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Handling can it cause stress to a bp
anytime i come in to the room with montana's tank she is up against the glass rubbing her nose. if i dont take her out she will continue to rub till i pay attention to her. i handle her every day all day she loves it but i have read some place that it causes stress. she is always out of her hides and basking when i am around and she only goes in her hide when i am not home and when i come home she pops her head out and there she is again against the side of the tank rubbing and climbing trying to get out.
can to much handling cause stress? she also like having her head and her chin scratched. only times i dont handle her is 48 hours after she feeds. when i am eating dinner and when im sleeping other then that she is out and about. she also follows me from one end of the tank to the other end when i am walking around my room and cleaning
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I hope that my ball python will do that, the reptile show is less than a month away. I can't wait.
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have fun i still have yet to go to a show i always seem to have work when they come around and i miss them hope you have fun but then again i know you will
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Yes, it can cause stress. If your snake is out roaming a lot, it's stressed. If she starts refusing food for you, she's likely stressed (unless you are over-feeding her). I don't handle any of mine that refuse a meal, and I would limit my handling to 30 minutes a day, not all day long.
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she has never refused any meals. she eats every thursday and she does hide. she comes out at nite and hides in the day unless, i am home and in my room with her tank and she has had all perfect sheds. and when i go to put her back in her tank she crawls right back up my arm. if you go to my gallery you can see a pic of her and her enclouser
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Ok, call me crazy here, but i disagree with some of this.
Yes, typically, excessive handling can cause stress....it can cause snakes to
go off their feed, and just freak out in general.
however.... There are some that tend to "like" attention.
My Loki is very similar to Monty. When I'm at home, Loki is out of his hide, roaming around, looking for an opening in the tank.
When I hold him, he crawls all over me, in my hair, and yes, just like Monty,
when i go to put him back in his tank, he acts like he doesn't want to be put down, and he attempts to climb back up my arm.
And, he did this even before he acquired his tankmate, Merlin.
Merlin is the typical ball in this situation....always in his hide, only comes out at night...
There are always exceptions to the rule, and there's nothing wrong with that.
So, my opinon....I say if Monty is healthy and shows no problems, handle her all you want. I take my boys for walks, for rides in the car, and I even take baths with them when they need to soak. People are always gonna tell you you're doing something wrong, but always think of the snake first, and remember....everything in moderation. :)
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I thought you weren't suppose to keep BPs together in the same tank?
But to do with this thread, that's awesome that he's like that, mine is always hiding, and when he does come out, i rarely get the chance to see him. I wish he'd do that for me :(
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Originally Posted by Mighty Monty
I thought you weren't suppose to keep BPs together in the same tank?
You're not.
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your not supposed to house 2 snakes together. But like snakiemom said there are exceptions and i know this for a fact. One of the girls i work with at the petco keeps a 7 foot burm in with her ball python in a 10' by 10' by 8' vivarium very beauituful setup too and both snakes feed outside of the cage and they dont bother with each other at all
and im glad to see that there are other bp's out there that like the attention. i just measured my monty last nite she is 2 foot 4 inches and 230 grams is this a good weight and length for a female that is only a year and 2 months old? she has no dehydration wrinkles like when i first got herand she seems to be picking up some more girth to her i am feeding her 2 adult adult mice a week every thusday. I love feeding day and so does monty when she sees the mouse box she goes into strike position and is ready.
thank you all for the feed back. and this is the best community i have ever joined.
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Not all snakes are the same, and saying they all are is rediculous, some like to be held, some like to hide, some like to sit in there water dish, some you have to poke to make sure they are still alive. Yours loves attention and seems to always wanna be with you, congrats, your snake thinks its a puppy. :D :D The tank is fine, he is eating for you, and not spitting the food back up, and he does have the places to go if he wants to. I say go ahead and play with him as you usally do and just keep to your normal schld you two have. Dont read too much into it unless he stops eating or spits it back up.
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Ther is never a good reason to house BPs together, unless you are breeding two healthy, prepared adults. And by No means, should a BP Ever be housed with another type of snake.. this is just an open invitation for cross-contamination, as well as the possibility of the larger snake eating the smaller one..
Not too long ago, one of our respected members had a tragedy wherein they were houseing two BPs together for breeding, and the female ate the male. How would you like it if something like that happened? Would you house a baby male bunny in with a female bunny and expect them not to breed too young? Would you house two territorial male fish in the same tank and not expect them to compete for the best territory, with one becoming the underdog..? Why invite tragedy onto your pets..
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Originally Posted by Monty
your not supposed to house 2 snakes together. But like snakiemom said there are exceptions and i know this for a fact. One of the girls i work with at the petco keeps a 7 foot burm in with her ball python in a 10' by 10' by 8' vivarium very beauituful setup too and both snakes feed outside of the cage and they dont bother with each other at all
This is asking to have a snake eaten. I can show you what happens when you put two snakes in the same cage. If I can find the post.
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how the hell would a snake eat another snake? wouldnt that kill both of them? i wanna see pics, thats just messed up. so what do you do when breeding them?
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Originally Posted by sw204me
how the hell would a snake eat another snake? wouldnt that kill both of them? i wanna see pics, thats just messed up.
No if I can find it someone posted pics of a redtail I think that ate a ball that was bigger than it and the regurged the ball. Real crazy.
