So many questions: Pastel YB, YB, Lesser

I did some search but the result came up only either threads about Pastel or Thread about Yellow Bellied....

I saw prehistoricpets got Pastel Yellow Bellied(het Ivory) for sale and that Pastel YB looks awesome...or is it just me?
So if I want to make the Pastel YB that nice, which line of YB het Ivory I could breed with Pastel to get Pastel YB? I mean in theory they're both co-dom so I have a chance to get Pastel YB if I breed them together. But my question is is there a secret ingredient to make that nice Pastel YB(which line of YB, which line of Pastel, whatever)?

Can I breed different line of YB het Ivory and still get Ivory? I might get Amir line YB and that Pastel YB. What if that Pastel YB came from pastel with YB het Ivory of different bloodline then?

I might get 2 male Lesser in stead of the Pastel YB or Amir line YB. Is $2,000-$2,500 an average price for male Lesser? Will 06 male be able to breed next year? I know they won't breed if they're like 150g now, so what if they're around 300-350g then?

Sorry if I ask stupid question, but hey I'm still learning Ball Python. Plus English(and American) is not my first language ;) , so I might phrase word incorrectly...ME SPEAK NO INGERLISH!

One more question, actually I have loads more but that's enough for today....
If you can choose between Lesser from Ralph Davis and Lesser from Amir, which will you choose? Amir's cost $500 cheaper though. I asked for picture from both of them though, but none of them reply yet.

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Originally Posted by hgrub

I did some search but the result came up only either threads about Pastel or Thread about Yellow Bellied....

I saw prehistoricpets got Pastel Yellow Bellied(het Ivory) for sale and that Pastel YB looks awesome...or is it just me?
So if I want to make the Pastel YB that nice, which line of YB het Ivory I could breed with Pastel to get Pastel YB? I mean in theory they're both co-dom so I have a chance to get Pastel YB if I breed them together. But my question is is there a secret ingredient to make that nice Pastel YB(which line of YB, which line of Pastel, whatever)?

Any yellow belly to a pastel will give you a shot at a yellowbelly pastel

Can I breed different line of YB het Ivory and still get Ivory? I might get Amir line YB and that Pastel YB. What if that Pastel YB came from pastel with YB het Ivory of different bloodline then?
Yea I think so on this also
I might get 2 male Lesser in stead of the Pastel YB or Amir line YB. Is $2,000-$2,500 an average price for male Lesser? Will 06 male be able to breed next year? I know they won't breed if they're like 150g now, so what if they're around 300-350g then?
The gerural rule of thumb is 800 grams or bigger, now some breed sooner but you put the animal at risk when you breed them to early better safe than sorry . Remember marithon not sprint
Sorry if I ask stupid question, but hey I'm still learning Ball Python. Plus English(and American) is not my first language ;) , so I might phrase word incorrectly...ME SPEAK NO INGERLISH!
its all good you get your point accorss better than some english speaking people on here. Ask all the questions you want. the more knowledge you have the better a heper you make and the more enjoyment you get out of this hobby

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One more question, actually I have loads more but that's enough for today....
If you can choose between Lesser from Ralph Davis and Lesser from Amir, which will you choose? Amir's cost $500 cheaper though. I asked for picture from both of them though, but none of them reply yet.

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Hands down Ralph, Hes a great guy to deal with and remember price isn't everything. But if Amir (who i am not familiar with) offers a quality animal and the 500 bucks stands in the way of you getting it go with them. How ever call Ralph tell him if he's your first choice and see if he want work with you on the price.

thanks F_F
:)
So you mean any line of "proven line" het Ivory YB are competible to each other in order to make Ivory? For example Jared line YB can breed with Amir line YB to make Ivory(if I'm lucky)?

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thanks F_F
:)
So you mean any line of "proven line" het Ivory YB are competible to each other in order to make Ivory? For example Jared line YB can breed with Amir line YB to make Ivory(if I'm lucky)?

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Yea I think so I'm not dealing with YB this year but I think so maybe someone like Ed Clark that has done YB and even Ivorys can help more.

Sorry I can e of more help.

Yep, breed yellow belly X yellow belly get Ivory Ball. I have never heard of any line of yellow bellies being incompatible, I believe Amir started it all with yellow bellies. there are some people that started with imports and produced Ivory Balls, but would suggest starting out with a proven line. yellow bellies are a bargain, price wise.


If your thinking about the pastel yellow belly, its always better to start out with the best looking pastels if you want to produce the best pastel yellow bellies. :)

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thanks F_F
:)
So you mean any line of "proven line" het Ivory YB are competible to each other in order to make Ivory? For example Jared line YB can breed with Amir line YB to make Ivory(if I'm lucky)?

