. Something tells me that if you're doing things right you shouldn't have to jerk your hand back to avoid getting tagged.

Those are both beautiful snakes though.

I subscribed to this guys channel on YouTube back when this thread started. I have now been watching his new videos as they come out and I can say I think despite a bit of a goofy personality he is a master keeper.

He has been working with hots for over two decades and is very well known and respected. It is easy to judge a room by its clutter but this man seems to really know what he is doing. He has my respect,

that's Al Coritz, he's an awsome guy and he makes those videos for herpetoculturists like us. So what if he let's his gabby go around the room a bit it's under his supervision! He's been doin this for about 30 years + and he's only been bitten once. The man knows what he's doing. He's not putting these out there for shock value, he's not pissin off the snake so he can make great videos he makes them to show us what he does. He's very "no nonsense" when it comes to venomous and he's definatley not stupid with them.

If anyone wants to calmly talk to Al I can let you know where he is a regular member. Yes Al is another good friend of mine.

Al, has some very rare snakes and man he gets some of them non eaters eating like champs.

Trust me he has cleaned up the clutter. He is a very very good keeper.

I would be leary of doing business with al though. It seems that he has a bit of a double standard in regaurds to who he'll do business with then tell you not to do the same and it seems he has a bit of a problem telling the truth when his "methods" of aquisition are questioned.

It's all on fauna on the BOI if anyone wants more info.

I, in fact, as well as several others, am still waiting on him to clear up a few details over there.

I'm sure he keeps his animals well, I'm just not so sure he's all that great of a guy.

All the videos are gone.
Someone has a link to them?

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Originally Posted by Bastian/Judith

All the videos are gone.
Someone has a link to them?

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He has a ton of videos, here is the URL of his YouTube channel,

http://www.youtube.com/user/viperkeeper

DUDE thats viperkeeper love that guy! Everyone should really check out his vids he has so amazing animals and is an amazing keeper.

I love this. I seen it a while ago though.

Not the best methods of handling snakes like that, but hey he's no ordinary human being ;) He seems to have a sixth sense when it comes to his snakes.

I am subscribed to him at least :oops: