Pet food recall...!

I found this on MSN.com.. it is very frightening..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17650075/

Wow... I really feel for the owners of the pets that passed away due to this.

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

I found this on MSN.com.. it is very frightening..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17650075/

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oh man that stinks! i would be very upset.....i feel for those people......you put trust in your dog or cat food that it won't kill your animal, and look at this! WOW

Wow...That article is pretty shocking!! :eek: Especially since Eukanuba & Iams are pretty decent brands! I really feel for the effected owners! I know I'd be heartbroken if that happened to me!

But am I reading this article correctly, the only effected food is wet “cuts and gravy” style food??

My sister feeds her pup Eukanuba puppy food. I gave her the number that was listed for concerned consumers to call. Just in case.

When we get recalls at work they tell us to look at the specfic code date"The recalled products bear the code dates of 6339 through 7073 followed by the plant code 4197, P&G said" if she has these on her pet food i would not use it personaly.

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

Wow...That article is pretty shocking!! :eek: Especially since Eukanuba & Iams are pretty decent brands! I really feel for the effected owners! I know I'd be heartbroken if that happened to me!

But am I reading this article correctly, the only effected food is wet “cuts and gravy” style food??

My sister feeds her pup Eukanuba puppy food. I gave her the number that was listed for concerned consumers to call. Just in case.

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I saw this in the paper. Luckily, I feed my dog this special, flavorless, colorless food because she has some food allergies. :)

And wheat gluten is a good source of food allergies, yay. Why I buy Wellness :)

Purina Beneful also had a recall earlier(it's crap regardless, but still). Dogs were being poisoned by the mold(mycotoxins, aflatoxins, etc) on the corn in the food.

For those of you who feed canned, double check that list! The cans I have were not on the list two days ago but are on there now- thank GOD I hadn't used them yet.

I always freak out when I first hear about pet food recalls but then I remember I don't feed crap food. ;)

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

Purina Beneful also had a recall earlier(it's crap regardless, but still). Dogs were being poisoned by the mold(mycotoxins, aflatoxins, etc) on the corn in the food.

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I couldn't imagine anyone ever actually buying that stuff.
Then again, most people don't pay attention to what they feed their animals.

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Originally Posted by joyful girl

I always freak out when I first hear about pet food recalls but then I remember I don't feed crap food. ;)

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I didn't think Eukanuba was actually considered "crap food."

well you're right it's not horrible there are far worse brands out there

Iams is pretty bad though

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Originally Posted by joyful girl

I always freak out when I first hear about pet food recalls but then I remember I don't feed crap food. ;)

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Ya know what, I take offense to that. I have one cat who is older and while she eats mostly dry food, she does get canned on rare occasions. In fact, I am insulted enough to stop my post now b/c I know I will say things I regret later.

I'm sorry if I offended you
I'm not talking about the fact that it's canned food
Canned food can be good for some animals because of the water content

It's the brands that seem to keep having problems

here is some info I take into a count when buying food for my cats and ferrets (since they are both obligated carnivors)

from www.catinfo.org

Learn How To Read a Pet Food Ingredient Label

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The words “natural” or “premium” or "veterinarian recommended" are not necessarily indicative of high quality.

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Contrary to what is often believed, many, if not all, of the so-called prescription diets sold in veterinary hospitals are not formulated for optimal health of a carnivore. Many of these products contain corn, wheat, and soy which have no logical place in your cat's diet. Many of them also contain by-products as the main - and often only - source of protein. It is also important to note that Hill’s – the maker of Science Diet – continues to use extremely questionable preservatives such as BHA, BHT and ethoxyquin in many of their products. Other companies have abandoned the practice of using these chemicals as preservatives – opting for more natural and safer methods. Unfortunately, many veterinarians are very poorly educated in the area of nutrition. Too often their recommendations are taken from the pet food industry which does not always have your cat’s best interest in mind when formulating their products. In most instances, you will be paying far more money than you should be for the low quality ingredients that many of these prescription products contain.

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Look for a muscle meat (preferably, not an organ meat like liver) as the first ingredient. A muscle meat will be listed as “chicken,” or “turkey,” etc. not “chicken by-products” or “chicken by-product meal,” or “chicken broth” or "liver". “Chicken meal” is technically a muscle meat but the term “meal” denotes that it has been rendered (cooked for a long time at very high temperatures) and is lower quality than meat that has not been as heavily processed. A "meal" product is more commonly found in dry foods. By-products can include feet, intestines, feathers, egg shells, etc. and are much less nutritious than meat. See here for more on by-products.



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Grains should be absent or, at least, only minimally present in the diet. This means if they are present, they should not be among the first three ingredients. Corn, wheat and soy are thought to be common allergens (as is yeast) and also cause a rapid rise in blood sugar when compared to other grains such as rice, oats or barley so it is important to choose a food that does not contain corn, wheat, soy, or yeast.

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Originally Posted by joyful girl

I always freak out when I first hear about pet food recalls but then I remember I don't feed crap food. ;)

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Sorry but the foods listed are not all crap foods. Don't be too sure of yourself. Even the best foods can have something happen. Even in the foods you eat. Or don't you remember the spinach being recalled last month?

Pretty shocked as well to see both what I feed my cat and dogs on there. Pretty scary! We don't have the bags that the food came in since we keep their foods in tins, so we just threw away all of their food we had.

ok, I have read a lot of stuff about dog and cat food (before this whole recall mess happened) and so I know what is good, mediocre, and terrible.I want to know what you all feed your dogs and cats? I have two dogs and one cat. The big dog eats anything. the little dog is soooo picky sometimes i feed the bugger with a spoon to eat. I am probably just making him more spoiled but I worry that he doesn't eat enough.

