Define "tame"

I recently picked up a 1.1 pair of bloods that were advertised as tame.
What would you consider tame?
Do you consider peeing on you, doing everything in it's power to bite you and try to cut off your circulation tame?

This is the "friendly one". The female.
Sorry but I would need to use a box of bandaids to even think of getting the male out for a picture. He is the side strike, open mouth, bite anything that moves type.

Now I wasn't expecting these to actually be tame when I got them becuase I knew the history behind this pair.

So how would you describe a blood as tame? Is it tame as in the sence of being tolerant to human interaction, or is it relative and you would describe it as being tame "for a blood"?

Personally, I consider an animal tame when you can reach in, pick it up, and handle it without the constant restraint to avoid a bite.

Just curious as to what the consensus is.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I consider an animal tame when you can reach in, pick it up, and handle it without the constant restraint to avoid a bite.

Just curious as to what the consensus is.

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I agree with you completely! I have 2 bloods (black & yellow) both are "tame" and are exactly how you described. Although my yellow blood is quite the talker, he has never offered to actually bite.

Btw- Thats one beautiful big girly you got there!

She looks just a bit ticked off, but that's a beautiful girl! ;) How old are the pair? I don't know much about bloods so I'm not sure about the sizings.

Only a few years old.


Ticked off is an understatement.:D

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Do you consider peeing on you, doing everything in it's power to bite you and try to cut off your circulation tame?

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No, must be tough love (rough in your case) :8:

Hopefully by working with them everyday you will be able to correct that behavior

Good luck with them that girl is a Hottie.

I would never call any snake "tame.." And if I saw an ad saying that someone's snakes were tame, I would not buy into that.. but it does imply that the snakes are not going to rip your hand off.. It could be stress, or it could have been deliberate deceit from the seller.. but if you knew the story behind the snakes and bought them, I am sure that you are prepared for them.
I seems to me, that restraining a snake can actually upset it more. My pastel gets really hissy and defensive if restrained, but if I just pick him up and allow him to get comfortable in my lap, he is not like that..
In an ad, if someone said Tame, I would ask them how they measure their standards.

What ever tame means it ain't what you got. If a snake is a bit snappy but not overly agressive I might consider it tame for a particular species.

For instance a corn that snaps at you on ocassion and hisses and will on ocassion bite is not what I call tame, I would call him typical of a wild caught adult.

However, if the same snake above were a black racer and it fell short of biting me 17 times per each time I handled it, then that would be tame.

For bloods though your pair are not "tame". I have seen many of them that are puppy dog tame as far as tempermant. Given that is the case an animal that bites the crap out of you is not tame.

In other words the seller hosed you over if that was what you wanted to hear, :rolleye2:

Tame in bloods means they snap but always miss. lol I've seen a few bloods that I could trust around children because of their overall calm nature but it seems they need a lot more handling to become tolerant than lets say a redtail boa.

Not restraining means a side strike bite.

Walk by the cage and the male especially will try to tag you.

Forget about just reaching in.

I knew they were not tame because the person I got them from is not exactly honest in their ads. I also knew they were not as old as he advertised because I knew the person who originally sold him these as babies.

I was just curious as to what people considered tame.
Sort of along the same lines as "great feeding response" which really means, put your hand in the cage and you will lose it.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I was just curious as to what people considered tame.
Sort of along the same lines as "great feeding response" which really means, put your hand in the cage and you will lose it.

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Tame? Usually means w/c to me.... Come on who really tames there animals before they sell them? A cb animal is not "Tame" Either really it just has to do with the history so to speak of the animal..

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Originally Posted by DJ_86

Come on who really tames there animals before they sell them?

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I do and I try to get them on f/t before they go out.
If I say an animal is tame, it will not try to rip you apart when you reach in to get it (unlike these guys:D ).

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I knew they were not tame because the person I got them from is not exactly honest in their ads. I also knew they were not as old as he advertised because I knew the person who originally sold him these as babies.

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Ouch! I would call the seller on it, if for no other reason other than to let him know he is a bad liar. :(

It was rather amusing because I knew the male was extremely irritable before I met with seller so I asked him to get it out of the bag for me so I could see him.

He didn't want to do that and you could see his hands shaking.:D

Quite funny really. He expected me to just pick them up in the bags, sight unseen and believe his description of them.

Glad someone didn't have these shipped to them expecting tame animals.
I knew what I was getting into and messed with him a bit about it.:D

Tame....OK............Take him out of the bag then.........LOL.

Oh mean!! I love it. "Sure, mind holding him just a second? I want to measure him... just a second.. where's that silly tape measure?" Poor guy.. heehee.
Wolfy

LMAO I wondered about the guy that sold me my snake because he straight off asked me if I wanted to grab it from the tank... I wondered if he asked me to do it because he wasn't fond of the snake or something... in hind sight I think he was testing me...

She is an absolutely gorgeous snake!... and I'm so glad you called that seller on his bluff! too funny!

How bad are blood python bites? Looks like it would be brutal.

I love a snake with a bad attitude

My Roana is totally tame. And by tame, I mean that I can reach into her tub and pick her up with no complaints, handle her freely with no threat of biting or hissing, pass her from hand to hand, let other people hold her, stroke her chin, touch her on the top of the head, etc. She has -never- flinched, recoiled, or offered the slightest sign of stress...she watches alertly (I loooove their eyes) and tongue-flicks like crazy...very engaged and interested, not defensive at all.