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Thanks Ed
:)

Amir Soleymani of Snakes at Sunset
...Originally aquired the first Yellow Belly in 1997 and proved them to be genetic in 1999
...Produced the first captive bred and hatched Ebony ball python

Don't want to start up a new thread and this Q is still about Yellow Bellied....

A friend of mine got male Bumblebee he wants to breed next year. He's still can't decide between breeding his bee with which morph.

What will you get if you breed bumblebee with Yellow Bellied? Please tell the % of each morph that will come from bee x YB.

What's the % of killer bee when you breed Bumble bee with Pastel. My guess is 25% correct?

If I breed Pastel YB with Pastel, will I have a chance to get Super Pastel YB? Is this morph exist? How does this morph look?

Thanks
T

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Originally Posted by hgrub

Don't want to start up a new thread and this Q is still about Yellow Bellied....

A friend of mine got male Bumblebee he wants to breed next year. He's still can't decide between breeding his bee with which morph.

What will you get if you breed bumblebee with Yellow Bellied? Please tell the % of each morph that will come from bee x YB.
Not real sure here, but you'd get YB, pastels, spiders, and YB pastels, YB spiders

What's the % of killer bee when you breed Bumble bee with Pastel. My guess is 25% correct? correct

If I breed Pastel YB with Pastel, will I have a chance to get Super Pastel YB? Is this morph exist? How does this morph look?

yea you have a chace of Yb super pastel might be slim but its there.

Thanks
T

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That's it. I'm flying off to the US to get me male YB and 05 female Pastel...oh wait, I can just e-mail and order them. :D

Thanks again F_F

Still need some help on the Super Pastel YB though. I look in VPI and NERDS books but there's no info about it. I mean if the Super Pastel YB is that nice then I might sell my left kidney and get one male Pastel YB and try to make Super Pastel YB next season :rockon:

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Originally Posted by hgrub

That's it. I'm flying off to the US to get me male YB and 05 female Pastel...oh wait, I can just e-mail and order them. :D

Thanks again F_F

Still need some help on the Super Pastel YB though. I look in VPI and NERDS books but there's no info about it. I mean if the Super Pastel YB is that nice then I might sell my left kidney and get one male Pastel YB and try to make Super Pastel YB next season :rockon:

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Good luck I've seen the YB pastels the super will be smoking

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Originally Posted by hgrub

Don't want to start up a new thread and this Q is still about Yellow Bellied....

A friend of mine got male Bumblebee he wants to breed next year. He's still can't decide between breeding his bee with which morph.

Breed it to as many different females as you can (up to 5) Even normal females will produce pastels, spiders and bumble bees.

What will you get if you breed bumblebee with Yellow Bellied? Please tell the % of each morph that will come from bee x YB.

You will have a 12.5% chance of producing every possible combo. Yellow belly bumble bees, bumble bees, yellow belly spiders, pastel yellow bellies, yellow bellies, spiders, pastels, normals. Even odds for all of these.

What's the % of killer bee when you breed Bumble bee with Pastel. My guess is 25% correct?

12.5% killer bee, 25% BB, 12.5% super pastel, 25% pastel, 12.5% spider, 12.5% normal.

If I breed Pastel YB with Pastel, will I have a chance to get Super Pastel YB? Is this morph exist? How does this morph look?

Yes, you can. I've never seen one though.

Thanks
T

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This is my little pastel YB gem


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...syb006copy.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/pasyb008.jpg

YB really cleans up the pastel in imo - i think the super would be fab!

H:sunny: T!!!


Hello and welcome T!!!

VERY Nice! I love that blushing. :sunny:

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Originally Posted by adizziedoll

This is my little pastel YB gem


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...syb006copy.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/pasyb008.jpg

YB really cleans up the pastel in imo - i think the super would be fab!

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I forgot how smokin that Pastel YB was! Is that the one you got at WP?

That pic just sealed it, Pastel YB is officially on my list :)

If I breed YB with pastel, then my odd to produce Pastel YB is like 25% right? Also...will the look of my pastel affect how baby Pastel YB will be? I mean dirty Pastel will make dirty Pastel YB, is that correct?

Wow I know I'm kinda late but welcome aboard, I also love yb's I'll post a pic of mine so you can see. T are ball pythons popular in thailand? Ball's rock man

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/IMG_0415.JPG


I haven't heard anything about bumblebee to yellowbelly yet.

Nice YB!!!

Thank you your pastel YB is smokin

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Originally Posted by Emilio

I haven't heard anything about bumblebee to yellowbelly yet.

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Marc Bailey produced a BumbleBee YB last year. It is pretty good looking, but not overly drastic. It is pretty subtle, but the colors were very crisp. The white sides of the Spider gene seemed to delete the abberent side pattern of a YB.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I forgot how smokin that Pastel YB was! Is that the one you got at WP?

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sure is - geez you guys got good memories.