I have fed th dogs eukanuba, wellness (they hated that), flint river ranch (little guy wouldnt touch it), california natural (no go), and solid gold (nope).

I had some success with eagle pak but right now they are eatng purina dog chow...aka....trash. SIgh, and my little dog LOVES it.....why does he like this crappy filler????anyone know why?

And if I had time, money, and patience, I WOULD cook for my dog or setup a raw diet but seriously, who does that AND has a job AND has a life??????

I feed Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul to my cats and the Kitten version to my ferrets.

I wish I had a dog. :(

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Originally Posted by Wolfsnaps

And if I had time, money, and patience, I WOULD cook for my dog or setup a raw diet but seriously, who does that AND has a job AND has a life??????

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My sister adopted a German Shepherd from a woman who couldn't keep her any longer. This woman would boil a whole chicken every day...bone it...and give the dog the entire chicken!! (Sans bones, of course) Every single day! YUCK!

The dog is now under veterinary care and on a strict, healthy diet. Poor thing!

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Originally Posted by Wolfsnaps

ok, I have read a lot of stuff about dog and cat food (before this whole recall mess happened) and so I know what is good, mediocre, and terrible.I want to know what you all feed your dogs and cats? I have two dogs and one cat. The big dog eats anything. the little dog is soooo picky sometimes i feed the bugger with a spoon to eat. I am probably just making him more spoiled but I worry that he doesn't eat enough.

I have fed th dogs eukanuba, wellness (they hated that), flint river ranch (little guy wouldnt touch it), california natural (no go), and solid gold (nope).

I had some success with eagle pak but right now they are eatng purina dog chow...aka....trash. SIgh, and my little dog LOVES it.....why does he like this crappy filler????anyone know why?

And if I had time, money, and patience, I WOULD cook for my dog or setup a raw diet but seriously, who does that AND has a job AND has a life??????

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Perhaps your dog does like the higher end food, but they just aren't eating as much of it. That's the point... less fillers, more real food.

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Perhaps your dog does like the higher end food, but they just aren't eating as much of it. That's the point... less fillers, more real food.

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Another thought, higher end food also produces less waste to clean up. Fillers tend to pretty much pass thru as extra waste. Less pooper scoopin'!!:D

I switched my cats to Nutro and they began to poo less, and they love it. They will actually wake me up in the morning by crawling over me and rubbing all over me, so I'll feed them. :D

I think I saw someone said that Nutro was on the list. I feed only dry Nutro to my cats. My grandmother has been feeding them another brand of wet food every other day. I'm not sure what brand it is, so I went upstairs and told her not to feed my cats wet food.

Nope, he doesn't even touch the higher end stuff. I watch him and monitor what he eats. He doesn't eat any of it. It is annoying spending that money and having the big dogs wolf it all down.

I was just watching the news and it said there was RAT POISON in the food! WHAT?!?!?! how...could this happen! :(:(:(

the reason pets will eat the crap food is the same reason your kids will eat crap-dinner instead of a healthier lunch... it tastes good. junk food always does.

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Originally Posted by Wolfsnaps

Nope, he doesn't even touch the higher end stuff. I watch him and monitor what he eats. He doesn't eat any of it. It is annoying spending that money and having the big dogs wolf it all down.

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He may like it, but it's not good for him.

What it comes down to is that a healthy dog who is hungry enough will not refuse food. However, you can train them to refuse food by teaching them that if they hold out long enough, they'll get something better. The way to correct that behavior is to withold treats, snacks, and coaxing. Put the food down for 15 minutes in the morning, if he doesn't eat it, take it away until the evening. Repeat until he caves. It may take a day or two, but he will get hungry enough eventually. Unless of course he has you well trained, and you cave. Hand-feeding can be used as a training technique, but should never be done with picky, fussy eaters. It just makes encourages the behavior.

I meal feed and I have no picky eaters.

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Originally Posted by jeffnme

I was just watching the news and it said there was RAT POISON in the food! WHAT?!?!?! how...could this happen! :(:(:(

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No rat poison...it was a protein source from a different supplier. The problem was discovered when food containing that protein source was used in a monitored feeding trial and several cats in the trial developed kidney failure.

Rat poison causes coagulopathy, not kidney failure, and you'd need a huge volume to get that much contamination.

The problem was isolated to all food produced at a specific plant in KS. This plant produces the cutlets & gravy and pouched wet foods, and many different pet food companies hire this plant to utilize their specialized machinery to get that texture on their products. All dry products and most regular canned products are not produced at that plant, and so are not affected.

We've seen at least one suspected case at the ER where I work, and it is a tremendously widespread problem, due to the large number of companies involved and their national distribution.

Currently my three are on 'Chicken Soup for the Kitten Lovers Soul'

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Originally Posted by slartibartfast

No rat poison...it was a protein source from a different supplier. The problem was discovered when food containing that protein source was used in a monitored feeding trial and several cats in the trial developed kidney failure.

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well they had a news conference and they also said it was rat poison. :confused:

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Originally Posted by jeffnme

well they had a news conference and they also said it was rat poison. :confused:

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Yikes, my bad. You are absolutely correct.

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/p...Y&pageId=3.2.1

This is such a sad situation; I saw some person on TV whose animals already died from this whole thing.. let me say, if it was proven that the food I was feeding, killed my cat, I would go lawsuit-happy on that company. :(

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

This is such a sad situation; I saw some person on TV whose animals already died from this whole thing.. let me say, if it was proven that the food I was feeding, killed my cat, I would go lawsuit-happy on that company. :(

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I would too! I have lost pets before (due to other reasons) and I was devastated then! I could hardly imagine losing one like this! :(