She also is a phenomenal eater...as soon as the rats enter the room, she's cruising the front of the tub and will grab them as soon as they drop. She is an absolute treasure, and I consider myself incredibly lucky to have her. I got her at the Tulsa show in October, and she had the same great personality then that she does now...I can't take credit for any taming done on my part. Every time I read a thread about how bloods can be so difficult I keep thanking whatever fates that she's turned out to be such a joy to keep.

I consider tame to be if you can free handle without being bitten.. I will still consider a snake that hisses to be 'tame'. Both of my bloods are talkers, but have not offered to bite since they were babies.

I agree with shelby. :D There are some tame bloods. Just like mine. I can handle them without ever getting any signs of aggresion. They are captive bred. But like always, there are a few that even if they are captive bred, they will be nippy or show aggresion. They all have their own personality. So that means that they lied to you!:D

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Originally Posted by Shelby

I consider tame to be if you can free handle without being bitten.. I will still consider a snake that hisses to be 'tame'. Both of my bloods are talkers, but have not offered to bite since they were babies.

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I concur.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I recently picked up a 1.1 pair of bloods that were advertised as tame. What would you consider tame? Do you consider peeing on you, doing everything in it's power to bite you and try to cut off your circulation tame? This is the "friendly one". The female. Sorry but I would need to use a box of bandaids to even think of getting the male out for a picture. He is the side strike, open mouth, bite anything that moves type...

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SPJ i see that you haven't posted anything since last month, but i searched the archives here for "tame" and your post had me ROTFLMAO! I also see that you later posted a photo of a big Borneo resting its head in the palm of your hand. I'll take it that it's not one of ones you describe above? Whatever happened to the pair described above?

If it's any consolation, most Blood owners do NOT have tame specimens. Their handling consists merely of quickly picking it up at the mid section to change the newspaper and then replacing it back in its drawer.

Congrats on the tame Borneo by the way. And nice pic too!

I think the word "tame" is kinda loosly used with reptiles.
Tamed - (of an animal) Not dangerous or frightened of people; domesticated.
A reptile (in my eyes) cannot be "tamed". You might have one that is more social than others or one that might put up with a little more than others, but as far as the def. of tamed,,, I dont think reptiles can be.
Jason

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Originally Posted by JoeNapoli

SPJ i see that you haven't posted anything since last month, but i searched the archives here for "tame" and your post had me ROTFLMAO! I also see that you later posted a photo of a big Borneo resting its head in the palm of your hand. I'll take it that it's not one of ones you describe above? Whatever happened to the pair described above?

If it's any consolation, most Blood owners do NOT have tame specimens. Their handling consists merely of quickly picking it up at the mid section to change the newspaper and then replacing it back in its drawer.

Congrats on the tame Borneo by the way. And nice pic too!

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Might want to check dates, this thread is 6 years old.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

I recently picked up a 1.1 pair of bloods that were advertised as tame.
What would you consider tame?
Do you consider peeing on you, doing everything in it's power to bite you and try to cut off your circulation tame?

This is the "friendly one". The female.
Sorry but I would need to use a box of bandaids to even think of getting the male out for a picture. He is the side strike, open mouth, bite anything that moves type.

Now I wasn't expecting these to actually be tame when I got them becuase I knew the history behind this pair.

So how would you describe a blood as tame? Is it tame as in the sence of being tolerant to human interaction, or is it relative and you would describe it as being tame "for a blood"?

Personally, I consider an animal tame when you can reach in, pick it up, and handle it without the constant restraint to avoid a bite.

Just curious as to what the consensus is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCN0471.jpg

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ROTFLMAO, and 6 years old gotta another chuckle..
Spooky has it correct too.. Snakes and reptiles are not tame..They tolerate us or they don't in some cases..

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Might want to check dates, this thread is 6 years old.

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Dates were checked before message was posted. My statement "SPJ i see that you haven't posted anything since last month" is correct, he hasn't posted anything since 04-22-2013. That the original post was 03-24-2007 just makes my question "Whatever happened to the pair described above?" even more appropriate. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by JoeNapoli

Dates were checked before message was posted. My statement "SPJ i see that you haven't posted anything since last month" is correct, he hasn't posted anything since 04-22-2013. That the original post was 03-24-2007 just makes my question "Whatever happened to the pair described above?" even more appropriate. Thank you.

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Take a hint. Both sides.

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Originally Posted by JoeNapoli

Dates were checked before message was posted. My statement "SPJ i see that you haven't posted anything since last month" is correct, he hasn't posted anything since 04-22-2013. That the original post was 03-24-2007 just makes my question "Whatever happened to the pair described above?" even more appropriate. Thank you.

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That's what has me confused, you indicated you knew it was an older thread and as you said he logged on less than a month ago (which is the first thing I check with older threads).

I know thread necromancy is usually frowned upon but the guy is still active, I don't get the problem here :confusd:

Maybe a PM would have worked better?

Old thread but great topic. I agree with the above posters, a blood doesn't have to be "tame" to be totally workable and tractable. Technique goes a long way with these animals. As far as the seller goes he might have been intentionally vague with his description of the animals attitude and that was missleading. I bet if we get an update the OP either sold the animals or has worked with them long enough to learn what makes them tick. That's what makes the species so fun to work with!

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Originally Posted by hud556

Old thread but great topic....

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yeah, underrated too... .. .:)

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