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
No if I can find it someone posted pics of a redtail I think that ate a ball that was bigger than it and the regurged the ball. Real crazy.
:O :O :O :O
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w...t....f......?
so those pics show the dead eaten snake and the dead snake that ate it?
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Yes, and if you'll notice in the last picture the one that got eaten was larger than the one that ate it.
Is it worth that risk to house together?
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Here's a thread on housing more than one BP together that would be a good read for newer members:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=23890
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Originally Posted by Monty
i just measured my monty last nite she is 2 foot 4 inches and 230 grams is this a good weight and length for a female that is only a year and 2 months old?
Way to small!!! I have snakes that are a few months old that way that much...She should be more than double that weight...
You need to feed her rats...
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Originally Posted by Karma
Thank you that was then one I was looking for.
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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict
Way to small!!! I have snakes that are a few months old that way that much...She should be more than double that weight...
You need to feed her rats...
that migth be why she is hyper active, if she is hungry she might be out looking for food. I fed max two fuzzies in two weeks and was thinking i might be feeding him too small of food. and when it was getting close to time to feed him again he was all over his cage, not sitting still and constantly moving. and the board suggested i get a bigger mouse. So i went with a medium. after that he back to his normal "i like my hide and im never leaving" state...get to feed him again today when i get off work actually :D :D :D
might wanna try bigger food and see if she moves around less.
Also, where can you get a good scale for a decent price?
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What are her exact temps, in her cage.. and do they fluctuate? Is her cage in an area of the room that gets sunlight that could be Upping her temperatures?
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Originally Posted by Monty
i just measured my monty last nite she is 2 foot 4 inches and 230 grams is this a good weight and length for a female that is only a year and 2 months old? .
This is way too small?? My girl is about a year old (the person that helped me with her when I bought her didn't konw for sure when she was hatched) and when I weighted her about 2 weeks ago she was almost at 300 grams. She weighed 255 or so (I'm not sure just how accurate my scale it) when I got her, but she had been fed not too long before. What is a good weight for a year plus a little ball python then?
I don't know about her lenght...I couldn't ever get her to cooperate... ^_^
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i have seen those pics before. also i warned my friend about that but they seem happy i mean they both have there own basking spots, and never seem to cross paths. they were both corantined and checked for parasites and they are both 100% healthy so if it works for her then i guesss she could keep it like that. i warned her and she said she knows the risk but why change something thats been like thats for 4 years now. she is moving going to start builfing a whole room set up for the 2 of them with a sprinkler system, drainange and a kiddie pool with a filter. live plants and all. jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj. sorry my ferret poe jumped on the keyboard she says hi everyone. also my montanas cage is only half way done i still have alot of things i want to get for it more foliage and i need a humid hide i cant get my humidity to stay at a constant 60% i was thinking about getting an air stone and air pump like you use for the fish tanks with a valve to control the bubbling so it will stay at a constant 60% and then bump it up a bit to 70 when she starts to shed. do you think this would be a good idea or should i just use a humid hide??
and thank you all for you help and my monty, she thanks you too because she said yay now i get to be handled all the time sept for shedding and 48 hours after eating. and so you all know its a 40 gallon breeder tank that i got for free from my petco i work since the screen had a slight tear in it. they told me to rtv it which means return to vendor. which also means it goes in the trash well i said forget that im taking it home. so i did i fixed the screen and now all is dandy. and thank you for all the responses. and yea i guess.
the temps in my girls cage stay at a constand 92 on the basking 85 in the middle and 75 on the cool during the day. night it stays at a constand 85 on the basking 75 in the middle of the tank and 67 on the cool end. she is not near a window at all i make sure all my cages are set away from a window so i wont get extra heat.
lol rats i cant feed my montana rats shes only taking down adult mice and eats 2 a week. and shes not real big around but shes not dehydrated and she eats constantly when i took her to the vet she weighed in at 225 grams and the vet said she was only a gram and a half off normal weight.
so if there are anymore questions about my parenting or any more advice out there please share with me.
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Originally Posted by Monty
and thank you all for you help and my monty, she thanks you too because she said yay now i get to be handled all the time sept for shedding and 48 hours after eating.
Actually, Monty would thank you if you didn't handle her all the time. For a private shy creature as a ball python, I can assure you that she doesn't "enjoy" being handled all the time, she simply tolerates it. The enjoyment is yours, not hers.
This is not a puppy or a kitten, she doesn't desire the constant interaction, and while you are not experiencing any problems right now in her feeding, I suspect that you are going to run into some problems sooner rather than later (not feeding consistently for example).
Enjoy your snake, but respect her too.
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Originally Posted by Monty
lol rats i cant feed my montana rats shes only taking down adult mice and eats 2 a week. and shes not real big around but shes not dehydrated and she eats constantly when i took her to the vet she weighed in at 225 grams and the vet said she was only a gram and a half off normal weight.
Sure you can - rat pups are approximately the same size as adult mice - you just have to find a source for them! :)
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she wont eat anything with out hair i tried rat pups already. and she wont eat anything prekilled or frozen/thawed. she sticks her nose up to them and just ignores them ive tried to feed her frozen at least 6 times already and i've tried the rat pups at least 4 times.
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