What would you do?

I am finally moving out at the end of this month, so that means i can finally purchase my snakes. A real good friend of mine breeds snakes and has a real large variety of different morphs for me to choose from, but im have a bit of trouble picking.

Here are my current choices: Yellow belly male, Cinny male, a female pastel, or a pair of het ghosts. If i go with anything other than the pair het for ghost, ill be picking up 1 or 2 normal females.

I am kind of leaning towards the female pastel so i can get a spider next year and hopefuly be making bumble bee's.(i really like bumble bee's).

The reason i didnt get a spider this year is because his male bumble bee is not really interested in females this year so no spiders being produced, next year he will be mine, oh yes he will be mine. :D

But this thread isnt all about me, if you were in my position, what would you do?

Work with what interests you as far as morphs, you won't have any fun cleaning and feeding a snake you're not truly passionate about.

BTW, noticed your avatar looks a lot like Mike Wilbank's BlackEL.
http://www.constrictors.com/images/B...cistic1374.jpg
You might want to get permission before you use his pictures for your own purposes.;)

well like i said, i've pretty much made up my mind. Im just wondering what you would do. I personally like all the morphs ive listed, i just dont have the money for all of them.

Well....the morph that got it all started for me were super pastels, not sure why exactly but I love them, love the looks of them, and combo potential is huge....so after some advice on which possibly make the best looking supers/combos I picked up a male VPI pastel and a female lemon pastel.


My next favorite morphs were Pewters, Super Cinnies, Pastel ghosts, and ghosts. I've already picked up my cinny male (just waiting for weather to ship) and I'm in the process of getting a 1.2 of 100% het hypo (ghost).

Later this year I do want to pickup a 1.2 100% Het Albinos (Gotta love binos), and either a Yellowbelly male of female, or both and actually my goal is not to make ivories but again for the combos that they make (YB pastels, YB ghosts)

My loooong term goal is to produce true ghosts (Hypo Axanthics) So sometime later in the year I would love to pick up an axanthic male and 100% het axanthic female.

As far as normals females, I started out with my two ball pythons that were first considered "pets" but I wanted the females vs. males as pets because I knew down the road I would want to breed.

So far this year I have also picked up a 1.1 of really high blushing normals, that I am hoping is inheritable so I could possibly produce something neat from the pair, or blushing pastels, cinnies, etc... I'm looking forward to picking up a few other nice CH babies to raise up and play around with.

So what I'm doing is working within my reasonable price ranges, so as I produce things you can trade or sell a few male animals here and there to reinvest in other morphs that weren't within the budget in the beginning. But for the most part I'm going to be keeping what I produce.

FYI, I still think you should take down your avatar, use your own pictures buddy, or give credit where its due.

-Jason

it sounds like you are ready to rock and roll. right now i would like to stay smaller, but we all know how that works. I dont even have a snake yet and im already thinking about what to do in 3 years when hopfully produce eggs.

and about the avatar, i just found a picture on google images and cropped it down to fit my avatar. Its not like im saying the snake is mine or using it to make money. This isnt a legal battle.

I would start with the female pastel. So many great morph combos start with the pastel and a female pastel is the foundation of some great breeding projects. Also you should get a female first because it is gonna take time to raise up a female to breeding size and males mature faster. This way next year you get that spider or whatever else you may like by then and you are on the way to making designer morphs! :rockon:

Can't you ask your friend to make a nice price for the pastel female and cinny male? That would be great to make some pewter pastels!!

a female pastel would be a great start! get and care for as many females as you can. this gives you a couple of years to decide on which male or morph you want to work with. during this time you'll gain alot of expierence caring for balls. you can never have enough females...



vaughn

Go for what blows your mind when you see it........ I started with a pastel which I really like alot, but my first love was albinos and it was my second purchase.;)

I agree with the people suggesting to go with what draws you, first and foremost you should adore what you see in that tub. Don't go for what everyone else tells you to get.

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

well like i said, i've pretty much made up my mind. Im just wondering what you would do. I personally like all the morphs ive listed, i just dont have the money for all of them.

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Read #13 of the basics rules

Females, grow them up, and get something later to pair her up with.

That seems to be the general consensus.

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Originally Posted by Chase13

Read #13 of the basics rules

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13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material.

at what point in time did i infringe on a copyright, post a hotlink from another website or post anything. the picture was taken off of google images and saved to my computer and then cropped down with mspaint to fit an avatar format. that is all i have to say about it and i wont make another post about this. If i need to take it down an admin will send it to me in a pm, not derail this thread.

I've decided to go with a female pastel or two and a normal female or 2 lol. Next year i will pick out the male to start with, which im already leaning pretty hard towards a spider, green eyes get me every time hehe. I also like the combinations a yellow belly produce, so i might pick up a yellow belly male also. Once i get my tax returns back ill be building my baby/medium size rack so i will be ready to go!

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material.

at what point in time did i infringe on a copyright, post a hotlink from another website or post anything. the picture was taken off of google images and saved to my computer and then cropped down with mspaint to fit an avatar format. that is all i have to say about it and i wont make another post about this. If i need to take it down an admin will send it to me in a pm, not derail this thread.

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I don't mean to derail this thread, I only meant to show you why people were asking if you got permission to use that picture as your avatar. You don't have to explain HOW you got it as your avatar, that is besides the point. That is not your picture. I've seen those leucy ball pics too and yes they are amazing but it is someone elses picture and he may not want his picture as your avatar.

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

at what point in time did i infringe on a copyright

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http://www.bobclark.com/

Design © 2003, GenZero. - Content © 2003 Bob Clark Captive Bred Reptiles, Inc. Unless Stated Otherwise

I was not meaning to be rude at all and I apologize if I came off that way. I was only meaning to make sure you understood the rules on copyrighted material.


As for your question. Follow your passion with snakes. If you want to make bumble bees because you like them, then thats what you should make. Don't just follow what the market is asking for, do what makes you happy. I too would like to make bumble bees in the future. I plan on getting a female spider for my pastel in july. Good luck. :D

wow what a heated thread, lets just talk about snakes:snake:

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

wow what a heated thread, lets just talk about snakes:snake:

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Doesn't need to be heated though. People need to just take responsibility and follow the rules of the forums.

I've emailed Bob Clark about the picture, If he says that he does not want me to use his picture, then i will not. The only other way im going to be taking it down is if an admin of these forums tells me to take it down before Bob gets back with me.


Now if you could please stop derailing this thread. Its most likely dead now anyways, who wants to sit and read a completely random de-railed thread.

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

I've emailed Bob Clark about the picture, If he says that he does not want me to use his picture, then i will not.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

The only other way im going to be taking it down is if an admin of these forums tells me to take it down before Bob gets back with me.

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This would be the point of rules. An admin wrote in the rules not to use copyrighted material without giving credit. You did not... rule broken. You shouldn't sit and wait for an admin to take the time to force you to take off your avatar IMO. That's why they made the rules.

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Originally Posted by duffmanrc

Now if you could please stop derailing this thread. Its most likely dead now anyways, who wants to sit and read a completely random de-railed thread.

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You've gotten our answers and a good amount of feedback. And people don't have to read this entire thread to figure out what your asking, just the first post. If they have feedback, they will post. And I will have to disagree with this thread being "random"

i am done discussing this in this thread, an admin will contact me if they have a problem with it. that is all i have to say about it.

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Originally Posted by Chase13

People need to just take responsibility and follow the rules of the forums.

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Who drew and animated your avatar?